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05-26-2012, 02:08 AM
#47
FlyingIrishMan
A7X
Originally posted by ic0de
You've won nothing. I have no intentions on making myself look like an idiot. I have been here for four years. You are just another dimwitted f*** who can't see that he is wrong. Have a good day in that sh*thole you call a country. You clearly have a disability comprehending what you have read. I clearly stated that I am in college. I will be living a much more successful life here in America. Everyone wants to visit America.
Four years yet nobody knows who the fuck you are. Not to mention the numourous times you've been neg repped and called an idiot.
No intentions? Too late for that now. And again, with the insults towards a nation, very nice.
I read it. I just don't believe you, I find it impossible someone as stupid as you could be in college, unless its like a community college.
And a much more successful life? I doubt it. You're going nowhere in life being as narrow minded and racist as you are.
05-26-2012, 02:20 AM
#48
Saucy-_-
Red Wing's For Life!!!
Originally posted by FlyingIrishMan
Just because someone is on an internet forum does not mean they should start writing like shit. It will not help anyone and will only rub off into every day life.
I myself do speak properly with the correct grammar all the time.
Oh wow, there you go again with the drunken irish jokes. Come up with something original. As I said earlier, I don't drink.
I said America was built on Immigrants from the EU, not the Irish, even though a large chunk of the immigrants were Irish.
I've already won this argument. I've not just made stupid comments about how Irish people were drunks.
Please kid, just stop. You're making yourself look like more of an idiot each post you make.
I myself do speak properly with the correct grammar all the time.
Oh wow, there you go again with the drunken irish jokes. Come up with something original. As I said earlier, I don't drink.
I said America was built on Immigrants from the EU, not the Irish, even though a large chunk of the immigrants were Irish.
I've already won this argument. I've not just made stupid comments about how Irish people were drunks.
Please kid, just stop. You're making yourself look like more of an idiot each post you make.
All that matters is were the worlds super power! and thats why were better!
HERES THE FACTS:
1) Are economy is only really beat by china and a few others!
2) Create original consumer brands that are household names everywhere in the world (including in America), such as Coca-Cola, Nike, McDonalds, Citigroup, Xerox, Microsoft, or Google. Europe and Japan have created a few brands in a few select industries, but China currently has none. Observing how many American brand logos have populated billboards and sporting events in developing nations over just the last 15 years, one might argue that US dominance has even increased by this measure.
3) Have a military capable of waging wars anywhere in the globe (even if it does not actually wage any). Part of the opposition that anti-Americans have to the US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is the envy arising from the US being You must login or register to view this content.. No other country currently is even near having the ability to project military power with such force and range. Mere nuclear weapons are no substitute for this. The inability of the rest of the world to do anything to halt genocide in Darfur is evidence of how such problems can only get addressed if and when America addresses them.
4) Have major universities that are household names, that many of the worlds top students aspire to attend. 17 of the world's top 20 universities are in the US. Until top students in Europe, India, and even the US are filling out an application for a Chinese university alongside those of Harvard, Stanford, MIT, or Cambridge, China is not going to match the US in the knowledge economy. This also represents the obstacles China has to overcome to successfully conduct impactful scientific research.
5) Attract the best and brightest to immigrate into China, where they can expect to live a good life in Chinese society. The US effectively receives a subsidy of $100 to $200 billion a year, as people educated at the expense of another nation immigrate here and promptly participate in the workforce. As smart as people within China are, unless they can attract non-Chinese talent that is otherwise going to the US, and even talented Americans, they will not have the same You must login or register to view this content. The small matter of people not wanting to move into a country that is not a democracy also has to be resolved.
6) Become the nation that produces the new inventions and corporations that are adopted by the mass market into their daily lives. From the telephone and airplane over a century ago, America has been the engine of almost all technological progress. Despite the fears of innovation going overseas, the big new technologies and influential applications continue to emerge from companies headquartered in the United States. Just in the last two years, Google emerged as the next super-lucrative company (before eBay and Yahoo slightly earlier), and the American-dominated 'blogosphere' emerged as a powerful force of information and media.
7) Be the leader in You must login or register to view this content.. China's film industry greatly lags India's, let alone America's. We hear about piracy of American music and films in China, which tells us exactly what the world order is. When American teenagers are actively pirating music and movies made in China, only then will the US have been surpassed in this area. Take a moment to think how distant this scenario is from current reality.
Be the nation that engineers many of the greatest moments of human accomplishment. The USSR was ahead of the US in the space race at first, until President Kennedy decided in 1961 to put a man on the moon by 1969. While this mission initially seemed to be unnecessary and expensive, the optimism and pride brought to anti-Communist people worldwide was so inspirational that it accelerated many other forms of technological progress and brought economic growth to free-market countries. This You must login or register to view this content., as the pessimism necessary for socialism to exist became harder to enforce. People from many nations still feel pride from humanity having set foot on the Moon, something which America made possible. China currently has plans to put a man on the moon by 2024. While being only the second country to achieve this would certainly be prestigious, it would still be 55 years after the United States achieved the same thing. That is not quite the trajectory it would take to approach the superpowerdom of the US by 2030. If China puts a man on Mars before the US, I may change my opinion on this point, but the odds of that happening are not high.
9) Be the nation expected to thanklessly use its own resources to solve many of the world's problems. If the US donates $15 billion in aid to Africa, the first reaction from critics is that the US did not donate enough. On the other hand, few even consider asking China to donate aid to Africa. After the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, the fashionable question was why the US did not donate even more and sooner, rather than why China did not donate more, despite being geographically much closer. Ask yourself this - if an asteroid were on a collision course with the Earth, which country's technology would the world depend on to detect it, and then destroy or divert it? Until China is relied upon to an equal degree, it is not in the same league.
10) Adapt to the underappreciated burden of superpowerdom - the huge double standards that a benign superpower must withstand in that role. America is still condemned for slavery that ended 140 years ago, even by nations that have done far worse things more recently than that. Is China prepared to apologize for You must login or register to view this content., the genocide in Tibet, the 30 million who perished during the Great Leap Forward, and the suppression of news about SARS,every day for the next century? Is China remotely prepared for being blamed for inaction towards genocide in Darfur while simultaneously being condemned for non-deadly prison abuse in a time of war against opponents who follow no rules of engagement? The amount of unfairness China would have to withstand to truly achieve political parity with America might be prohibitive given China's history over the last 60 years. Furthermore, China being held to the superpower standard would simultaneously reduce the burden that the US currently bears alone, allowing the US to operate with less opposition than it experiences today.
Of the ten points above, Europe and Japan have tried for decades, and have only achieved parity with the US on maybe two of these dimensions at most. China will surpass Europe and Japan by 2030 by achieving perhaps two or possibly even three out of these ten points, but attaining all ten is something I am willing to confidently bet against. The dream of You must login or register to view this content. who relish the prospect of any nation, even a non-democratic one, surpassing the US is still a very distant one. A point that many bring up is that empires have always risen and fallen throughout history. This is partly true, but note that the Roman Empire lasted for over 1000 years after its peak. Also note that the British Empire never actually collapsed since Britain is still one of the the top seven countries in the world today, and the English language is the most widely spoken in the world. Britain was merely surpassed by its descendant, with whom it shares a symbiotic relationship. The US can expect the same if it is finally surpassed, at some point much later than 2030 and probably not before theYou must login or register to view this content., which would make the debate moot.
3) Have a military capable of waging wars anywhere in the globe (even if it does not actually wage any). Part of the opposition that anti-Americans have to the US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is the envy arising from the US being You must login or register to view this content.. No other country currently is even near having the ability to project military power with such force and range. Mere nuclear weapons are no substitute for this. The inability of the rest of the world to do anything to halt genocide in Darfur is evidence of how such problems can only get addressed if and when America addresses them.
4) Have major universities that are household names, that many of the worlds top students aspire to attend. 17 of the world's top 20 universities are in the US. Until top students in Europe, India, and even the US are filling out an application for a Chinese university alongside those of Harvard, Stanford, MIT, or Cambridge, China is not going to match the US in the knowledge economy. This also represents the obstacles China has to overcome to successfully conduct impactful scientific research.
5) Attract the best and brightest to immigrate into China, where they can expect to live a good life in Chinese society. The US effectively receives a subsidy of $100 to $200 billion a year, as people educated at the expense of another nation immigrate here and promptly participate in the workforce. As smart as people within China are, unless they can attract non-Chinese talent that is otherwise going to the US, and even talented Americans, they will not have the same You must login or register to view this content. The small matter of people not wanting to move into a country that is not a democracy also has to be resolved.
6) Become the nation that produces the new inventions and corporations that are adopted by the mass market into their daily lives. From the telephone and airplane over a century ago, America has been the engine of almost all technological progress. Despite the fears of innovation going overseas, the big new technologies and influential applications continue to emerge from companies headquartered in the United States. Just in the last two years, Google emerged as the next super-lucrative company (before eBay and Yahoo slightly earlier), and the American-dominated 'blogosphere' emerged as a powerful force of information and media.
7) Be the leader in You must login or register to view this content.. China's film industry greatly lags India's, let alone America's. We hear about piracy of American music and films in China, which tells us exactly what the world order is. When American teenagers are actively pirating music and movies made in China, only then will the US have been surpassed in this area. Take a moment to think how distant this scenario is from current reality.
Be the nation that engineers many of the greatest moments of human accomplishment. The USSR was ahead of the US in the space race at first, until President Kennedy decided in 1961 to put a man on the moon by 1969. While this mission initially seemed to be unnecessary and expensive, the optimism and pride brought to anti-Communist people worldwide was so inspirational that it accelerated many other forms of technological progress and brought economic growth to free-market countries. This You must login or register to view this content., as the pessimism necessary for socialism to exist became harder to enforce. People from many nations still feel pride from humanity having set foot on the Moon, something which America made possible. China currently has plans to put a man on the moon by 2024. While being only the second country to achieve this would certainly be prestigious, it would still be 55 years after the United States achieved the same thing. That is not quite the trajectory it would take to approach the superpowerdom of the US by 2030. If China puts a man on Mars before the US, I may change my opinion on this point, but the odds of that happening are not high. 9) Be the nation expected to thanklessly use its own resources to solve many of the world's problems. If the US donates $15 billion in aid to Africa, the first reaction from critics is that the US did not donate enough. On the other hand, few even consider asking China to donate aid to Africa. After the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, the fashionable question was why the US did not donate even more and sooner, rather than why China did not donate more, despite being geographically much closer. Ask yourself this - if an asteroid were on a collision course with the Earth, which country's technology would the world depend on to detect it, and then destroy or divert it? Until China is relied upon to an equal degree, it is not in the same league.
10) Adapt to the underappreciated burden of superpowerdom - the huge double standards that a benign superpower must withstand in that role. America is still condemned for slavery that ended 140 years ago, even by nations that have done far worse things more recently than that. Is China prepared to apologize for You must login or register to view this content., the genocide in Tibet, the 30 million who perished during the Great Leap Forward, and the suppression of news about SARS,every day for the next century? Is China remotely prepared for being blamed for inaction towards genocide in Darfur while simultaneously being condemned for non-deadly prison abuse in a time of war against opponents who follow no rules of engagement? The amount of unfairness China would have to withstand to truly achieve political parity with America might be prohibitive given China's history over the last 60 years. Furthermore, China being held to the superpower standard would simultaneously reduce the burden that the US currently bears alone, allowing the US to operate with less opposition than it experiences today.
Of the ten points above, Europe and Japan have tried for decades, and have only achieved parity with the US on maybe two of these dimensions at most. China will surpass Europe and Japan by 2030 by achieving perhaps two or possibly even three out of these ten points, but attaining all ten is something I am willing to confidently bet against. The dream of You must login or register to view this content. who relish the prospect of any nation, even a non-democratic one, surpassing the US is still a very distant one. A point that many bring up is that empires have always risen and fallen throughout history. This is partly true, but note that the Roman Empire lasted for over 1000 years after its peak. Also note that the British Empire never actually collapsed since Britain is still one of the the top seven countries in the world today, and the English language is the most widely spoken in the world. Britain was merely surpassed by its descendant, with whom it shares a symbiotic relationship. The US can expect the same if it is finally surpassed, at some point much later than 2030 and probably not before theYou must login or register to view this content., which would make the debate moot.
05-26-2012, 02:41 AM
#49
FlyingIrishMan
A7X
Originally posted by Saucy
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Great job, you managed to list a load of useless points that had nothing to do with the argument.
Never once did I say anything negative about America. I would like to live there for a while some time in the future, what all my posts were about is about how Ireland is not a shit hole, has a great education system, and we are not drunken idiots.
You and iCode are the once stating useless, and most the time stupid and insulting points. Not me, I'm only defending my country from the criticism from two idiots.
And please, for all that is good in the world, go to an english class.
05-26-2012, 02:57 AM
#50
Saucy-_-
Red Wing's For Life!!!
Originally posted by FlyingIrishMan
Great job, you managed to list a load of useless points that had nothing to do with the argument.
Never once did I say anything negative about America. I would like to live there for a while some time in the future, what all my posts were about is about how Ireland is not a shit hole, has a great education system, and we are not drunken idiots.
You and iCode are the once stating useless, and most the time stupid and insulting points. Not me, I'm only defending my country from the criticism from two idiots.
And please, for all that is good in the world, go to an english class.
Never once did I say anything negative about America. I would like to live there for a while some time in the future, what all my posts were about is about how Ireland is not a shit hole, has a great education system, and we are not drunken idiots.
You and iCode are the once stating useless, and most the time stupid and insulting points. Not me, I'm only defending my country from the criticism from two idiots.
And please, for all that is good in the world, go to an english class.
Well my grammar was not bad so please explain? I never once said that yours was a shit hole i just didnt like you talking bad about america, which you were in the first few post of yours so i stepped in!!!
05-27-2012, 12:43 AM
#52
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
The world has a number of tensions and factors at play right now with could cause serious issues.
It unlikely to mean a world war 3 not yet.
If the tensions / factors keep going in some key areas we may see it down the line. Right now nobody wants it and even if a event was to happen it would die out within days.
Is it a conspiracy i highly doubt that......the fact people are willing to believe anything without questioning the source worries me.
It unlikely to mean a world war 3 not yet.
If the tensions / factors keep going in some key areas we may see it down the line. Right now nobody wants it and even if a event was to happen it would die out within days.
Is it a conspiracy i highly doubt that......the fact people are willing to believe anything without questioning the source worries me.
05-27-2012, 03:48 AM
#53
ic0de
Hurah!
You don't know me. How dare you try and judge my life. I'm sorry that nobody knows who I am on this forum. Unlike you, I do not spend numerous amounts of time on here. You must have great pride in taking care of your priorities on here. Jesus Christ man, get a life. You honestly think I care what people think of me on the internet? I know none of the people on here because I choose to. If you must know, I was brought to this site because of socom. I played that when I was younger and that was when internet forums were more exciting. Now all they consist of is idiots like you. What is your day job? How much do you make? Oh, and I almost forgot. What is the highest EDUCATION you have received? I wish the best of luck to you working in a factory. Beer factory, that is.
Originally posted by FlyingIrishMan
Four years yet nobody knows who the fuck you are. Not to mention the numourous times you've been neg repped and called an idiot.
No intentions? Too late for that now. And again, with the insults towards a nation, very nice.
I read it. I just don't believe you, I find it impossible someone as stupid as you could be in college, unless its like a community college.
And a much more successful life? I doubt it. You're going nowhere in life being as narrow minded and racist as you are.
No intentions? Too late for that now. And again, with the insults towards a nation, very nice.
I read it. I just don't believe you, I find it impossible someone as stupid as you could be in college, unless its like a community college.
And a much more successful life? I doubt it. You're going nowhere in life being as narrow minded and racist as you are.
05-27-2012, 03:50 AM
#54
ghostbear
Vaulted cur
My response to the end of the world.
Kay: We do not discharge our weapons in view of the public!
Jay: Man, we ain't got time for this cover-up bullshit! I don't know whether or not you've forgotten, but there's an Arquillian Battle Cruiser that's about to...
Kay: There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!
Men in black,loved that movie.
Kay: We do not discharge our weapons in view of the public!
Jay: Man, we ain't got time for this cover-up bullshit! I don't know whether or not you've forgotten, but there's an Arquillian Battle Cruiser that's about to...
Kay: There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!
Men in black,loved that movie.
05-27-2012, 06:44 AM
#55
Saucy-_-
Red Wing's For Life!!!
Originally posted by ic0de
You don't know me. How dare you try and judge my life. I'm sorry that nobody knows who I am on this forum. Unlike you, I do not spend numerous amounts of time on here. You must have great pride in taking care of your priorities on here. Jesus Christ man, get a life. You honestly think I care what people think of me on the internet? I know none of the people on here because I choose to. If you must know, I was brought to this site because of socom. I played that when I was younger and that was when internet forums were more exciting. Now all they consist of is idiots like you. What is your day job? How much do you make? Oh, and I almost forgot. What is the highest EDUCATION you have received? I wish the best of luck to you working in a factory. Beer factory, that is.
Just ignore him bro! I bet i make more a hour when i work then him and i dont really ever work. I've been here for like 4 years, had another account that i dont use anymore and i never heard of him so dont worrie!
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