Post: Was GT5 hybriding a good thing or a bad thing?
04-23-2013, 04:27 AM #1
Misslehead
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04-24-2013, 12:00 PM #29
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Depends if you were using them online or not I guess. Personally I was using them offline so for me it was a bit of fun, but I can understand those who felt it was ruining the online experience.
04-24-2013, 12:51 PM #30
is a shame that GT5 unmodified can not play LAN,whith mods all is possible and we play on LAN with our modified cars without disturbing people playing online legal. this is my main reason I support not only the Hybrids, the overall mod
04-24-2013, 06:26 PM #31
This was definitely a double edged sword and I don't blame PD for taking active measures to prevent it. I will say that I, as a user loved the modding cars. I hadn't touched the game in over a year, just sick of the daily grind of XP (this is a racing game PD, not an RPG). I have 6 level 40 racers and my a-spec was in the mid 30's, and the hybriding enabled me to go further with the game than previously... making new realistic cars. On the other hand, you had people in online using completely goofy cars, with their suspensions set either waaaaay to low or high bouncing all over the track. Then you had the guys with the ludicrous HP multipliers going 600+ mph lagging up rooms.

I didn't do much hybriding, I had maybe 3-4 cars with HP multipliers and maybe 5 or 6 with chassis swaps. The whole money system in GT5 is TERRIBLE... seriously though, 20M max with the best/most iconic cars costing that much? That said, I did use the hack to give myself more money to buy up items, I shouldn't have to spam races to make enough money to buy 1 car, and I shouldn't cap out either.

All in all, PD brought this on themselves... they've over regulated from the start, first we were trading too many cars, then we were trading too expensive cars. It makes no sense that a seasonal event, which takes me 5 minutes to win can award over 1 mill while the level 40 24h enduro's give $500K and you basically have to rebuild the engine and chassis after each race... which cost over a mill for full racing cars. I can tell you this, I'm not buying GT6 on day 1 like I did with GT5, I'm going to have to do some reviewing before I go down that road, it's just too much of a time investment for such crap.

Hopefully this will help get more non-hack rooms filled, I'd love to see more GT500 rooms.

/rant
04-25-2013, 05:45 AM #32
i think PD did this update because they couldn't offer those things to us like dewinging, chasis, engine drivetrain swapping, etc. They did it because they want players on GT6, and because GT6 dosent have those features i think people will stay on GT5. its like moving a cow to a new pasture you see
04-26-2013, 05:59 AM #33
Originally posted by Xaosman View Post
I think naturally aspirated automobiles were quite nice to be honest, Even when I modded my cars, all I ever did was stance them or naturally aspirate them, But little kids and mindless teengagers kind of ruined the gameplay and (once you think about it) ruined all the fun, they are the ones to blame, I even knew it was a bad idea to race in seasonals with a modified car of any sort, but brainless people do not think twice, and that's what PD noticed, -sigh- it was a good run, I'll continue to modify my rides offline, I'll just wait until GT6, seeing as though this game is completely useless now to myself, and to the majority of these fine people in this forum. I bid you all adieu until next time, or until a work-around has been found.

It was a pleasure!


Can't see why anyone would dislike this, unless, you're one of those mindless teenagers I was talking about previously. haha.

---------- Post added at 05:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:52 AM ----------

Originally posted by Det0x View Post
Are you sure you know what you are talking about when you say "naturally aspirating them"? You don't N/A a car you can leave a car N/A meaning No turbo charging and super chargers....


And yes I do know what I am speaking of when it comes down to natural aspirations.

keeping it with slight modifications that are still within value of the stock crate assemblies given to the car you're working on,

Keeping it plain, simple, and almost stock. Still within definable naturally aspirated terms, Like, adding a turbo to a supra SZR.... (Non turbo 2J) you're still keeping the 2Jz, but you're adding a turbo that normally the car would not come with.

---------- Post added at 05:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:58 AM ----------

Originally posted by Det0x View Post
Are you sure you know what you are talking about when you say "naturally aspirating them"? You don't N/A a car you can leave a car N/A meaning No turbo charging and super chargers....


And yes I do know what I am speaking of when it comes down to natural aspirations.

keeping it with slight modifications that are still within value of the stock crate assemblies given to the car you're working on,

Keeping it plain, simple, and almost stock. Still within definable naturally aspirated terms, Like, adding a turbo to a supra SZR.... (Non turbo 2J) you're still keeping the 2Jz, but you're adding a turbo that normally the car would not come with.
04-26-2013, 06:18 AM #34
tomsss
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Originally posted by Xaosman View Post


And yes I do know what I am speaking of when it comes down to natural aspirations.

keeping it with slight modifications that are still within value of the stock crate assemblies given to the car you're working on,

Keeping it plain, simple, and almost stock. Still within definable naturally aspirated terms, Like, adding a turbo to a supra SZR.... (Non turbo 2J) you're still keeping the 2Jz, but you're adding a turbo that normally the car would not come with.


I'm sorry, but i do think you got the term "naturally aspirated" wrong. Adding a turbo to a non-turbo engine is called "forced induction". Think about it, the turbo, powered by the exhaust gases, spools up real fast to suck in air and forces it into the intake system.
In naturally aspirated engines, air is pulled into the intake via vacuum from the downward piston movement in the engine.

Making slight modifications to a stock engine, be minute or extreme, to me is simply called "tuning".
04-27-2013, 07:06 PM #35
Originally posted by tomsss View Post
I'm sorry, but i do think you got the term "naturally aspirated" wrong. Adding a turbo to a non-turbo engine is called "forced induction". Think about it, the turbo, powered by the exhaust gases, spools up real fast to suck in air and forces it into the intake system.
In naturally aspirated engines, air is pulled into the intake via vacuum from the downward piston movement in the engine.

Making slight modifications to a stock engine, be minute or extreme, to me is simply called "tuning".



When I said adding a turbo to a Supra SZR, it's still within definitive "natural aspirations" seeing as though almost all 2Jz's are turbo-injects, just not primarily that "model" of supra, Adding a turbo to an engine that originally came turbocharged is bringing it back up to its "naturally aspirated" specs, I know what naturally aspirated means, I'm not a dunce. I know when to call something modified or "tuned" as you would say, I gave the 2Jz what it originally came with in the first place. I'm sure you can find an arguable reason to say what I'm writing right now is wrong, whether it being the fact that even so this SZR wouldn't be naturally aspirated anymore by adding a turbo to it, but it's what it came with in the first place, therefor I personally think it's still within confines of said limits.
04-27-2013, 07:17 PM #36
DomtheBomb14
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Hybriding was a good thing for GT5, you got to make realistic cars, until these little kids started to learn how to hack and start making these ridiculously high HP cars with X1 chassis and engine doing 999mph, thats when PD had to step in. they shouldve just took those high HP cars down. i just updated to 2.12 and i was sick, i lost all my realistic hacked cars. for PD doing this... GT6 is not gonna come out for awhile
04-27-2013, 08:06 PM #37
Originally posted by Xaosman View Post
When I said adding a turbo to a Supra SZR, it's still within definitive "natural aspirations" seeing as though almost all 2Jz's are turbo-injects, just not primarily that "model" of supra, Adding a turbo to an engine that originally came turbocharged is bringing it back up to its "naturally aspirated" specs, I know what naturally aspirated means, I'm not a dunce. I know when to call something modified or "tuned" as you would say, I gave the 2Jz what it originally came with in the first place. I'm sure you can find an arguable reason to say what I'm writing right now is wrong, whether it being the fact that even so this SZR wouldn't be naturally aspirated anymore by adding a turbo to it, but it's what it came with in the first place, therefor I personally think it's still within confines of said limits.



"Naturally aspirated" means the engine doesn't have a turbo or supercharger etc.

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