Post: Blue/Black Lives Matter
01-11-2017, 08:22 AM #1
Frog
Gotta risk it for the biscuit
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I thought this would be a great discussion thread because there are a variety of stances and viewpoints individuals may have on here as this is a global forum with people of all races and colors. Essentially the topic is, how do you feel about these Black Lives and Blue Lives Matter movements? I'll drop my opinion on it below and then you guys can address whatever issues you want with it and whatever comes across your mind.*

My opinion: To put it blatantly, I can't stand this black lives matter bullshit. The Black Lives Matter is an opportunistic movement that only speaks or lashes out when it is in their best interest to. The best example of this is the recent Florida shooting where a black suspect shot and killed a Black female police officer with a husband and two kids. There was no message being spread by #BlackLivesMatter.. they could care less because there was no advantageous opportunity for them to lash out like they do when a white person is involved. Subsequently, the majority of these black lives matter cases are simple cases where the fucking idiot that was killed could and should have listened and not have escalated the situation worse than it needed to be. Although I will say that there are some bad apples out there in the officer community, I believe that 99% of police officers are going out there with positive intent to try and help their communities. I also am getting tired of seeing these hardworking men and women who are willing to put their lives out on the line every day for us citizens be treated and looked down upon as shit. No one ever forced them to join this line of work and most of them do become policemen and women because they went to set out and make a positive impact. I hope the media also stop perpetuating and spinning news stories to make them look bad in order for them to get publicity.*

To sum it up, I believe cops are being treated horribly in our country at this time and I feel like the black lives matter movement is only separating races in the US further apart. *
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01-11-2017, 05:45 PM #11
Jon Snow
Di DonDadda
Originally posted by Toke View Post
so you link some clickbaity fucking video. kek, why don't you give us some real life experiences of how you where and seen others being mistreated


Bro i live in new york where there millions of people and get pulled over atleast 3-4 times for the month (for the dumbest reason), and this happen all the time not just once.

I got cops searching my car without warrant/reason or permission, bro you wouldnt understand until you experience it which i doubt will ever happened, sometimes they even ask what i do for a living like why does that matter, but unfortunately for them i am not one of those ignorant dude who is going to argue with them all i can do is corporate.
01-11-2017, 05:47 PM #12
Jon Snow
Di DonDadda
And I am not saying i agree with the BLM movement becuase all that is going to is create segregation.
01-11-2017, 05:47 PM #13
Toke
PC Master Race
Originally posted by Jon
Bro i live in new york where there millions of people and get pulled over atleast 3-4 times for the month (for the dumbest reason), and this happen all the time not just once.

I got cops searching my car without warrant/reason or permission, bro you wouldnt understand until you experience it which i doubt will ever happened, sometimes they even ask what i do for a living like why does that matter, but unfortunately for them i am not one of those ignorant dude who is going to argue with them all i can do is corporate.


so getting pulled over, i get pulled over all the time and so do some of my friends outside of our county. and a cop asking you what you do for a living is bad? and nothing wrong with probable cause, you drive a g35 aka mostly known as a drug dealer car. just like how my friend drives a truck nothing like being in an emissions county and a cop asking to see how much smoke your truck blows to determine if he wants to give you a fix it or a actual fine. you got any other things that you think your treated differently about?
01-11-2017, 05:50 PM #14
Jon Snow
Di DonDadda
Originally posted by Toke View Post
so getting pulled over, i get pulled over all the time and so do some of my friends outside of our county. and a cop asking you what you do for a living is bad? and nothing wrong with probable cause, you drive a g35 aka mostly known as a drug dealer car. just like how my friend drives a truck nothing like being in an emissions county and a cop asking to see how much smoke your truck blows to determine if he wants to give you a fix it or a actual fine. you got any other things that you think your treated differently about?


G35 arent drug dealer car WTF stare
01-11-2017, 05:52 PM #15
Toke
PC Master Race
Originally posted by Jon
G35 arent drug dealer car WTF stare


don't try to change the subject, how are you actually treated differently by your peers of other races and ethnicity?
01-11-2017, 06:14 PM #16
Alt
Banned
Originally posted by Jon
Be Honest would you want to be treated like how African Amercian/Blacks and Hispanic are treated? Just a Simple yes or no.


They're only getting treated that way because they're making people treat them that way.

If a white person got stopped by the police and the police officer wanted to ask them questions, most white people give them the answers and off they go. (this happens not only with police but anything else).

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01-11-2017, 06:49 PM #17
Toke
PC Master Race
Originally posted by Alt View Post
They're only getting treated that way because they're making people treat them that way.

If a white person got stopped by the police and the police officer wanted to ask them questions, most white people give them the answers and off they go. (this happens not only with police but anything else).


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01-11-2017, 07:03 PM #18
Frog
Gotta risk it for the biscuit
Originally posted by Frosty View Post
BlackLivesMatter doesn't even stand for anything. There's no set goal in mind besides internal terrorism from America's own citizens. You've seen the race riots in Baltimore and Ferguson, and at the end of the day, the violence is terrorism, plain and simple (but the U.S. government only sees terrorist groups as threats if they are from outside the U.S.)

Terrorism's definition: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

And yet, would this not apply to hate groups such as KKK or Westboro? Are there corrupt cops? Sure, there's corrupt people in any line of profession (but more so politicians and executives), and these people get paid shit considering every day they go to work, they could be killed by a gangmember, have his home destroyed by a drive-by, be threatened and sued for racial discrimination -- to the point where many officers are scared to even life up their guns in avoidance of being racist. BLM is a means of deflecting from real and important issues affecting this country, and to help promote political agendas of the right-wing, namely Trump. If you keep bringing up evidence and footage of a minority acting violently or crudely, it only helps like-minded people to push for your desires. If all people ever hear about and see if the BLM, especially in areas with low black population, then they're more willing to push for the disenfranchising of that particular minority's rights.

What pisses me off about BLM is that when a black-on-white crime happens, the leaders of the "movement" do not see it as racially provoked. Many of us heard about the mentally-challenged man in Chicago who was tortured by four deplorable people, because of the color (or lack of color) of his skin and his political stance. This man more than likely didn't understand that he had voted in a racist, sexist bigot in the first place, the leaders of BLM among others didn't see this event as racially or politically motivated -- but the moment a cop prevents a black man from shooting a group of people, it's considered racism. In my opinion, BLM is a disgrace to what MLK went through to gain equality.

tl;dr the group is a terrorist affiliation, meant to deflect from real issues, leads to even more racism and disenfranchising towards blacks, and prevents police from being readily effective.

When you have violent rallies, kill police officers, only believe in black power, it causes harm to the minorities that actually want equality, and it doesn't help that what equality we have achieved over the decades will slowly fall away within the next 8 years of presidency.

/rant


You made some really good points, and I agree with most if not all of them. To add onto one specific point that you made, the fact of how if it went the opposite way of white people going out to protest black violence how all of those protestors would be deemed racist bigots. This double edged sword in society is really getting ridiculous and the fact that saying anything that may be seen as questionable by another race is worthy of being called a racist. I personally am sick of it and refuse to filter what I have to say.

Originally posted by STVBDKD View Post
How about ALL LIVES MATTER.


I'd love to be able to see everyone actually care about races other than themselves, but look around, it's so easy to find hatred and disgust towards other races. Honestly, if you gonna go on about "all white people are monsters" or "all mexicans are rapists" etc. you can personally go fuck yourself, your life doesn't matter to me.

Originally posted by Toke View Post
If I had a bullet for all the genders I would only need a double barrel shotgun

lol'd

inb4 triggered

Originally posted by Jon
Be Honest would you want to be treated like how African Amercian/Blacks and Hispanic are treated? Just a Simple yes or no.

I wouldn't mind, most of the races you listed above print their pain upon themselves. If you just cooperate and not put a camera right in a cops face and don't resist, 99.99% of the time you're not going to have a problem. I've been pulled over at gun point because I had a vehicle matching the description of someone that had just attempted murder. I was scared shitless and the cops were on edge but because I listened nothing happened and I walked away with no issues. It all just boils down to whether you're an asshole or not, cops deal with people that give them a hard time all day everyday and if you just cooperate and be respectful, most of the time they'll give you respect back.

Originally posted by Alt View Post
They're only getting treated that way because they're making people treat them that way.

If a white person got stopped by the police and the police officer wanted to ask them questions, most white people give them the answers and off they go. (this happens not only with police but anything else).


Exactly. Most of time theres a problem is when people insinuate a situation when there was never situation needed.
01-11-2017, 07:06 PM #19
Ben
Former Staff
Originally posted by another user
The Black Lives Matter is an opportunistic movement that only speaks or lashes out when it is in their best interest to. The best example of this is the recent Florida shooting where a black suspect shot and killed a Black female police officer with a husband and two kids. There was no message being spread by #BlackLivesMatter.. they could care less because there was no advantageous opportunity for them to lash out like they do when a white person is involved.


No shit, their whole movement is about police brutality by white policemen over black people. They had no reason to say anything because it wasn't what they're all about.

Originally posted by another user
To sum it up, I believe cops are being treated horribly in our country at this time and I feel like the black lives matter movement is only separating races in the US further apart. *


I'm white and I'm going to sound like a dreaded SJW (scary!!!) but let's face it, black people have been treated horribly for centuries and still do get treated like shit. Its understandable, maybe not excusable in some instances, that they revolt in the way they did in some cities. I also find it ironic to see white men outraged that people are being treated unfairly, now you know how it feels to be discriminated against.

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