Post: Sony WONT ban for the CFW
01-07-2011, 06:46 AM #1
Dylan_Owns
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Because look how popular it is.

NGU has had thousands of new members sign up recently, and NGU has made over a thousand dollars worth of donations in SIX DAYS.

There were 1697 users on yesterday.

This is all because of the CFW.

And that's JUST NGU, think of the people on other sites, the ones who got it through their friends etc. and it's not much of an overstatement to say that soon 10% of ALL PS3 users that have PSN will have the CFW.

Sony is in direct competition with Microsoft, especially with the release of Kinect and PS Move.

Do you REALLY think Sony can afford to lose 10% of their consumers right now?

UPDATE: So a lot of people are bringing up the whole "Piracy" thing...

Well, most of the people with the CFW only want it for MW2 lobbies, so that means that a very few percent of the people who get the CFW will use it for piracy.

On top of this, NOBODY has edited the lv2 and the kernel to allow the Backup Manager to be used, and chances are nobody is gonna be bothered to do it because nearly EVERYONE on this site just leeches.

Then theres the few people who will try, but won't be able to do it...

And then there's the odd couple who will try AND be able to...

Odds are if those few people manage to do that, and get the Backup Manager on PS3, they WON'T release it, why? Because although Sony most likely CAN'T patch the firmware, they CAN block the MD5 hash of the programs, and set a function to automatically IP ban any user running a program with that MD5 hash while on PSN. If they widely release it, there's more chance that Sony will introduce a check for that MD5 hash.

With that in mind, that means anyone going on PSN while running the Backup Manager CAN be banned, which would stop most people from using it.
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01-07-2011, 05:24 PM #29
Xcellerator
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Originally posted by TheLegislator View Post
Thats logically speaking, but technically speaking, The PS3 doesnt send Sony info about the firmware your running. This comes from me testing the PS3's game OS and i havent found any piece of software that sends Sony your firmware info. The only info the PS3 sends Sony is your "game ID" and maybe some other account related but im not completely sure.


You don't know that as not every single file in the PS3's flash has been decrypted and read.... just take a look at dev_flash/vsh/module
01-07-2011, 07:48 PM #30
xLew--
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sony ill do summin, what it is, im sure will be sly

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01-07-2011, 08:10 PM #31
DCLXVI
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What money does sony lose if we hack the ps3?
None
They only gain, so you're welcome sony Winky Winky
01-07-2011, 09:03 PM #32
MarioDaKid
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I don't think people would stop using their PS3 just because they can't hack it as easily.
01-07-2011, 10:08 PM #33
quigs
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Originally posted by jezza.boi View Post
Sony just might because theyre stupid.. After all they made hackers come and hack their console because they removed otherOS so you dont think they will ban us? Only time will tell the out come till then we dont know what tricks sonys got up their sleeves and such.


I love when people call multi-billion pound companies stupid
01-07-2011, 11:16 PM #34
Oh really, you think that Sony won't ban you because of how many users have visited a website? Well, to begin with, there are barely any people who have gone out to buy a PS3 yet because of this CFW release, because at the end of the day, the average joe consumer isn't going to hack their PS3 for homebrew, they want free games. Yet again, the average joe consumer is likely to buy a games console and buy games for it, because they know no better. Whilst there are a fair share of gamers and fairly techy people buying these devices, the majority have no clue what they are doing, so the CFW may result in a few more sales here and there for the console, but it won't be a dramatic increase. It's also extremely important to note that Sony makes very little to nothing on Console sales, and relies heavily on the sales of the games for its console. I will say one thing however. Sony won't ban anyone if no piracy comes of this. The entire point of providing "Other OS" was to give hackers something else to do other than hack the PS3. Once they decided that they wanted to start hacking the PS3, and started poking around with Backup Managers, Sony shut it down. PSJailbreak got lawyered to hell and back because not only did it infringe on so many patents, it explicitly stated "buy me for free games of the interwebz!" Furthermore, if we go back to the PSP hacking scene, especially in the early days, Sony was sending out Cease and Desists left right and centre because of the emphasised need and use of an ISO Loader. Honestly, Sony would have no need to bring the hammer down on Homebrew, BUT because this usually leads to Emulation, by law, they have to stop users from doing so, because those users are infringing on the Intellectual Property rights of other companies like SEGA and Nintendo (come on most of the emulators are for these systems :P).

Simply, what I mean to say is: The original post is EXTREMELY naive, and you need to get your head out of the dreamworld you seem to live in, Sony is a multi-billion dollar corporation that has been suffering losses for a few years in a row now, so I HIGHLY doubt they are going to be lax about losing sales in the Gaming Division, especially when it was only just starting to break even and make a profit.

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01-08-2011, 01:12 AM #35
JakeM
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I agree. Sony pretty screwed right now. I didn't mean to nominate I'm on my phone meant to hit thanks. But good point either way.
01-08-2011, 01:39 AM #36
CHuRCHYx
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Haven't Sony sold about 35 million PS3s? so if they can ban people, i seriously doubt they'd think twice about banning a few thousand people...And i guess i'll just have to buy another PlayStation :\
01-08-2011, 03:10 AM #37
jezza.boi
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Originally posted by quigs View Post
I love when people call multi-billion pound companies stupid


you dont think it was stupid for sony to remove otherOS?

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