Originally posted by Madison
So the EU referendum is fast approaching and the debate is really starting to heat up now and will no doubt continue to do so over the next 3 weeks. How are those of you here that are eligible to vote feeling, are you voting to remain, leave or still undecided?
I'll be voting leave, from what I've seen the EU does not benefit the small guy at all, the only people waving the remain flag are multi-national business leaders and other people with clear vested interests in Europe All the other countries and their leaders say remain but that's again only because Britain being in the EU is in their countries interest not our own interest, the more and more I watch debates and read articles, the position to vote leave becomes even more obvious and all the remain side does is use scaremongering to try to influence people, this week we've have Michael Gove and David Cameron both on televised debates and Cameron was absolutely destroyed, could not give a single decent argument to remain and Michael Gove came across strongly with convincing arguments to leave. Just finished watching the Express debate and again leave were far stronger refuting all the points remain brought up and again the remain side came across as either downplaying how strong the UK is or only being favourable for people that run a fucking business evidenced by the fact they had a young entrepreneur on the remain panel whose only interest was so they can trade easily with Europe and get cheap Eastern European workers which thereby drives down the wages of the low skilled British workers. I'd be interested to know if there's actually anyone here that is in favour of remaining, so far I've not met many people at my university with that position and a family member this week who was a devout remain supported changed side to leave this which honestly I thought I wouldn't see so it appears the tides are turning. Also leave is pushing ahead in the phone and online polls now too.
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Originally posted by another user
'll be voting leave, from what I've seen the EU does not benefit the small guy at all, the only people waving the remain flag are multi-national business leaders and other people with clear vested interests in Europe
Yet people who want us to leave don't have own interests in why we should leave?
EU benefits the small guy giving us economic benefits greater growth and wealth. This due to shared say on regulation and greater influence in the world. Lobbying does happen just like westminster but gain clear benefits.
Originally posted by another user
All the other countries and their leaders say remain but that's again only because Britain being in the EU is in their countries interest not our own interest
Only Russia wants us to leave the EU. Britain shares great deal of interests with other nations which why they want us to stay.
Originally posted by another user
, the position to vote leave becomes even more obvious and all the remain side does is use scaremongering to try to influence people,
Experts are explaining that leave and remain are more complex than you think.
Originally posted by another user
so they can trade easily with Europe and get cheap Eastern European workers which thereby drives down the wages of the low skilled British workers.
Domestic fiscal policy done more damage to wages compared to free movement.
And no evidence that it has driven down wages.
Would be careful with some of the promises of unicorns and candy from leave. Yet to hear an convincing argument to leave which does not offer false promises. Intent some of these politicians is worrying don't forget that Gove and Boris have gone to oxford.
Originally posted by Geo
I am 2 months off being able to vote.... If it had happened next year like originally rumoured to, I would have voted leave.
Originally posted by BurtE
I've been dragged into this, my mum signed me up earlier today
obviously voting to leave the eu
Originally posted by boutthatlife
Just to elaborate further on your comments, the bigger business are reaping in the profits and making a mockery out of the UK. companies such as google, apple, zurich etc
They make most of sales in the UK but when it comes to paying cooperation tax, they pay next to nothing/ zero tax due to them being registered else where in EU. Ie countries where there is a smaller bandwidth for tax or zero tax.
This is all because of EU rules whereby businesses are able to trade in other countries.
To help contine the smooth movement, the bigger companies then make these so called generous donations to the governement. All corruption (behind the scenes)
And in return the HMRC whom dont have testicular fortitude to go after these bigger companies come after the smaller business and the working class people threatening with action.
This is probably why all the top fse companies are with dodgy dave in the campaign to remain.
I for one will vote leave
If people don't want to hold the Government to account on domestic issues go ahead just don't cry about it. Most of these posts prove how politicians can screw people over and get away with it. Don't ask the right questions and question just listen to white noise instead of facts.