Oil Change Robbing PP Myth Busted
They say that changing the oil robs you of usable PP.
Originally posted by Motor City Hami
Oil Change – For a short term car, do not perform an oil change. It robs power at the same PP level.
The way this is proven is they take 2 of the same car, one they leave stock,the other they get an oil change then use the power limiter to bring the hp back to stock hp, and in doing so they show the car with the oil change and power limiter is 1 to 2 pp higher than the car that has not had the oil change.
Originally posted by Motor City Hami
Take any car and note the stock PP and HP levels (example: Scirocco R ‘10 at 438PP/252HP). Next perform an oil change and note the new PP/HP levels (Scirocco @ 445PP/265HP). Finally, use the power limiter to re-establish the car’s original PP level (Scirocco needs 94.5 power limiter to equal 438PP). The new HP rating for the Scirocco is now 250, a 2hp drop from stock (or 0.8% lower horsepower). I have tested this on many cars in GT6 and the average drop is a 1% horsepower loss.
The problem with this test is that the car with an oil change and power limiting does not have the same power as the stock car, it has more torque. It is the higher torque responsible for the pp difference. This shows issues with using the power limiter & doesn't actually show any benefit from not changing the oil on any car be it for short or long term use.
How is it possible he neglects to mention torque at all. He makes it out like the 2 cars have the same power but they do not.
What is
CLEAR is that he is saying that getting an oil change robs power at the same PP level., but this is not the case
Its NOT the oil change robbing the PP its the Power Limiting..........
For example
The Abarth 500 stock has 133hp/133ft-lb @ 371PP
Oil Change Then with 95.8% Power Limiting
The Abarth 500 now has 133hp/140ft-lb @ 372PP
It would appear as though the car with an oil change is higher PP for no reason if you overlook the torque.
Take the Same 2 cars and build them to the same hp and tq and even though one car has an oil change and the other does not, they will have the same pp. You can even go so far as to have more hp on the car with an oil change but still less pp than the car without an oil change as long as the tq is lower.
Example 1
Abarth 500 with an oil change + Stage-1 Engine Tuning makes 153hp/151ft-lb @ 390PP
Abarth 500 with no oil change + Racing Exhaust & Isometric Manifold makes 154hp/147ft-lb @ 390PP
Example 2
Abarth 500 with an oil change + Racing Exhaust & Sports Computer makes 167hp/154ft-lb @ 400PP
Abarth 500 with no oil change + Intake Tuning, Stage 1 ECU & Sports Exhaust makes 166hp/161ft-lb @ 401PP
The Abarth 500 with an oil change has more hp and less PP than the Abarth 500 without an oil change
the pattern remains the same even with a Veyron
Example 3
Veyron '13 with an oil change and Sport Cat makes 1071hp/969ft-lb @ 651PP
Veyron '13 no oil change + Semi-Racing Exhaust & Isometric Exhaust manifold makes 1071hp/969ft-lb @ 651PP
If you use the Cheeser Power limiter tool you can manipulate the hp/tq balance, what will be better more hp or more tq is a whole other debate, the FACT OF THE MATTER HERE IS getting an oil change does NOT rob you of power at the same pp level.
Fake Ass Myth Busted
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Originally posted by Motor City Hami
So in the end, it has less power when you are finished with an oil change and power limiter.
No Moron, are you fucking retarded. In the end it has less power when you use the power limiter, POWER LIMITER moron, oil change has nothing to do with it, your just trying to make it out like you are not a fucking idiot for overlooking the obvious.
Originally posted by Motor City Hami
Post a tune already
Your welcome to post a tune here anytime to actually have a shootout, but you are a Pussy and at GTP you make sure to flag I'm back on GTP to get me banned before I school you. Anytime you want to build a MX5 to the Miata Spec I posted that is built to the SCCA Spec you race IRL I'll be happy to hand you your ass in your own car Snitch F4G. Stop running like a bitch every time I approach you for a realistic no assist shootout you fucking AssClown. You can't handle a real shootout with me pussy. Get realistic like no diff mods on a SCCA MX5 spec car and you run with your tail tucked covering up your vagina.
These guys drumb up fake as bullshit myths to legitimize their fake ass tuning style lol This is a way to get lower tq as their poorly set up car has issues putting power down exiting corners. Confirmed with the use of diff settings like 11/11/11 that is also to assist a poorly tuned car exit the corner easily requiring less driver skill on the throttle. Pedal mashing time Roflmfao.
If you see tuners using diff settings like 11/11/11 on RWD cars its a Red Flag the car is poorly tuned.