Post: Which religion is right?
10-25-2009, 08:41 PM #1
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10-27-2009, 11:42 PM #20
SeArGaNt-KoCk
B.O.D figure that out :p
Originally posted by GTghost View Post
Christianity


this is a debate, don't just post your religion. refer to my post if you want to know what debating is.
10-28-2009, 01:06 AM #21
blizzard94
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None! Well actually the christian God came down and when he asked why I dont worship him I responded "Because you kill millions of innocent people". But I think most sensible people can see that religion is used just to fill the void of what we do not know and help us cope with life (alas it was and is still used in cases today as a form of control over a people and gain power and/or wealth) .
10-28-2009, 01:29 AM #22
Rurouni83
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am i the only person here who doesnt belive in a religon but belives there is a god but that this god doesnt care what happens to you or others?
10-28-2009, 01:32 AM #23
elfmotat
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Originally posted by KoCk View Post
Religion is a belief. Whether it be Christianity, Buddist, Muslim, Pixieism, Unicornism, Atheism. None of these beliefs can be fully proven. You can only have faith in what you think is correct. Atheism too, is a belief.


Nope. Atheism is a lack of belief in God or gods.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
It may be bast on facts, but in reality, you BELIEVE in the facts, therefore you are not forced to say that is correct.


Atheism isn't based on facts. It's simply a lack of belief in something for which there is no evidence. If you're an atheist, it doesn't necessarily mean you believe in evolution, the big bang, etc.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
I cannot prove that Christianity is the true religion and all others are incorrect. I can simply only believe.


But why believe it in the first place?

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
But, on the other hand, Christianity cannot be disproved either.


Neither can pixieism Winky Winky. That's still not a valid reason to believe in it.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
There are many resources that show some fact that there is a God and he is the creator and I believe it more so than all other religions.


Such as... ?

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
And also, why not believe in something?


I do believe in something. I believe in rocks, water, doors, lamps, etc.

Are you referring to why not believe in gods? Because there's no evidence that would give me any reason to. Even if I wanted to believe God, I still wouldn't be able to because the bullshit detector in the back of my head would be going off constantly. I can't just simply believe in something I know isn't there. I can't believe in God any more than I can believe in pixies - even if I wanted to.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
Would you rather die an Atheist and find out you were wrong and there actually was a true religion, or have faith in a religion and have a chance, even if it may be a 2% chance, that you will live in an eternal Eutopia.


2% ? Try 10^-You must login or register to view this content.% chance. Why not take the chance? Same reason I don't take the chance of believing in Allah or Krishnah.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
If elf reads this, he will simply say, "But what if there is a god that sends all Atheists to heaven?" and i will say what i always do and what will most likely always be said. If that is what you believe, so be it. I cannot make you believe in something that you do not. Nor can I prove your statement wrong. I can only have faith. Final Words.....


I still have just as much a chance of getting into heaven as you: 10^-You must login or register to view this content.% .

Faithfulness is a synonym for gullibility. (No, really. The more faithful you are, the more likely you will believe something for which there is no evidence.)
10-28-2009, 01:48 AM #24
SeArGaNt-KoCk just got pooped on by elf, imo. Couldn't have said it better myself.
10-28-2009, 08:26 PM #25
SeArGaNt-KoCk
B.O.D figure that out :p
Originally posted by elfmotat View Post
Nope. Atheism is a lack of belief in God or gods.


Exactly.. A lack of belief in god or gods. Either way, it is a belief.



Originally posted by another user
Atheism isn't based on facts. It's simply a lack of belief in something for which there is no evidence. If you're an atheist, it doesn't necessarily mean you believe in evolution, the big bang, etc.


But, in the other thread you claimed that Atheism was based on facts?



Originally posted by another user
But why believe it in the first place?


For what you would call a, "Comfort Zone". Why not have some hope to be in a perfect place?


Originally posted by another user

Neither can pixieism Winky Winky. That's still not a valid reason to believe in it.


Well, pixieism is not a real religion. I just used it to emphasize what i was saying. :p But how is a perfect world not a valid reason to believe?


Originally posted by another user
Such as... ?


The Bible. Written by disciples of God.


Originally posted by another user

I do believe in something. I believe in rocks, water, doors, lamps, etc.

Are you referring to why not believe in gods? Because there's no evidence that would give me any reason to. Even if I wanted to believe God, I still wouldn't be able to because the bullshit detector in the back of my head would be going off constantly. I can't just simply believe in something I know isn't there. I can't believe in God any more than I can believe in pixies - even if I wanted to.


For one thing, you don't know it isn't there, as you said above.

Originally posted by another user


2% ? Try 10^-You must login or register to view this content.% chance. Why not take the chance? Same reason I don't take the chance of believing in Allah or Krishnah.


What is that reason?

Originally posted by another user

I still have just as much a chance of getting into heaven as you: 10^-You must login or register to view this content.% .

Faithfulness is a synonym for gullibility. (No, really. The more faithful you are, the more likely you will believe something for which there is no evidence.)


That may be true, but what sounds better and be honest. Eternal nothingness. Or eternal life in a perfect world?
10-29-2009, 03:32 AM #26
elfmotat
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Originally posted by KoCk View Post
Exactly.. A lack of belief in god or gods. Either way, it is a belief.


Lack of belief is the opposite of belief lol.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
But, in the other thread you claimed that Atheism was based on facts?


No I didn't. I was providing counter-examples to religious reasoning. Atheism is just a lack of belief. Just like how pixie-nonbelief isn't based on facts.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
For what you would call a, "Comfort Zone". Why not have some hope to be in a perfect place?


Because either way you're not getting the perfect place. Deluding yourself into that sort of false hope is the same type of thing that drives suicide bombers btw.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
Well, pixieism is not a real religion. I just used it to emphasize what i was saying. :p But how is a perfect world not a valid reason to believe?


Just because you can't disprove something it doesn't mean you should believe it. Just like how you shouldn't believe that dogs use telepathy to control major league baseball, even though you can't disprove it.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
The Bible. Written by disciples of God.


Wrong:
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Originally posted by KoCk View Post
For one thing, you don't know it isn't there, as you said above.


Yes, but that doesn't mean it's not ridiculous. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
What is that reason?


Simple. How many possible gods are there? Infinity. So what percent chance is it that your god is the correct one? 0.0000(infinite zeros)1. Which, by the way, means 0% chance because the one at the end can never be tacked on as long as there is an infinite line of zeros preceding it.

Originally posted by KoCk View Post
That may be true, but what sounds better and be honest. Eternal nothingness. Or eternal life in a perfect world?


What sounds better, eternal life in a perfect world or an infinite existence of euphoria? It doesn't matter because you're not getting either one.
10-29-2009, 11:27 AM #27
^^ Lack of belief isn't disbelief though.
10-29-2009, 04:41 PM #28
Ronye West
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Originally posted by zFuSioNz View Post
^^ Lack of belief isn't disbelief though.





Atheists believe in nothing. How can they have any belief..

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