Post: Ashley Madison hacked
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07-20-2015, 04:47 PM
#1
UnknownKiller
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07-22-2015, 11:34 AM
#11
Ajax Blue
Bounty hunter
Originally posted by OM
It's gaining illegL acces with malicious intent, but sometimes doing things illegal is required to bring justice to people; the end justifies the means.
Sheer paradoxical nonsense. There's a moral dichotomy, and here's why - moral agents decide the ends. So what is the end? Exposure of adultery? Maybe the end is an invasion of privacy and exposure is consequential. Human privacy is paramount. Saying "the ends justify the means" is too much consequentialist gibberish to take seriously.
07-22-2015, 01:33 PM
#13
{OM}1337{OM}
Hurah!
Originally posted by Ajax
Sheer paradoxical nonsense. There's a moral dichotomy, and here's why - moral agents decide the ends. So what is the end? Exposure of adultery? Maybe the end is an invasion of privacy and exposure is consequential. Human privacy is paramount. Saying "the ends justify the means" is too much consequentialist gibberish to take seriously.
See it from the point of view of someone's partner who uses this site. Wouldn't you like to know if he/she is using it and confront them about it?. Is privacy still paramount when they are committing crimes? I woundnt think so, and I'm sure governments wouldn't have a second thought about their privacy (in general, not nessecary applying to this particular scenario). Another example, if a person is selling illicit drugs, soliciting illegal prostition or any other illegal activity, via TOR let's say where their identity is somewhat hidden, should their privacy be considered more important than the crime?
In the end a crime is a crime and both parties should be brought to face some consequence.
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07-22-2015, 07:07 PM
#17
Ajax Blue
Bounty hunter
Originally posted by OM
See it from the point of view of someone's partner who uses this site. Wouldn't you like to know if he/she is using it and confront them about it?. Is privacy still paramount when they are committing crimes? I woundnt think so, and I'm sure governments wouldn't have a second thought about their privacy (in general, not nessecary applying to this particular scenario). Another example, if a person is selling illicit drugs, soliciting illegal prostition or any other illegal activity, via TOR let's say where their identity is somewhat hidden, should their privacy be considered more important than the crime?
In the end a crime is a crime and both parties should be brought to face some consequence.
In the end a crime is a crime and both parties should be brought to face some consequence.
Adultery isn't a crime but yes, privacy is still paramount even when dealing with crime - a great number of cases have let the guilty walk on some charges because there was no issuance of a warrant. These hackers aren't personalizing it though. They aren't going to publicize millions of names. This is an information breach, a financial security risk and an invasion of privacy (namely Ashley Madison's privacy, more than the adulterers on the site). Affairs are between a person, their spouse and their conscience - no third party involvement.
07-22-2015, 07:31 PM
#18
Oneup
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Originally posted by Ajax
Adultery isn't a crime but yes, privacy is still paramount even when dealing with crime - a great number of cases have let the guilty walk on some charges because there was no issuance of a warrant. These hackers aren't personalizing it though. They aren't going to publicize millions of names. This is an information breach, a financial security risk and an invasion of privacy (namely Ashley Madison's privacy, more than the adulterers on the site). Affairs are between a person, their spouse and their conscience - no third party involvement.
Actually it is a crime. This also depends on where you live. In the USA the type of crime it is can vary from state to state,
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