Post: need some help
11-13-2010, 06:44 PM #1
SWED
Bounty hunter
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); well iv been trying for about 30 mins now and i cant seem to get him to blend in.. any suggestions? (i got it a little bit but not much)

also do you like it better with gradient map or no?

without:
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with:
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changed due to lighting =] (dis-like kills flow)
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thanks in advance =] BOOBIES:tits:
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11-13-2010, 08:23 PM #2
RS*_Depression
I’m too L33T
A few things. First, make the focal a bit smaller to get more of it in the tag. You normally want to try to get some of the shoulders of whatever your focal is, in the tag.

Then, the best way to get the focal to blend? Put some effects on top of it that fit in with the tag. Those fractals will do nicely.
11-13-2010, 11:19 PM #3
SWED
Bounty hunter
i just like what i did with the background its alot of smudging =] and thanks for the help ill be back in a bit with the new version
11-13-2010, 11:43 PM #4
RS*_Depression
I’m too L33T
Originally posted by SWED View Post
i just like what i did with the background its alot of smudging =] and thanks for the help ill be back in a bit with the new version


The background is good, but it's not just smudging, I can tell you right now. ^.^

But yeah, you also might want to get rid of that wireframe C4D, I have no idea why you threw that in.
11-14-2010, 12:20 AM #5
SWED
Bounty hunter
Originally posted by Depression View Post
The background is good, but it's not just smudging, I can tell you right now. ^.^

But yeah, you also might want to get rid of that wireframe C4D, I have no idea why you threw that in.


trust me without the wire frame it looks like crap hahaha like no flow ill post a version without it. and ya theres a smudged c4d =] i mite just post the background too lol
11-14-2010, 02:05 AM #6
RS*_Depression
I’m too L33T
Originally posted by SWED View Post
trust me without the wire frame it looks like crap hahaha like no flow ill post a version without it. and ya theres a smudged c4d =] i mite just post the background too lol


You should be able to make flow without needing any outside source. Depth, color, blending, lighting, smudging... all of these can add flow.
11-14-2010, 02:33 AM #7
SWED
Bounty hunter
ya i know that, but it just.. **** it ill show you lol

u owe me big im about to upload so much shit haha


no wireframe: (starting to like it more)
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background (dont mind the jaw its cuz the focal covers it, was focal that i smudge):
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background with no c4d covering:
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made the focal smaller to fit more for you Winky Winky
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and i think thats enough for rite now lol

p.s if u didnt notice i added a fractal to add an effect of like a spirt or soul
11-14-2010, 03:05 AM #8
RS*_Depression
I’m too L33T
Originally posted by SWED View Post
ya i know that, but it just.. **** it ill show you lol

u owe me big im about to upload so much shit haha


no wireframe: (starting to like it more)
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background (dont mind the jaw its cuz the focal covers it, was focal that i smudge):
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background with no c4d covering:
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made the focal smaller to fit more for you Winky Winky
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and i think thats enough for rite now lol

p.s if u didnt notice i added a fractal to add an effect of like a spirt or soul


A bit of a tip about focals...

When you use a person/anything with a face, you want the eyes to be going across the bulk of the tag. That is, you want the focal to be looking to the opposite end of the tag. Why is this? Because faces are the first thing that the human eye will look for as a focal, and they want to know what the focal is looking at. If you have the focal looking right off the edge, like you have here, it feels awkward. Do you see it?


Now, here's my suggestions on where to go from here. Feel free to ignore any or all of it:

First, I like what you did with the fractal in the focal's mouth. Keeping that the same, and not changing the direction of the focal's head, I'd say to move the focal to the opposite end of the tag (basically, put it on the left half in the same general position, maybe a few pixels closer to the center than it is now). This will fix a few things: Lighting (on the focal), Flow (now most of the effects are going in generally the same direction), and overall better placement for the focal.

Second, I'd like you to dull the giant white light you have. Compared to how dark the rest of the tag is, I think that amount of white is a bit much. Here are a few suggestions for how to fix it:
1. Fill the white space with a light color (like a yellow or orange similar to the one that you can see at the edge of the white) and set that layer to a very low opacity (3-8% I would say).
2. Duplicate what you have and smudge inward - use a fairly soft setting, and play around with the blend modes to try to get it to look like the white is fading out. Erase bad parts obviously.
3. Combine the two ideas - fill the white area with a solid color, and then smudge that to give it some texture, or erase a small hole in the middle and then smudge around that, outward just a bit.

As a final point, your colors are a bit all over the place. You might want to try using a gradient map to work on that, or a photo filter or just a blank layer filled with a solid color. You don't want it to be monochrome, but you want to keep it from being too chaotic.

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11-14-2010, 03:45 AM #9
The Low Key OG
still the same OG, but I've been low key
Originally posted by Depression View Post
A bit of a tip about focals...

When you use a person/anything with a face, you want the eyes to be going across the bulk of the tag. That is, you want the focal to be looking to the opposite end of the tag. Why is this? Because faces are the first thing that the human eye will look for as a focal, and they want to know what the focal is looking at. If you have the focal looking right off the edge, like you have here, it feels awkward. Do you see it?


Now, here's my suggestions on where to go from here. Feel free to ignore any or all of it:

First, I like what you did with the fractal in the focal's mouth. Keeping that the same, and not changing the direction of the focal's head, I'd say to move the focal to the opposite end of the tag (basically, put it on the left half in the same general position, maybe a few pixels closer to the center than it is now). This will fix a few things: Lighting (on the focal), Flow (now most of the effects are going in generally the same direction), and overall better placement for the focal.

Second, I'd like you to dull the giant white light you have. Compared to how dark the rest of the tag is, I think that amount of white is a bit much. Here are a few suggestions for how to fix it:
1. Fill the white space with a light color (like a yellow or orange similar to the one that you can see at the edge of the white) and set that layer to a very low opacity (3-8% I would say).
2. Duplicate what you have and smudge inward - use a fairly soft setting, and play around with the blend modes to try to get it to look like the white is fading out. Erase bad parts obviously.
3. Combine the two ideas - fill the white area with a solid color, and then smudge that to give it some texture, or erase a small hole in the middle and then smudge around that, outward just a bit.

As a final point, your colors are a bit all over the place. You might want to try using a gradient map to work on that, or a photo filter or just a blank layer filled with a solid color. You don't want it to be monochrome, but you want to keep it from being too chaotic.


Great work, man.:y:

You've done a great job helping him.
11-14-2010, 10:08 PM #10
Sir
Reeferlution
Originally posted by SWED View Post
trust me without the wire frame it looks like crap hahaha like no flow ill post a version without it. and ya theres a smudged c4d =] i mite just post the background too lol


I used the same render as you but i desaturated it and added a buttload of gradients and clouds. Here it is...

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