Post: Your Opinion on Area 51/Groom Lake
08-02-2012, 07:47 PM #1
XxAKASHIxX
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Area 51/Groom Lake



Area 51 is a military base on the southern shore of Groom Lake. The base's primary purpose is undetermined, however it appears to support development and testing of experimental aircraft and weapons systems. The facility is not a conventional airbase, as frontline operational units are not normally deployed there. It instead appears to be used for highly classified military/defense Special Access Programs, which are unacknowledged publicly by the government, military personnel, and defense contractors. Its mission may be to support the development, testing, and training phases for new aircraft weapons systems or research projects. Once these projects have been approved by the United States Air Force or other agencies such as the CIA, and are ready to be announced to the public, operations of the aircraft are then moved to a normal air force base. The intense secrecy surrounding the base, whose very existence the U.S. government did not even acknowledge until 14 July 2003, has made it the frequent subject of conspiracy theories and a central component to unidentified flying object (UFO) stories. Area 51 is where they tested many aircraft such as the U-2, X-15, OXCART, D-21, and the F-117.

UFO and other conspiracy theories

Its secretive nature and undoubted connection to classified aircraft research, together with reports of unusual phenomena, have led Area 51 to become a focus of modern UFO and conspiracy theories. Some of the activities mentioned in such theories at Area 51 include:
The storage, examination, and reverse engineering of crashed alien spacecraft (including material supposedly recovered at Roswell), the study of their occupants (living and dead), and the manufacture of aircraft based on alien technology.
Meetings or joint undertakings with extraterrestrials.
The development of exotic energy weapons for the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) or other weapons programs.
The development of means of weather control.
The development of time travel and teleportation technology.
The development of unusual and exotic propulsion systems related to the Aurora Program.
Activities related to a supposed shadowy one world government or the Majestic 12 organization.
Many of the hypotheses concern underground facilities at Groom or at Papoose Lake, and include claims of a transcontinental underground railroad system, a disappearing airstrip nicknamed the "Cheshire Airstrip", which briefly appears when water is sprayed onto its camouflaged asphalt, and engineering based on alien technology. Publicly available satellite imagery, however, reveals clearly visible landing strips at Groom Dry Lake, but not at Papoose Lake.
Veterans of experimental projects such as OXCART and NERVA at Area 51 agree that their work inadvertently prompted many of the UFO sightings and other rumors.
The shape of OXCART was unprecedented, with its wide, disk-like fuselage designed to carry vast quantities of fuel. Commercial pilots cruising over Nevada at dusk would look up and see the bottom of OXCART whiz by at 2,000-plus mph. The aircraft's titanium body, moving as fast as a bullet, would reflect the sun's rays in a way that could make anyone think, UFO.
They believe that the rumors helped maintain secrecy over Area 51's actual operations. While the veterans deny the existence of a vast underground railroad system, many of Area 51's operations did occur underground.
Bob *****
see: S-4 (facility) for further information
Several people have claimed knowledge of events supporting Area 51 conspiracy theories. These have included Bob, who claimed in 1989 that he had worked at Area 51's "Sector Four (S-4)", said to be located underground inside the Papoose Range near Papoose Lake. Bob has stated he was contracted to work with alien spacecraft that the U.S. government had in its possession.
Bruce ******
Similarly, the 1996 documentary Dreamland directed by Bruce ******* included an interview with a 71 year old mechanical engineer who claimed to be a former employee at Area 51 during the 1950s. His claims included that he had worked on a "flying disc simulator" which had been based on a disc originating from a crashed extraterrestrial craft and was used to train US Pilots. He also claimed to have worked with an extraterrestrial being named "J-Rod" and described as a "telepathic translator".
Dan *********
In 2004, Dan ******** claimed to have worked on cloning alien viruses at Area 51, also alongside the alien named "J-Rod". Dan's scholarly credentials are the subject of much debate, as he was apparently working as a Las Vegas parole officer in 1989 while also earning a PhD at SUNY.[64]

My question to you is what is your opinion of all the conspiracy theories? Do you think there really is all this stuff the goverment isnt telling us?

For me i think there is things the government isnt telling us. Ive seen things in the sky I cant describe (long story) an i gotta say. its one of those things that you have to see to belive. i used to think people who believed in aliens an conspiracy theories were making up stories for attention. But now im a true believer

Sources: wikipedia.org
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Geigers, HtD
08-02-2012, 08:21 PM #2
The Low Key OG
still the same OG, but I've been low key
Because everyone thinks the government is hiding everything in Area 51, it's the perfect cover-up to hide things anywhere else. You'll never get to see inside Area 51, because there's nothing in there. They keep the good stuff elsewhere, in places they pay special attention to make sure nobody ever finds out about.
08-02-2012, 10:16 PM #3
Peter_Griffin
Are you high?
I really don't know although I doubt the Government would cover up and hide all that stuff, what would they really have to gain by it?
08-02-2012, 10:17 PM #4
iLLuSiOnZ915
Maggbot timeout!
Oscorp does its research there.
08-02-2012, 10:25 PM #5
XxAKASHIxX
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Originally posted by Peter
I really don't know although I doubt the Government would cover up and hide all that stuff, what would they really have to gain by it?


i think by covering it up it keeps other countries from finding out.. that is if they even do have anything
08-02-2012, 10:44 PM #6
I saw a program on the National Geographic channel talking about area 51 and as I suspected, and to the dismay of those hoping marvelous tales involving beings from other planets, a guy who worked there in the area 51 said: "We are not aware of any life outside the planet and there is no connection with UFOs at Area 51" According to him, there you find only aircraft made ​​by humans. He said : " we are the UFOS," and also added: "Area 51 was the most boring place I've ever worked."
In the end, these rumors have helped hide the true purpose of the military base, which was good for the government. It was important to keep secret for a strategic and national security - after all, they developed fighters and weapons for war and studied technological enemy there. But now that the OXCART program and others were dropped by the U.S. Army, this guy who worked there and his colleagues were released to let the world know about area 51. He said : "We realized that the work developed there would no longer have practical use, but could still be useful for the education of the population and would be important to the history books," he explained.

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DinoFreak
08-02-2012, 11:22 PM #7
GodDrinksPepsi
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Originally posted by Peter
I really don't know although I doubt the Government would cover up and hide all that stuff, what would they really have to gain by it?


They would cover it up to keep people from thinking Aliens are going to take over and also to keep other countries out of the loop..
08-02-2012, 11:48 PM #8
The Low Key OG
still the same OG, but I've been low key
Originally posted by Peter
I really don't know although I doubt the Government would cover up and hide all that stuff, what would they really have to gain by it?


You really have to ask what you would have to gain by having exclusive use to alien technologies?
08-03-2012, 01:00 AM #9
DinoFreak
I'm le back
Originally posted by The
You really have to ask what you would have to gain by having exclusive use to alien technologies?


I belive that there's life on other planets, but all the video tapes on planet earth are complete bullshit. :/

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MelissaMollin
08-03-2012, 01:07 AM #10
The Low Key OG
still the same OG, but I've been low key
Originally posted by CookeiMonztah View Post
I belive that there's life on other planets, but all the video tapes on planet earth are complete bullshit. :/


Yeah, I don't think we've found it yet, but probably in our life times we'll get some evidence.

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