(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Well we have Science vs. God, which is already a very controversial topic, and I might as well add this to the mix for those who enjoy politics. I'd prefer to have one thread where we can debate. I'll open up a poll while I'm at it. I'll tailor this thread to Conservative vs. Liberal vs. Libertarian vs. Other, so that I can open up the thread to a majority of nations instead of focusing on just one.

Don't get too heated, and please follow the rules.

Well no crap the world works differently from how you work, and yes not everyone is rich and white, thank you for making this quick resolution, now we can more easily discuss in this thread due to that statement.

Yes people are different, and not everyone can fit the bill that the media loves to show. Rich people helping the poor? That's a good joke, they would much rather go to war and get into debt researching the best possible ways to blow up the world rather then save it.

There are hardly any regulations on competition in terms of internet in the EU. The place where competition doesn't appear is when the government gets involved and allows for regulations. That's when competition doesn't appear. If internet companies were competing to provide customers with better prices, they would be able to drive down the cost of internet. But the thing is that, in Canada, that's illegal. Competition is literally illegal here. All the lines in Canada are Rogers and Bell, meaning that if another company like Verizon or ATT wanted to come here to set up their own lines, they would not be allowed to do so, and that's all protected by the government.



This is also something that is true, however again, this is not caused by free market. This is caused because of government subsidizing healthcare, and imposing harsher regulations on them. If healthcare in the USA was privatized and allowed for more competition, prices would decrease drastically. Of course, there will still need to be some form of regulation, as we are talking about healthcare and people's lives, and people would still have to adhere to the laws and whatnot.



Free healthcare is a large illusion. There is no such thing as free. Tax rates would skyrocket, and the government would be forced to do what it did in Canada, increase regulations so that they can benefit from it and drive up costs for everything in the country. I can get the sense for what you stand for, and I would honestly encourage you to move to Canada and see how you like the incredible left leaning policies here. This is how liberals want the world to be like, and Canada would be a perfect example of what happens after you have years of Liberal rule. We have "free" healthcare which really translates to paying thousands in extra taxes (which you could use those savings in the US to buy insurance that is really cheaper than the so called free healthcare in Canada). We have alcohol regulated by the government, meaning that they make piles of money off it, which who could blame them when you're paying $30 for a case of beer.



I don't really know about that.

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They have hardly been growing in terms of GDP growth rate.

The US has been doing much better (after the recession)

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These are the same numbers used in a CNN report.

So economic growth in the USA is still increasing at a better rate than that of Germany.




The Nordic model is something that does not work in all situations, and will not work in the USA. It works, because all the people in the Nordic countries are very similar in nature. They do not want free things, and they like working 30 hours a week for a little less pay with higher tax rates and less money for themselves. They don't have a lot of welfare dependency and have a lot less people unemployment. They are not like the people in the USA, they themselves are motivated and are not bothered by lower wages and higher taxes. Similar to how Canada acts, we are not bothered by being in a constant state of mediocrity. Don't get me wrong, Germany is amazing and has extremely intelligent people, however, the higher tax rates is why their products still cost so much. Not to mention to sell things here, you have to pay shipping etc.

To those of who who voted "other", where do you stand on modern day political issues?

Millz, I have a feeling you'd enjoy this video. It's Nigel Farage from UKIP.

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Did some research and found that, which automatically is a plus for me :p. I'm watching the video now, however, he already seems to be very outspoken and does not stand for bullshit. I like the man thus far, although I have not further studied his economic policies along with his social ones, however just from the above article link I can say that I would support him compared to any other modern day liberal running for office.

I don't know too much about Nigel Farage, but I hear he is like the Ron Paul(the only non-puppet who actually wanted to fix things) of where he's from. Good politicians like these will never be El-ected because they actually make sense.

Bureaucracy and it's inefficiencies is what kills government politics.
Policy is worthy and needed political debate but politicians distort the truth to protect their power base.
Bureaucracy and the constituency it supports will never allow politicians to debate policy decisions fairly.

If they could just spend half their time managing government effectively and eliminate all the waste and multiple programs, we could all have what we need, be inclusive, and get ahead.

I hate that politicians enter politics for the greater good and are so easily corrupted by their own party and personal egos.

You've heard wrong. UKIP are trying for a single-issue vote, and most of their voters have no clue about said issue. (Issue = European Union.)

They're only gaining traction because of the way in which their agenda matches with that of papers like The Sun (who the f*ck actually reads that nonsense? Apparently lots of deluded people.).

Read their manifesto, they're more than just a protest vote

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