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That's not the point here. The point is regardless if he stays or not, the girl can get the abortion without ever talking to him. They could be a married couple, even. The guy could be the greatest husband and father-to-be ever, but doesn't get to decide if he gets to see his blessing come to life. That's not fair. If I'm gonna have I child, I WANT to see him or her. If it's between a boyfriend and girlfriend, then who cares, it'd be the girlfriend's decision (I'm old-fashioned). A bastard child could be seen as solely the woman's responsibility if she so chooses. The marriage is a pact and commitment between the male and female to make these hard choices together. The fact that a male's role in the family is not taken into account is ridiculous. On that note, I'm fully pro-life (unless the fetus was created through rape, incest, or the mother will die if she gives birth; or other medical reasons), so, really, I'd rather the baby be born and given to a loving family who can't have their own children, than to have their precious life taken away. But, again, that's beside the point. A husband deserves to have a say in what happens to his future child.

I remember when I was about 8 and i pushed my sister while playing soccer and I got labeled 'Girl Basher' by her and her friends for about a solid 2 years or 3 and when she legitimate threw tv remotes and hard objects at me , I never considered it anything.

I personally don't believe in feminism, or masculism. I am for gender equality. I personally don't believe that women are more important than men, or vice versa. Personally I believe that men and women are equal in terms of how we should be treated. Now there are obvious things such as men are generally stronger than women, and women are generally more gentle than men. These things are not what I'm talking about. I just replied to another thread and talked about sleeping around. In today's society, if a guy came up to a group of guys and said "I've gotten laid everyday this week!" then they would generally congratulate him, admire him, or whatever you would call it. Now say a girl came up to a group of girls and said the same thing. She would be shamed, put down, and deemed a slut. That isn't right, nor is it fair. Society has so many double standards when it comes to dealing with genders. It aggravates me. Personally, my three best friends are girls and I treat them no differently than I do my guy friends. Now yes this is because I am very close to them and I know I can trust them. However even when it comes to new girls in my life, unless I have feelings for them/find them attractive, I treat them just the same as any of my guy friends.

Now that does open up a separate discussion. What about when you are attracted to the other person? How does that play into gender equality? For me, I do treat the girl better that I would most people. Being polite, opening doors and holding them, you know what I mean. Being chivalrous. That being said, if I were gay, I imagine I'd be treating the guy better than I do other guys as well. Although I have no way of proving that statement, I like to think that it is true.