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*The ethicality and morality surrounding piracy is very subjective so I've left it out of the poll.

I 100% believe piracy is all promotion for the content, you cannot pirate seeing a singer live.

If the world was a perfect place... I would say nothing should be paid for.
But as long as somebody has to make a living to feed themselves, then paying for a service is the only option.




As far as piracy... corporate greed aside.
As long as piracy is taking rightfully earned income from somebody else... then it is wrong to do so.

How many things in this world are rightfully given anyway? Most things that people have are usually stolen from someone else, or butchered at best.

Piracy reminds us of self applied Justice- by the people for the people.

Its not stealing, its ambiguously acquiring what you do not have.

Muddy waters...

My point... is that if piracy puts some regular Joe out of a job... and leaves him homeless... then I cannot possibly see that it can be justified.
Again... I stated... corporate greed aside.

As another user stated earlier... if somebody comes up with some new coding... and wishes to charge for it.
That is a service....
However, if all of a sudden this code ends up being given away for nothing (through piracy)... this programmer is left with nothing for his/her work.

We are NOT talking about stealing bread because you are starving... this is not the same.

For the most part... piracy is done for luxury items.
Music, entertainment... etc...
Luxury items are things we might like/want... but do not need to survive.
Sure... I want to have the latest PS3 game... but if I can't afford it... do I have the right to download the latest ISO of it?
I suppose I have the right... but that does not make it legal...
Because in reality... the more money in sales re-directed from the manufacturer, means the less money that can be used to employ people.
Lets be honest... the CEO doesn't take the paycut... it is the little guy who gets fired.

I do not think this is what is being asked in this thread.
As I DO have a problem with basic living needs being kept from those who need it... simply for profit.

This...I'm not into theft (or the mainstream societal definition of it, anyway), especially when it trickles down directly to the little guy who's just trying to make ends meet, as Gandalf1969 was explaining.

But I also have to agree (to an extent) to this comment by Keomo: "Piracy reminds us of self applied Justice- by the people for the people."

This, also. There has to be some type of "balance", some type of provision in place or checks and balances for Big Money Corporations, too. 'Cause if not...*whistles*. Stand the EFF by...

Music = $$$$$$, therefore it's okay to pirate them.
Films = $$$$$$, therefore it's okay to pirate them.
TV shows = $$$$$$, therefore it's okay to pirate them.
Games and Apps = Lowest incomes, sometimes it's okay to pirate them, sometimes not.

Hypocrisy at its finest, but pirating and stealing aren't exactly the same thing anyway. Pirating doesn't hurt people both physically and psychologically, whereas on the other hand, stealing can cause pain and death. Imagine getting mugged with your entire life on the line? Imagine getting your own stuff stolen? And the list goes on. Piracy is virtually harmless.

Seriously, though. If you're a developer, singer or director and you make weak profits, you're doing something wrong. Blame yourself, not piracy. When customers are truly happy and satisfied with your work, you will make $$$$$ regardless.

The first post was irrelevant, justifying 1000 people having it for free is fine because 1 person paid for it lol

Anyway, I watch tiny amounts of tv online... however I have a sky subscription so I'm already paying for it just sometimes I miss it