(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Alright, I'm from USA myself, I live here and I've been here for over 17 years. So I don't want any replies saying I can't say this, etc.

Anyways, is it just me, or is america getting f***ing stupid? We are in debt, in war, and this earth quake Haiti comes along, and then we start freaking aiding them? WTF. I fill sorry for them and everything, I seriously do. But I think it's bullshit when we are still way fking down in the economy, and we are in war.

America helps to much. The more we help, the more WE get screwed.

Yeh, when I say 50/50 I meant more along the lines as allies, not really "friends". To be honest, I'm not to fond of the English or the UK, but that's because I have ancesteral ties to Ireland and with the things that have happened in the past, and still echo today, I have a bit of a personal issue with it. That aside, I still recognize the UK, as well as France Germany Russia as allies because that's what they are in one sense or another. Each nation has it's own goals. In Europe, they have more and more been about the continent of Europe and it's countries with the EU. Still, those countries and this one have something in common politically, and we'll help each other out in a means to progress our own national agendas. In general, the hate and dislike between the allies is a cutural thing, and trust me, I respect the cultural dislike of the french and english more then I do most americans simply because most of america is a mindless mass that's only interested in shopping malls, SUV's, making everything baby-proof, HDTV, and sports. With that, you have to realize that even though that is a large part of America, they do not represent the vast amount of people that actually do care about the world problems, world relations. I'm not saying we're a majority, but it's by far anything of a small minority. In ways, I see America starting to wake up. Wait another 20 years as the young generation that is coming of age into positions of power and influence (people in their 20's) to get their agenda's for the country to influence the government. I still believe we have an influence because I see it on local levels in quite a few cities. For example, the city of Philadelphia for the past couple of decades has been a home of a lot of violence amongst the people, and corruption in many levels of government and law enforcement. It was truely in a sad state of affairs that left the city in huge debt. They have been taking strides the past 4 years or so to reverse the affects. What is causing this? Philadelphia the past 4 years or so has had a major influx of young people, educated people, that want to make their community better, and in the long run, their country better, and not just to fill their wallets, but to show that they want to become a shining of example of what is still good in this world.

So I don't take offense to your comments, because they are true. Still, I like to believe that on many levels people still respect us and see that we are trying to change. The last president really screwed us up, and the president before us though a good one, let some things slide and paved way for the previous one to really screw things up. I just hope that this president can harden up and face the challenges of re-establishing this country as a more respectable and still powerful nation.

As I said, there is a difference between hate from enemies, and dislike from allies. Hell, the Japanese make fun of us at almost every turn, but they highly respect us because in exchange for their work efforts of technology and such, we give them protection and financial backing. In turn, their technology and profits comes to us to use to become better in many levels of society to help us do more. Of course, our financial situation is not the greatest, but as a nation, slowly we are waking up. Things will change. It won't happen overnight, or even in a year. This will take several years. The change will be slow, and sometimes painful. Still, it will be worth it.

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Where is "here"? The USA itself? Even in one of the worst recessions in US history, the government still manages to provide the infrastructure with petro products, maintain the power grid, and provide a national defense with it's military. I'm not too favorable of the federal government, and I will speak out against it. However, to say they don't help it's own citizens is stupid, because it's a mutual relationship. The government exists because the people will it to exist, and the people exist because the government does what it has to do so that they may exist in they way of their choosing. Obviously, we all can't live the same way in a open capitalism country. There is still a class system in the USA, but unlike A LOT of other countries, people move in and out of those classes every generation. It's some crazy percentage too of people moving up and down. Say you had to divide the country up into 10 levels...1 being living in poverty (american poverty), 10 being say...just throwing a number out here 50million+ networth. 2 would be the middle lower class, 3 upper lower class, 4 lower middle class, true middle class, 6 upper middle class, 7 lower upper class, 8 upper class, 9 high upper class, 10 elite. the percentage of people moving out of the lower classes to the middle class from one generation to the next is roughly 40%. That's huge! From middle to upper is I think a shy over 20%. And the reverse is also true. people move down classes at roughly the same rates, it varies, but it pretty much evens out from generation to generation. This is really the only country in the world that this happens.

In short, you want help in this country? Ask the person in the mirror to work for it.

Sososo. I know someone mentioned it already, but I recall reading that thread as well.

I commend you, though. You've been living in the US for -6 years? Awesome.

Lol George Bush does have some chimp like facial features

It's really just a pointless argument all together. Everyone has their own view on the situations at hand. Everyone sees things from their own point of view. Just as everyone sees things in the way it is happening from where you are. Regardless of how the country itself is ran, each city has its own way of doing things.

Take the city I live in for instance. I actually work for the city. You would think that the common folk and the workers of the city would have some say so in stuff? Well, we don't. There's basically 4-5 dominant families which are weathier than the rest and happen to own huge chunks of land out here. I'm talking acres of woods/swamp even. Grazaffi.. Guarisco..Few others I can't quite get the spelling for so won't even attempt. They have ALL the pull and no one has any other say so in anything really.

Example:
Grazaffi - "Oh, let's blow 1mill making a new turning lane on this road here even though it clearly doesn't need it."

100s of common folk from the city - "That money could be used elsewhere which actually needs it, like having new sewer mains ran in certain places that are getting really bad." (I live in an area where we are slowly over time sinking. Lines are starting to get rediculous.)

Guarisco - "I think I like the turning lane idea better."

OK! It's settled, turning lane it is.


All I'm saying is - If you can't even be heard in your own city to have little things that over time will be big problems corrected, how do you expect things to happen else where. Those kinds of things are discouraging for some to even try. Don't get me wrong, I'm only 20. I refuse to even get started in politics because it's just rediculous. I'd rather be looked down on as a peasant than stoop to the levels of some people.

I agree with the first poster in this thread to a point. The country of Haiti relies on other countries to survive.

Direct quote: "The government relies on formal international economic assistance for fiscal sustainability."

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this means that all of the economy in Haiti is based on what other countries (mainly US) gives to them...

It's terrible what happened and I'm sorry for the loss that people are going through. The country still needs to pick themselves up and participate in the world economy as a sovergn nation should.

Have you seen the state of Haiti? Haiti's people are suffering 10 times more than America is at the moment. Not just in it's economy but there way of living, even before the earthquake struck. And your complaining about the US Government donating $100m to help aid them when they are suffering in an even worse state they were in before?

Everyone is retarded, the only .0000000002% of the population who isnt retarded have been to space! Bush and Obama are just scapegoats for stupid people.

I read the main posts and the ones on the last page, I'm like but idgaf. Wait till America gets its big ****ing natural disaster, then see where we are. We are in a depression and war but that doesn't mean we sit there and watch hundreds of thousands people die just because of that. If being a good person=retarded. Then yes, the President and the WHOLE country is made of ****ing idiots.

agreed. Poster #1 is the retard and probably will never experience a class 5 earthquake being that he is in Kansas and is too worried about a massive gust of wind blowing his farm town over. **Tangent**

The United States has done enough wrong to keep me pissed off for awhile Im happy to see my tax paying dollars help others, over its usual pocket $1's entering my senator strippers G-String money, eh?