Post: GT6 Game Physics Testing
04-30-2014, 09:03 PM #1
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Here are some videos (I can only add 2 so Ill link post where videos are posted when I can)



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11-06-2014, 05:49 PM #227
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Originally posted by hristo1026 View Post
Fuck you SiNiST3R fuck your mother fuck your father fuck your wife fuck your kids fuck neighbors fuck all relatives fuck your dog fuck your cat I will fuck every human or animal being that you have ever met in your fucking miserable life motherfucker
I will cut off your American Bully PitBull head like a fucking Islamic terrorist do you understand me motherfucker


Whoa take a breath. lol

Ahahahaha fuck that gave me a chuckle that rumbled my belly. Come on let it all out Kiddo. Attaboy

That's a lot of Fucking, make sure you lube up especially for my Father (yikes) lol but I'd stay away from my PitBull, you will be much less entertaining if he got ahold of you, there would be not much left of you for that matter lol


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11-09-2014, 06:17 PM #228
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Honestly I cant say what update was the turning point, but IMO cars in stock trim (full) are handling much more true to their real life counterparts. Its not all cars, mostly premiums, I've not really checked up on standards lol. Im just getting so much pleasure out of driving many cars completely stock. Im thinking of building a list of my favorite cars to drive stock so when I find the good ones I can share them.
11-10-2014, 02:53 AM #229
Originally posted by hristo1026 View Post
Fuck you SiNiST3R fuck your mother fuck your father fuck your wife fuck your kids fuck neighbors fuck all relatives fuck your dog fuck your cat I will fuck every human or animal being that you have ever met in your fucking miserable life motherfucker
I will cut off your American Bully PitBull head like a fucking Islamic terrorist do you understand me motherfucker


This still going? damn, its almost been a month.
11-10-2014, 03:50 AM #230
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Originally posted by iStonerHQ View Post
This still going? damn, its almost been a month.



Looks like the madness is over, and the same thing at GTP. At least somebody has been quiet here and there. Still the silly cry babies slamming fist and stomping feet talking about GT6 is unfinished and people haven't gotten what they paid for almost a year after release. People acting like couchies bitter because they think Kaz Lied to them "ohhh he liiiiied to me" lol maybe the hermaphrodites will finally just walk away from GT instead of saying they are walking away every time something new comes out that isn't what they personally want. Can they act any more like pissed off 16 year old girls? Im looking forward to legit modding and tuning my M4, getting a blacked out grill, & chin spoiler :-D
11-12-2014, 10:01 PM #231
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11-13-2014, 01:26 AM #232
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Your links say video was not found .
11-13-2014, 02:12 AM #233
SiNiST3R
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Originally posted by Mcrsmokey View Post
Your links say video was not found .


The vids from the OP I pulled off the tube because I was laughing at GTP a bit and basically being a bit of an ass, Im gong to re-shoot them keeping strictly to the facts
11-13-2014, 02:35 AM #234
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Oil Change Robbing PP Myth Busted

They say that changing the oil robs you of usable PP.

Originally posted by Motor City Hami
Oil Change – For a short term car, do not perform an oil change. It robs power at the same PP level.


The way this is proven is they take 2 of the same car, one they leave stock,the other they get an oil change then use the power limiter to bring the hp back to stock hp, and in doing so they show the car with the oil change and power limiter is 1 to 2 pp higher than the car that has not had the oil change.

Originally posted by Motor City Hami
Take any car and note the stock PP and HP levels (example: Scirocco R ‘10 at 438PP/252HP). Next perform an oil change and note the new PP/HP levels (Scirocco @ 445PP/265HP). Finally, use the power limiter to re-establish the car’s original PP level (Scirocco needs 94.5 power limiter to equal 438PP). The new HP rating for the Scirocco is now 250, a 2hp drop from stock (or 0.8% lower horsepower). I have tested this on many cars in GT6 and the average drop is a 1% horsepower loss.


The problem with this test is that the car with an oil change and power limiting does not have the same power as the stock car, it has more torque. It is the higher torque responsible for the pp difference. This shows issues with using the power limiter & doesn't actually show any benefit from not changing the oil on any car be it for short or long term use.

How is it possible he neglects to mention torque at all. He makes it out like the 2 cars have the same power but they do not.

What is CLEAR is that he is saying that getting an oil change robs power at the same PP level., but this is not the case

Its NOT the oil change robbing the PP its the Power Limiting..........

For example

The Abarth 500 stock has 133hp/133ft-lb @ 371PP

Oil Change Then with 95.8% Power Limiting

The Abarth 500 now has 133hp/140ft-lb @ 372PP

It would appear as though the car with an oil change is higher PP for no reason if you overlook the torque.

Take the Same 2 cars and build them to the same hp and tq and even though one car has an oil change and the other does not, they will have the same pp. You can even go so far as to have more hp on the car with an oil change but still less pp than the car without an oil change as long as the tq is lower.

Example 1
Abarth 500 with an oil change + Stage-1 Engine Tuning makes 153hp/151ft-lb @ 390PP

Abarth 500 with no oil change + Racing Exhaust & Isometric Manifold makes 154hp/147ft-lb @ 390PP

Example 2
Abarth 500 with an oil change + Racing Exhaust & Sports Computer makes 167hp/154ft-lb @ 400PP

Abarth 500 with no oil change + Intake Tuning, Stage 1 ECU & Sports Exhaust makes 166hp/161ft-lb @ 401PP

The Abarth 500 with an oil change has more hp and less PP than the Abarth 500 without an oil change

the pattern remains the same even with a Veyron

Example 3
Veyron '13 with an oil change and Sport Cat makes 1071hp/969ft-lb @ 651PP

Veyron '13 no oil change + Semi-Racing Exhaust & Isometric Exhaust manifold makes 1071hp/969ft-lb @ 651PP


If you use the Cheeser Power limiter tool you can manipulate the hp/tq balance, what will be better more hp or more tq is a whole other debate, the FACT OF THE MATTER HERE IS getting an oil change does NOT rob you of power at the same pp level.

Fake Ass Myth Busted

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Originally posted by Motor City Hami
So in the end, it has less power when you are finished with an oil change and power limiter.


No Moron, are you fucking retarded. In the end it has less power when you use the power limiter, POWER LIMITER moron, oil change has nothing to do with it, your just trying to make it out like you are not a fucking idiot for overlooking the obvious.

Originally posted by Motor City Hami
Post a tune already


Your welcome to post a tune here anytime to actually have a shootout, but you are a Pussy and at GTP you make sure to flag I'm back on GTP to get me banned before I school you. Anytime you want to build a MX5 to the Miata Spec I posted that is built to the SCCA Spec you race IRL I'll be happy to hand you your ass in your own car Snitch F4G. Stop running like a bitch every time I approach you for a realistic no assist shootout you fucking AssClown. You can't handle a real shootout with me pussy. Get realistic like no diff mods on a SCCA MX5 spec car and you run with your tail tucked covering up your vagina.

These guys drumb up fake as bullshit myths to legitimize their fake ass tuning style lol This is a way to get lower tq as their poorly set up car has issues putting power down exiting corners. Confirmed with the use of diff settings like 11/11/11 that is also to assist a poorly tuned car exit the corner easily requiring less driver skill on the throttle. Pedal mashing time Roflmfao.

If you see tuners using diff settings like 11/11/11 on RWD cars its a Red Flag the car is poorly tuned.

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11-13-2014, 03:34 AM #235
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Originally posted by Motor City Hami
The in-game description mentions that when lowering the car we need to add spring rate to make up for the shorter suspension travel. I think that lowering the car in GT6 also shortens the shock travel. This would take away up travel (i.e., hit a bump and the shock compresses, then on extension the tire stops before the chassis does). This condition would remove the tire from the road or at least unload it and reduce grip. So it may work to encourage rotation. Slam the rear of a car super low, drastically shorten the shock throw, stiffen the spring and lose a ton of up travel. That would cause a wheel to unload, especially the inside rear. Do not go too low on ride height.


If you go to the Data Logger and check your travel you will see that raising or lowering ride height does not change shock stoke distance at all until you hit the body as a limiting factor. Different to real life where the shock stroke would change as you change the ride height. IRL raising ride height reduces extension, but increases compression while lowering ride height increases extension while reducing compression. In GT6 there is a window where raising or lowering ride height make no impact at all on on stroke in both directions, but there is a point either raising or lowering where the body starts to restrict the shock from fully traveling. When it does though only one direction is limited, the other direction gets full travel.

Do you even test your theories out AssClown. Come to think of it if your testing is like how you tested oil robbing power then it makes no difference if you tested it or not

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