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03-25-2016, 12:54 PM
#20
Octolus
I defeated!
Originally posted by Passion
Watch it lol.
I cba to discuss the topic because it will lead to nowhere, you'll just use google against me >_<
I cba to discuss the topic because it will lead to nowhere, you'll just use google against me >_<
Google and my own thoughts yes.
If you were to follow the Quran, word by word. You would end up with ISIS, and Sharia Laws. Sharia law it self is horrific, no humanity, doesn't allow woman to educate them self or nothing.
Whatever you, or that other guy will try to defend saying it's not the Quran. Then do a little research, because you are muslim (naxing) doesn't mean you know everything about Islam or the Quran. There are websites, where you can read the Quran online. If you do a little more research, you'll most, if not all sharia punishments in the Quran.
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03-25-2016, 12:55 PM
#21
Passion
League Champion
Originally posted by Octolus
Google and my own thoughts yes.
If you were to follow the Quran, word by word. You would end up with ISIS, and Sharia Laws. Sharia law it self is horrific, no humanity, doesn't allow woman to educate them self or nothing.
If you were to follow the Quran, word by word. You would end up with ISIS, and Sharia Laws. Sharia law it self is horrific, no humanity, doesn't allow woman to educate them self or nothing.
I don't follow the Quran word by word, because some stuff in it don't really make sense.
I live in a country with freedom, i could be a jew, christian if i wanted to but i choice to be a muslim.
03-25-2016, 03:27 PM
#22
ct1555
Keeper
Originally posted by Octolus
Google and my own thoughts yes.
If you were to follow the Quran, word by word. You would end up with ISIS, and Sharia Laws. Sharia law it self is horrific, no humanity, doesn't allow woman to educate them self or nothing.
Whatever you, or that other guy will try to defend saying it's not the Quran. Then do a little research, because you are muslim (naxing) doesn't mean you know everything about Islam or the Quran. There are websites, where you can read the Quran online. If you do a little more research, you'll most, if not all sharia punishments in the Quran.
If you were to follow the Quran, word by word. You would end up with ISIS, and Sharia Laws. Sharia law it self is horrific, no humanity, doesn't allow woman to educate them self or nothing.
Whatever you, or that other guy will try to defend saying it's not the Quran. Then do a little research, because you are muslim (naxing) doesn't mean you know everything about Islam or the Quran. There are websites, where you can read the Quran online. If you do a little more research, you'll most, if not all sharia punishments in the Quran.
You havent done no research you said all of this is stated in the Quran??? Where does it say this which chapter which paragraph. pleaae state where is says a muslim can marry a 9 year old. Which paragraph is it. You dont know shit. Your just another deluded individual. You forget isis is made up of a minority and the majority of muslims condone their actions. If a group of christians were to murder or slaughter people. Would that mean all christians are terrorists?
Is sad to see how the media is quick to flag a muslim as a terrorist when the other hand if a white person was to commit a crime it would be brushed under.
If you even did the littlest research into islam you will first stumble upon the 5 grounding pillars of islam. Please read them and incorporate into your brain and tell me where it says we as muslims are allowed to commit these attrocites.
Also if you look at people who have commited the acts in belguim. Do they look like practicing muslims too you?? Do anyone have them beards and is there any history they commit to their 5 daily prayers. No if you read the article you will notice they are gangster drug dealers on the run. High on intoxication. History of crime. How do they represent muslims???
03-25-2016, 04:15 PM
#23
Octolus
I defeated!
Originally posted by ct1555
Where does it say this which chapter which paragraph. pleaae state where is says a muslim can marry a 9 year old.?
Muhammad's wives or Wives of Muhammad were the thirteen women married to the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Muslims refer to them as Mothers of the Believers (Arabic: أمهات المؤمنين Ummahāt al-Muʾminīn). Muslims use the term prominently before or after referring to them as a sign of respect. The term is derived from Quran 33:6:
One of his wives was 9 Year old Aisha.
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Gangster, and drug dealers blowing them self up? Lmao what are you even saying. You don't need beard to be a Muslim or Extremism? The people blowing them self us is more than likely considered as heros in many muslim countries. They will now meet 72 Virgins!
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03-25-2016, 06:35 PM
#24
ct1555
Keeper
Originally posted by Octolus
Yes. There are "plenty" of Muslims standing against ISIS. But as we both know, it's not enough. If there was more, it would help. And why isn't there more?
Most of the Islamic countries hold big grudges against western countries.
The Quran, is a very very old one. The new Bible for example; was updated. Because everyone knows, that you can't live with words that was created 2,000 years ago. I think that's also a big issue with Islam, that the Quran is not updated and most likely will not be.
Stoning, Child Marriage and more in year 2,000? Come on, we have way more education than what they did 2,000 years ago. The world has changed.
Either way, "The Islamic State" is not any other religion, it's created within Islam and the muslims should be the ones fighting against it. If all the Islamic countries stood against it, they would never exist. Just like there is no terrorism in other religion.
People are escaping countries ran by Sharia Laws, to get some freedom.
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand.
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam
Seen several examples where Woman have been raped, they ended up getting stoned. For me, it's pretty obvious why ISIS, is in Islam and not other religions.
PS. Nobody should get offended from this, it's what the Quran says.
Most of the Islamic countries hold big grudges against western countries.
The Quran, is a very very old one. The new Bible for example; was updated. Because everyone knows, that you can't live with words that was created 2,000 years ago. I think that's also a big issue with Islam, that the Quran is not updated and most likely will not be.
Stoning, Child Marriage and more in year 2,000? Come on, we have way more education than what they did 2,000 years ago. The world has changed.
Either way, "The Islamic State" is not any other religion, it's created within Islam and the muslims should be the ones fighting against it. If all the Islamic countries stood against it, they would never exist. Just like there is no terrorism in other religion.
People are escaping countries ran by Sharia Laws, to get some freedom.
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand.
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam
Seen several examples where Woman have been raped, they ended up getting stoned. For me, it's pretty obvious why ISIS, is in Islam and not other religions.
PS. Nobody should get offended from this, it's what the Quran says.
Originally posted by Octolus
Muhammad's wives or Wives of Muhammad were the thirteen women married to the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Muslims refer to them as Mothers of the Believers (Arabic: أمهات المؤمنين Ummahāt al-Muʾminīn). Muslims use the term prominently before or after referring to them as a sign of respect. The term is derived from Quran 33:6:
One of his wives was 9 Year old Aisha.
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Gangster, and drug dealers blowing them self up? Lmao what are you even saying. You don't need beard to be a Muslim or Extremism? The people blowing them self us is more than likely considered as heros in many muslim countries. They will now meet 72 Virgins!
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One of his wives was 9 Year old Aisha.
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Gangster, and drug dealers blowing them self up? Lmao what are you even saying. You don't need beard to be a Muslim or Extremism? The people blowing them self us is more than likely considered as heros in many muslim countries. They will now meet 72 Virgins!
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Your response is pathethic. First and foremost you clearly have become disillusioned as to what i asked you. You say above " A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old" . Where does it say this. Which particular sentence of the quran does it say this?? Rather than answering the question it seems you gone off point. If you want to relate to acts and practices commited in the 1400s im sure I can draw up many vile and disgusting for the non muslims.
Secondly you made refernce to the quran 33:6. Have u even care to follow that up lmao take and look and see if its actually there. just goes to show your stupidity and sheer ignorance. Your like a blind sheep following the blind. God has given you brain and senses in order to allow you to seek knowledge. Either your brain doesnt work or your just too ignorant to look further into it. There is even an english transalated quran on the internet. Feel free to pursue through the same and see how many of your bullshit points are backed up.
It seems youv confused yourself so much youv created your own version of islam.
Ask yourself if islam is how you make it to be all about the raping, killing, ********* etc
Why is it the fastest growing religion today???
03-25-2016, 06:55 PM
#25
Kam
Investor - Future Millionaire
Originally posted by Octolus
Muhammad's wives or Wives of Muhammad were the thirteen women married to the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Muslims refer to them as Mothers of the Believers (Arabic: أمهات المؤمنين Ummahāt al-Muʾminīn). Muslims use the term prominently before or after referring to them as a sign of respect. The term is derived from Quran 33:6:
One of his wives was 9 Year old Aisha.
--
Gangster, and drug dealers blowing them self up? Lmao what are you even saying. You don't need beard to be a Muslim or Extremism? The people blowing them self us is more than likely considered as heros in many muslim countries. They will now meet 72 Virgins!
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One of his wives was 9 Year old Aisha.
--
Gangster, and drug dealers blowing them self up? Lmao what are you even saying. You don't need beard to be a Muslim or Extremism? The people blowing them self us is more than likely considered as heros in many muslim countries. They will now meet 72 Virgins!
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That was hundreds and hundreds of years ago. And, Islam is not the only culture to marry younger people. Back in the day of the time you speak of, lots of cultures had their kids married at a lot younger ages than what we deem acceptable today.
Also, if some Muslims decide to start terrorizing people and they happen to be Muslim, you do NOT paint the whole culture of Islam as terrorists. Not everyone is as bad as people speak of. Muslims are not the only terrorists. There have been people from different cultures happened to do this son. Yet, the whole culture of Islam was deemed as terrorists basically by the media and their public image and it is influencing the communication between Muslims and people communicating with Muslims.
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03-25-2016, 07:31 PM
#26
Octolus
I defeated!
ct1555, i am not going to discuss with you. You are starting with personal attacks, that's not how you discuss anything. Butthurt?
Yes, i think even the old bible and other religions allowed/wrote about child marriage like it was a normal thing before and even had it written. But those were updated, however Quran and many Islamic countries still allow this.
The question I am asking, is why are the terrorists choosing Islam and not any other religions?
Christianity is way larger, but where is the terrorism there? KKK?
Originally posted by Kam
That was hundreds and hundreds of years ago. And, Islam is not the only culture to marry younger people. Back in the day of the time you speak of, lots of cultures had their kids married at a lot younger ages than what we deem acceptable today.
Also, if some Muslims decide to start terrorizing people and they happen to be Muslim, you do NOT paint the whole culture of Islam as terrorists. Not everyone is as bad as people speak of. Muslims are not the only terrorists. There have been people from different cultures happened to do this son. Yet, the whole culture of Islam was deemed as terrorists basically by the media and their public image and it is influencing the communication between Muslims and people communicating with Muslims.
Also, if some Muslims decide to start terrorizing people and they happen to be Muslim, you do NOT paint the whole culture of Islam as terrorists. Not everyone is as bad as people speak of. Muslims are not the only terrorists. There have been people from different cultures happened to do this son. Yet, the whole culture of Islam was deemed as terrorists basically by the media and their public image and it is influencing the communication between Muslims and people communicating with Muslims.
Yes, i think even the old bible and other religions allowed/wrote about child marriage like it was a normal thing before and even had it written. But those were updated, however Quran and many Islamic countries still allow this.
The question I am asking, is why are the terrorists choosing Islam and not any other religions?
Christianity is way larger, but where is the terrorism there? KKK?
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03-25-2016, 07:35 PM
#27
Octolus
I defeated!
Originally posted by Passion
I don't follow the Quran word by word, because some stuff in it don't really make sense.
Yes, but there are people that does. And we're in 2016, the Quran was made thousand(s) of years ago - living by stuff made that time won't work out.
I have exactly same opinions about the old bible.
03-25-2016, 07:35 PM
#28
Kam
Investor - Future Millionaire
Originally posted by Octolus
ct1555, i am not going to discuss with you. You are starting with personal attacks, that's not how you discuss anything.
Yes, i think even the old bible and other religions allowed child marriage before and even had it written. But those were updated, however Quran and many Islamic countries still allow this.
The question I am asking, is why are the terrorists choosing Islam and not any other religions?
Yes, i think even the old bible and other religions allowed child marriage before and even had it written. But those were updated, however Quran and many Islamic countries still allow this.
The question I am asking, is why are the terrorists choosing Islam and not any other religions?
Actually, with the era we live in today, you find it rare. The lowest age that I've seen a Muslim woman get married at in this century is around 18-19, which is average like every other culture. It has changed tremendously from the time periods before.
What do you mean by choosing? Do you mean why most of the terrorists are Muslim?
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