Post: Should Scotland become an independent nation?
03-13-2014, 06:05 PM #1
punkybear2102
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Just wondering what you all think. I live in Inverness, Scotland and it's constantly being mentioned in newspapers and on TV, radio etc. People are voting this September on whether or not Scotland should be an independent country, if the majority vote is yes then Scotland will be completely seperate from the UK by March 2016 (not geographically, obviously). Personally, I'm completely against it, I don't feel Scotland will have a rich enough economy to sustain the current standard of living which is enjoyed while being part of the UK.
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03-13-2014, 07:14 PM #2
Joel
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Once they become independent, it's like life all starting over again. The country will need new currency made, the type of government system and how the laws are made.
03-13-2014, 08:02 PM #3
I don't mind, but that's because I'm British and it really doesn't effect me that much. I'd be worried if I were Scottish though, there are a lot of dumb people that just want independence for the sake of independence and don't care about the negative effects that it would have on the country.
03-13-2014, 10:28 PM #4
Novelette
The Anthem
Scotland is beautiful from what I've seen and heard from my friends' trip. But as the above posts mention, a lot of things will have to change/
03-13-2014, 11:42 PM #5
Joel
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Originally posted by Laim
Have you looked up on this at all? Currency stays the same, all laws are the same, most of our laws are done in Scotland anyway, not much would actually change...


I thought all that changes since I was studying African countries a while back and I did see things change once the country goes independent.
03-13-2014, 11:50 PM #6
Budz
Former Staff
Originally posted by punkybear2102 View Post
Just wondering what you all think. I live in Inverness, Scotland and it's constantly being mentioned in newspapers and on TV, radio etc. People are voting this September on whether or not Scotland should be an independent country, if the majority vote is yes then Scotland will be completely seperate from the UK by March 2016 (not geographically, obviously). Personally, I'm completely against it, I don't feel Scotland will have a rich enough economy to sustain the current standard of living which is enjoyed while being part of the UK.

Question, doesn't Scotland's economy run on some type of fishing or sea business? I remember reading an article on how Scotland's economy is strong with the UK from this and if they separate, the "sea business" will be owned by the UK? You're Scottish so it would be best to ask you Smile
03-14-2014, 06:26 PM #7
punkybear2102
Level 2 trustworthy
Originally posted by Budz View Post
Question, doesn't Scotland's economy run on some type of fishing or sea business? I remember reading an article on how Scotland's economy is strong with the UK from this and if they separate, the "sea business" will be owned by the UK? You're Scottish so it would be best to ask you Smile

Fishing means a lot to the Scottish economy, a lot of fishing is done in the North Sea (the sea between the UK and Scandinavia), commonly on the coast of a city called Aberdeen. The North Sea also apparantly (according to the ''Yes Scotland'' campaign) has billions of £ of oil which could make Scotland the richest country in the world. However I don't believe it and still think Scotland is economically better as a part of the UK Smile
03-15-2014, 01:20 PM #8
Originally posted by Budz View Post
Question, doesn't Scotland's economy run on some type of fishing or sea business? I remember reading an article on how Scotland's economy is strong with the UK from this and if they separate, the "sea business" will be owned by the UK? You're Scottish so it would be best to ask you Smile


Scotland's fishing industry is very strong in the North East of Scotland and further North in Shetland isles, if Scotland was to become independent Scotland would get the money made by the fishing industry in Scotland instead of the current structure where all money goes to the UK as a whole and in reality Scotland doesn't see much of the money made from it being pumped back into our regional economy.

Thought I would leave this here too. :p

"As an independent member state, Scotland will be negotiating
as one of the foremost and most respected fishing nations in
Europe. This status will give Scotland the opportunity to take
a leadership role in reforming the Common Fisheries Policy to
deliver fisheries management at regional and Member State
level and to keep Scottish quota in Scotland"
- White Paper


Originally posted by punkybear2102 View Post
Fishing means a lot to the Scottish economy, a lot of fishing is done in the North Sea (the sea between the UK and Scandinavia), commonly on the coast of a city called Aberdeen. The North Sea also apparantly (according to the ''Yes Scotland'' campaign) has billions of £ of oil which could make Scotland the richest country in the world. However I don't believe it and still think Scotland is economically better as a part of the UK Smile


Ehh, the Yes campaign has never claimed that the oil in the North Sea would 'make Scotland the richest country in the world'.
03-16-2014, 09:37 PM #9
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Independent Scotland would be a weaker Scotland.
Scotland would be forced to use another currency over the pound, likely the euro, but given the euro crisis is still raging who knows.
Could always peg to the pound but would be at the mercy of the Bank of England.
In order to make a currency work you need fiscal and monetary policy union along with a bank to be the lender of last resort.
On top of that it would be forced to enter into new talks about trade deals and joining the EU.
Of course that may be a good thing in the long term so long as Scotland does not over spend. Some nations which peg to a currency and have far more stable systems.
Spending would need to decline unless Scotland increased her tax base.

Given how Britains power has declined along Scotland would find it pretty hard to strike a deal quickly.
As a Petroleum state Scotland would be at the mercy of currency wars along with other issues against her in a global world due to being so small.
North sea oil is currently spending money to increase output but has a pretty low output.
Also Trident and current UK bases to work out a deal with.
And an assets to debt problem to work out.
03-16-2014, 09:55 PM #10
Ronye West
Anti-HSx9
They should go for it.. cut Scotland off from UK and watch the crime rate in UK drop by 50%

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