Post: do u belive in evolution
09-23-2009, 03:37 PM #1
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09-25-2009, 02:47 AM #29
yes i do but try to be nice to anyone that doesn't remember everyone is entitled to have their own opinion and believe in their own religion
09-25-2009, 03:11 AM #30
EliteAccuracy
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Originally posted by CKhaleel View Post
I personally believe in evolution, but I also believe God made the first organisms that evolved.


Thats what I believe

I believe god set Evolution in Motion, Evolution didnt just randomy start
09-25-2009, 05:03 AM #31
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Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
yeah he tore my argument up by typing Wtf and saying its nonsense without backing it up with proof.


You can verify it yourself with a little research. I wasn't under the impression that I had to do all the work for you.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
Creationism and Evolution are both theories,


Creationism - based on 3 millennium old writing, with no verifiable evidence of any sort.

Evolution - Accepted theory among scientists based on empirical evidence, factual data, and to its credibility has over a quarter million peer reviewed citations.

A scientific theory is not the same thing as the word "theory" in everyday language. It is an explanation to a large number of facts which provides testable predictions.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
Creationism is just as credible as Creationism until it has been proven.


Yes, that's because creationism IS creationism.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
Please find me a fossil link that is proven to be a devolved human, yeah there is none they are all hoaxes.


Theres no such thing as "devolution."

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
And if its so hard to understand, Im talking about the flightless in my argument but I expected too much common sense from you sorry.


Why would you refer to flightless birds, and why would that have an impact on the validity of your assertions?

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
I gtg so I'll leave a few questions you evolutionists can answer, dont stare at the screen too long looking for an answer through evolution, you might hurt yourself.


Rather, you might hurt your brain if you actually use it. It's probably been a long time since you put that good ol' cranium of yours to use, hasn't it?

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
1. Where has macro evolution ever been observed? What's the mechanism for getting new complexity such as new vital organs? How, for example, could a caterpillar evolve into a butterfly?


Macroevolution has been witnessed in the microbial world. Look up observed instances of speciation.

The mechanism for new vital organs is the same mechanism for all of evolution: genetic mutation/variance, and natural selection.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
2. Where are the billions of transitional fossils that should be there if your theory is right? Billions! Not a handful of questionable transitions. Why don't we see a reasonably smooth continuum among all living creatures, or in the fossil record, or both?


That's because "transitional" species coexist for a relatively short time frame when compared with their longer lasting counterparts.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
3. Who are the evolutionary ancestors of the insects? The evolutionary tree that's in the textbook: where's its trunk and where are its branches?


The common ancestor of all life is a simple single celled organism, less complicated even than today's archae bacteria. That is the trunk. The branches are all that stem from it, which is all life.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
4. What evidence is there that information, such as that in DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4000 books of coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells? If astronomers received an intelligent radio signal from some distant galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent source. Why then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA molecule of just a bacteria also imply an intelligent source?


DNA didn't magically assemble itself. It was the result of the evolution of nucleic acids. What about all the information- what's your point? We receive radio signals from space all the time, but it is mostly cosmic radiation left over from the big bang. Everything has some naturalistic explanation, whether you personally know it or not.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
5. How could organs as complicated as the eye or the ear or the brain of even a tiny bird ever come about by chance or natural processes? How could a bacterial motor evolve?


They don't come about by chance, they come about by the process of evolution. Remember?

For example, a single photosensitive cell can let an organism know whether its day or night. Multiple cells then become present. When there are enough, the photosensitivity is sufficient to detect changes in light patterns. Multiply this by billions of years, and you have the modern eye.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
6. If the solar system evolved, why do three planets spin backwards? Why do at least 6 moons revolve backwards?


What? That has nothing to do with biotic evolution, and regardless the spin of the bodies is completely irrelevant as to the origin.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
7. Why do we have comets if the solar system is billions of years old?


Uh... what? Let's see, maybe because they haven't melted yet? That would make sense considering space is near absolute zero in temperature :rolleyes:.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
8. Where did all the helium go?


What do you mean? Helium is the second most common element in the universe. If you mean where'd it go on earth, have you ever let go of a helium balloon? Where does it go? Up. It's called buoyancy my friend.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
9. How did sexual reproduction evolve?


When the genetic information of two organisms suited better for genetic variation than the asexual alternative.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
10. If the big bang occurred, where did all the information around us and in us come from? Has an explosion ever produced order? Or as Sir Isaac Newton said, "Who wound up the clock?"


We don't know. It's still one of the major problems left to be sorted out in physics. That doesn't, however, mean that the invisible magic man did it. It just means we don't know.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
11. Why do so many of the earth's ancient cultures have flood legends?


Because ancient cultures were most commonly based around rivers which do tend to flood from time to time.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
12. Where did matter come from? What about space, time, energy, and even the laws of physics?


From the initial separation of the forces in the instant of the big bang.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
13. How did the first living cell begin? That's a greater miracle than for a bacteria to evolve to a man. How did that first cell reproduce?


Abiogenesis. Look it up.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
14. Just before life appeared, did the atmosphere have oxygen or did it not have oxygen?


Trace amounts, but not nearly the quantity it has today.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
15. Why aren't meteorites found in supposedly old rocks?


Because finding old rocks that happened to have been struck by meteorites isn't that easy believe it or not.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
16. If it takes intelligence to make an arrowhead, why doesn't it take vastly more intelligence to create a human? Do you really believe that hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?


Fundamental ignorance of evolution. No, of course hydrogen left alone will not turn into a human. Don't be stupid.

Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
17. Which came first, DNA or the proteins needed by DNA--which can only be produced by DNA?


Neither. Genetic information wasn't always coded in DNA. Even some types of viruses still use RNA instead of DNA.

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09-25-2009, 09:16 PM #32
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lol I made I typo I meant Evolution is just as credible as Creationism

And also I meant devolved as in the past species that evolved to human
09-25-2009, 09:53 PM #33
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Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
lol I made I typo I meant Evolution is just as credible as Creationism

And also I meant devolved as in the past species that evolved to human


So I take it that now, because you chose not to rebut his statements, that he has the foothold in this argument, and you will barrel down to MERE semantics to argue.
09-26-2009, 12:06 AM #34
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Originally posted by EliteAccuracy View Post
lol I made I typo I meant Evolution is just as credible as Creationism


Prove it. Evolution has facts to back it up and Creationism only has beliefs.
09-26-2009, 06:19 PM #35
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Originally posted by nightsesh1 View Post
absolutely awful counter example to evolution and im sorry but if you had a debate between a minister and an evolutionary scientist, the minister would get completely demolished because all you creationists have to base you theories on are complete speculation about all the made up stories in the bible.


no he woulndnt becuase a minister is not agianst evolution for all we know so therefor they would instead of debeating have coffe and try to converte one another and we use more than the bible theres scince thats kills evolution heck evolution kills itself and evolution is a weak ecscuse (sry if not spelt right) for the fact of no god and noone wants to belive in god becuase then they dont have to have morales and they can live a pathetic life of vilionce and a never ending line of sluts they meat at a bar wow i belive in a god and theres almost no fact your almost right theres is some fact but im not gonna look 4 it right now but i belive that a higher power made me and you belive u came from soup oh sry primortial soup and that every thing that is balanced so perfevt came from an explosion and that explosion came from some floating dots that slamed together ok go blow some stuff up and see if it can make a perfect balance of anything thats why the us military uses explosives to destroy stuff not make stuff

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plz research evolution here google this "why evolution is not fact" and dont say evolution is accepted it is not that wiedly belived alot of ppl are coming and seeing that evolution can be torn apart by scince you dont hear about for obvious reasons they say it takes millions of years to petrifie somthing but in 15 years a whole pearson petrified then theres petrified crayons theres a petrified fish giving birth so it cant take millions of years iv never seen a birth that takes that long and the moon is moving away from the earth slowly about to were not even billions of years but just about 1 million years the moon would be touching the earth and the tides would be up to arizona becuase the moon controles tides by the distance it is from the earth so how is the earth millions of years old when its impossible
09-26-2009, 06:22 PM #36
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dude i love how you talk about people resorting to violence without god and religion. do you realize that religion is the root of almost every recorded conflict in history?

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09-26-2009, 08:40 PM #37
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Definitley, to deny evolution these days is embarrasing. Either that or you are oblivious to the evidence.

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