(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Well I thought I would never make this sorta thread here but fuck it here I go! Please be aware this will just be my mind talking and just typing. Alright so in this thread I will be talking about my time being here on NextGenUpdate. So where should I start? I'll start when I joined. Well it started back on my Ps3 days when Cod4 and WaW were huge. I was playing search and destroy on Cod4 when all of sudden I got killed by somebody flying around in the sky. I was like what the fuck how is he doing that so I can't remember how but I ended up somewhere on the internet was either youtube or google but I tried to type in a search that would go along with it and I believe I found Ngu. So I signed up and got the method and to tell you the truth if anybody remember how easy it was to the the ufo hack thing on Cod4 with the usb it literally took me like an hour with a couple tries to figure it out believe it or not lol. I then found you could do even more hacks with the usb offline on cod4 and do even more fun mods with it and stuff. But then finally my Ps3 blue ray laser took and shit and didn't get it fixed till like 6 months later. And that is the time when I fully started my ngu active duty I would call it lol.

So I started getting active in the community and had some stupid bumps in the road but who doesn't? I think I got infracted for rep boosting 1 time and a couple other stupid shit but I am an example on why people deserve 2nd chances and should not be looked down on the stupid shit they did. No 3rd chances etc.. just a 2nd chance and if you fuck up after that you're done. I started to get to know more and more people etc.. Played games on the consoles and got talking to outie on aim etc.. when he was able to get on started to get to know each other and seeing from his point of view I really cared about ngu and boom I became staff in June of 2010 and becoming more with the community etc.. and working my way up through the ranks and finally becoming admin in oct. of 2011.

Alright so that was basically my journey story or something along those lines but now we get down into the nitty gritty. It feels as if back then people actually cared on the site and now hardly anybody does. Like a select few and others are like fuck it. Back then it feels like there was a push that made people want to do more and more because everybody cared and worked together. Back in my time mod stats actually mattered and you would not even have to warn anybody for being to low. shit I think everybody was pretty high in the ranks and actually had mod stats wars to see who was #1 etc but was a friendly competition in the end. This is when all staff got along and there was something like idk what I would call let's call it a "PUSH" that made everybody want to put in some effort into the whole site. there was even a push to mod the forums even when you had enough and you knew you had enough stats or whatever to be fine for the next months. There was so many caring people I could not even believe it and we all worked together on projects and shit and everybody got along. Nobody went off and did there own little secret shit bla bla and got everybody into it so everybody felt together and wanted to do more. shiver, gobble, enzo, rjive, paul, battman, jim, shit the list could go on with ex-staff on people that cared and wanted to help even more but released it was starting to get to why and I doing this anymore since nobody else really started to not care?

I remember when shiver deleted himself or should I say AlphaMudafuckinDenver (holy shit first smiley used in this thread dayumm) but yeah people thought this was a joke as it was by April fools days but I kid you not he came into the modbox like a G and posted this song right here: and deleted himself like a bad ass. Now I don't know about you but that shows you how bad it go at that point of time and how much it took to wake up the owner himself. Shit I would call that the ngu melt down of "2011". A couple more staff members left I believe and shit just got bad. f33l made a thread and even people posted on outie's wall with like 10 scrolls of visitor messages or whatever you would call it. It was all just bad togehter but lucly things started to get ok again but you know you know...

It just feels like there is so many wanna be trolls here and just fuck shit up for the rest of us. Or to many I don't give a fuck people. Back in the day you were respect even on staff you were respect I think it's kinda all a big joke now. Some staff joining along in the bullshit that goes on and then says why is this place like this now. Well hurr durr I wonder why. If you got staff acting like a joke then the members see it and it spreads almost lets call it like a virus. Oh he can do that then I can do that. You gotta think like 80% of this community is teenagers including myself but you got most of then that will be copy cats and do the same shit you do. Then you go ban people/guest them whatever and people start rebeloins over that and shit goes down etc... rep was fuckin awesome before it got changed. It almost made you feel like a bad ass to have respect etc.. since nobody negs you you could fuck up their shit if they do etc.. or help them out a shit load with rep bla bla.

Man I know I will be forgetting a shit load in this thread but I'm trying to think about all the stuff I know well the big stuff I guess to put in this thread but if I have more stuff to add I might just make another thread or edit this but this is getting kinda long I guess lol. But yeah back then it felt like there was push/urge to do more and everybody was just happy to work together and 1 whole team unlike now I would call it. I mean I have had my own thoughts on making my own site and shit etc after I retired and shit but now that I think about it is why? I already belong to this big community why not stay here and try to make shit better or something? Anything helps I guess but still. Gonnna need alot of duck tape here I guess. But I shall stay here and fix things etc.. You get my flow. :p

We need to do something to put this place back in over drive or should I say poppin like it was back in the days that it was good. It happened before and I'm pretty sure if everybody puts their minds to it then we all could make it happen. I mean shit we can even put a video up on the ngs channel without it getting tons of dislikes? Some bs I call that. We all have to work together to make shit happen and I can see that happening. So I had a couple ideas that came to mine and shit so here it goes.

We need to spread stuff out. And I mean go big or go home! Let's do some new domains that focus on other forums Idea different things.. Maybe like a computer discussion site etc... but all the domains would always bring linked back to the main site which is here ngu. I mean we are the next gen updates site arn't we? the next big generating or all updates etc.. We gotta expand stuff and get new people and who knows maybe if they join one site they will come to ngu and spark a lil gaming in them or something. Try something new. When there is no glitches hacks or something then you gotta move on with something else but still keep it. You never know until you try it right? Life is like a box a chocolates you never know what you gonna get right?

Well I can't believe I just typed all this up lol this is crazy (and I just met you can I get ya numba?) :p anyways if you guys want to get into a movement to make this place better again etc... then hell yeah let's goooo! any ideas post below. remember 1 idea can go far.

I probably forgot a couple things but like I said above maybe 2nd part or something but for now that is it and I hope you guys read it even though how fuckin long this is but yup.

Regards, Reaper

Edit: Also I don't mean to get into any fights with anybody or anything etc.. This is just how I saw it and thought I would share since this general discussion right?

Too you and others that say that staff unbans scammers.
No one that has ever been banned for scamming has been unanned by a staff member.
Too my knowledge those decisions have been made by Outsider alone.

But staff has lobbied hard to unban members and ex staff that have ended up being banned for many other reasons, many that were completely justified.
And often they go right back to the behavior that got them banned in the first place, and undermine the staff member that helped get them back on here.

To me it seems that another underlying problem is the feeling that ex staff is somehow way superior to other members.
In the way they act and are treated by current staff.
Very few retired because of fundamental issues on how the site was being run, but all act that way after.
Too many criticize current staff for behavior that was the norm when they were staff.

Too much of the negativity over the site comes from ex staff, who decided to retire rather than try an change the site from within.
And often retired out of the blue, without major complaint on how the place was being run, only to come on the next day, as a Ex-Staff guy, proclaiming everything wrong with how it is being run.

While this thread has more suggestions than others I've seen, it is still more finger pointing at others, than any acceptance that we are in this together and are all responsible for changing the behaviors that are causing the site to lose a community feel.

But a fundamental problem still exists , Outsider does not take a regular active role in site leadership, and pass a clear consistant message from the top down. So the site management roles are left unclear on who is running what and leads to the lack of communication among the different staff groups.

2009. Yep, that was the year that was.

Btw, when did people stop using decent sigs?

Prime example of why we need negative reputation back.

Reaper is one of the very few to come out openly and honestly on this forum, pinpointing the problems we have and why we have them insighting some solutions and suggestions for future development of the site based on his experience as a staff member and all you can say is "tl;dr"? Show some fucking respect or just leave the site because honestly people like you are why these problems come about.

There is so much more I could say but Im not going to because I don't have the time to waste trying to make you see the errors of your ways because it's down to you to grow up and acknowledge other peoples points of views.

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I hate to bring up call of duty as any reference but it's remarkable how similar NGU reflects to it in the sense that, as all great things, they both had their peek. In their repsective categories they were the #1 choice and in the back of users/gamers minds there is an area of reminiscent thought and longing for the old ways to come back however in order to improve and appeal to larger audiences these two different things have had to make some small and some significant changes, changes that weren't always popular.

It's an old cliche but one that has to be asked over and over again, 'why change something when it isn't broken?' referring primarily to the situation with rep since that seems to the main focal point of posts in this thread. For me rep has been completely butchered, ever since the introduction of badges and limitations it has been a downward spiral, one that the general membership haven't been able to have any say in except when the choices were staff made. If the developers of cod weren't making so much revenue purely based on their earlier cod successes then they would turn back time and would have opened up to the public abit more and made their opinions count because we all know it's been in a steady decline for the past couple of years now. The difference is NGU can be changed with abit more co-operation between staff and the public and alot more maturity since it isn't set in stone like a game release.

I may be stating the obvious but it's one that hasn't been acted upon by admins but I don't blame the latter ones at least because I know witnessing it first hand myself that it's the newer admins who want to make the real difference. It's the older admins, primarily outsider who assert the real control on what changes are made but they are the ones who are more likely to parry suggestions away down to their decreased activity and knowledge of what goes on day to day on NGU. This isn't a cheap shot focused at admins by any means because I know how all your contributions and efforts that have been poured into the site can easily be undermined or completely overlooked so don't take it the wrong way but it's clear to see from the many responses that quick fixes need to be made and the relationships primarily between staff need to be improved to allow them to communicate much more effectively.

But with that being said, the bitchiness and finger pointing about the minor things from particular users needs to stop and a more constructive way of getting through to staff to implement changes needs to be approached. NGU is what it is and honestly in the months/years to come I wouldn't find myself going to any other gaming forum despite the little drawbacks that have been made, despite the users who post two LOL faces in a serious discussion, despite the pre-pubescent teens who think they are a master class in the trolling arts. Because it's all here.

My opinion if you don't like , i don't care

For starters i am not a fan of these nGu "downhill" threads. Simply because 9 times out of 10, they blame staff, and its the same jazz. Im not going to lie, some of these post were extremely long, and i started to peruse. Reputation to me is a joke, thats the way i perceive it, it proved NOTHING to me. Why because anyone can wake up one day and scam, because they want to leave nGu with something that benefits them. As for the "good old days" . NGU has had good times and bad times in the past, we have this perception that everything in 2009 was sunshine and flowers. I joined in 2010, so i don't have much of a right to speak about NGU in 2009, However, im sure in 2009 there was more than a handful problems. I can go on this topic for days. But i believe ranting is pointless, it gets you NOWHERE, take action, instead of bitching at staff. Why not help staff? Because bitching, and getting your friends to agree gets you no where. If you are a former staff who has "little time" to devote to this site, than how can you expect NGU to be your way? Let me end this post here, if i have something to add ill make an edit. If you want to return to the glory days take action, no gay one week forums, no pointing fingers, etc. Because if all these thanks and posts are here, than i believe you gents should take action, and restore nGu to its prime in a positive way.

*Edit*: Not directed to anyone

Some good points here. I might comment on it all later but on the whole unbanning scammers topic:

I would say this whole issue has been wildly exaggerated. Most, if not all, of the people unbanned for scamming did so under the agreement that they refund the user. Our policy has always been to allow scammers to give refunds to avoid bans otherwise they would have no incentive to refund victims and we'd have even more problems. I know it's frustrating to let them get away with it but its the only way of getting users their refunds. Maybe some have been unbanned who shouldn't have been, but if anything that was just Outsider's trusting, forgiving nature. He never would unban someone to cause trouble, more to give them a second chance as he doesn't want NGU becoming a place where certain people aren't welcome because a few people don't like them.

This may seem like a bit of a rant, but it isn't, just letting you guys know so you can empathise a little.

lol, fuck you Liam :dumb: If you saw any of my following posts on this thread you wouldve seen that I wasn't trying to troll. So before you come up with some bullshit see the entire story. I apologized to Reaper for taking it as a troll post. Go back to being fucking retired as you are doing nothing as for the bettering of the site.

Being one of those unbanned scammers, even though I didn't really scam and got banned for another reason here is what I think..

All the negativity that is on NGU as of now comes from, Former Staff acting cool because one day they were mods and current staff agreeing with me on everything .. I mean see them in the shoutbox and see how unfair is it, the other day I got in the shoutbox and the topic was reputation everyone was shouting like crazy and me reading, some guy told MATT he was a negative member and then MATT asked for reasons and all I shouted was : " You neg people just because you don't like them " and EVERYONE in the shoutbox started saying " Aiden stop talking about rep blablabla " The fucking topic is reputation why can't I talk about it too ? Because one day my rep got reset ? So fucking what ? Then Ownage got in the shoutbox and banned me for no reason just because I was talking about rep... Whilst everyone else was talking about it too...

My point is treat former staff, and current staff the way you would treat a regular member or premium or whatever.. I have nothing against Ownage but here is another example, he banned me from the shoutbox few days ago about that reputation topic... Do you find it correct to ban me and leave me banned from the shoutbox for days and days without unbanning me ? He is a super mod he should know by now that I got to get unbanned after 24 or 48 hours... I tried to contact few moderators about it to let them know that I still didn't get unban and none of them has replied to me as of now, and as of now I am still shoutbox banned..

My main thing is if you want a fair forum just treat and punish everyone the same way don't make any exception because they are staff or former staff ..

Please go ahead and PM me how I can improve, no one really gives feedback on NGS so I don't know anything. Everyone just leaves a dislike because they think they're funny trolls. To those who do it, you're supposed to support your own community, if you don't like the video that's fine, but when you see a video that has more likes than dislikes, would you waste your time watching it? How do you think NGS will bring more users if people immediately close the tab after clicking on a NGS video? I see all of these former staff people (you kow who you are) criticizing me in the shoutbox, it got to a point where I didn't go to the shoutbox because literally all I would get is hate, and everyone else would join in.

Honestly, I wanted to leave the Media Team, but they stopped, most likely because I talked to a good friend of mine (you know who you are as well).

Everyone please send me constructive criticism so I can improve and bring you guys the best content you guys want to watch. Thank you.