Post: Sony WONT ban for the CFW
01-07-2011, 06:46 AM #1
Dylan_Owns
Master of teh internetz
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Because look how popular it is.

NGU has had thousands of new members sign up recently, and NGU has made over a thousand dollars worth of donations in SIX DAYS.

There were 1697 users on yesterday.

This is all because of the CFW.

And that's JUST NGU, think of the people on other sites, the ones who got it through their friends etc. and it's not much of an overstatement to say that soon 10% of ALL PS3 users that have PSN will have the CFW.

Sony is in direct competition with Microsoft, especially with the release of Kinect and PS Move.

Do you REALLY think Sony can afford to lose 10% of their consumers right now?

UPDATE: So a lot of people are bringing up the whole "Piracy" thing...

Well, most of the people with the CFW only want it for MW2 lobbies, so that means that a very few percent of the people who get the CFW will use it for piracy.

On top of this, NOBODY has edited the lv2 and the kernel to allow the Backup Manager to be used, and chances are nobody is gonna be bothered to do it because nearly EVERYONE on this site just leeches.

Then theres the few people who will try, but won't be able to do it...

And then there's the odd couple who will try AND be able to...

Odds are if those few people manage to do that, and get the Backup Manager on PS3, they WON'T release it, why? Because although Sony most likely CAN'T patch the firmware, they CAN block the MD5 hash of the programs, and set a function to automatically IP ban any user running a program with that MD5 hash while on PSN. If they widely release it, there's more chance that Sony will introduce a check for that MD5 hash.

With that in mind, that means anyone going on PSN while running the Backup Manager CAN be banned, which would stop most people from using it.
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01-08-2011, 03:12 AM #38
If they can they will! Lets face it 90% of everyone with CFW wont be buying any games or anything really..... Are Sony going to be making money from this 10% of PSN population? NO! Its way to early to say anything really, didint it take MS about a year to start banning people on the 360?
01-08-2011, 03:15 AM #39
Originally posted by Owns View Post
You wanna know why?

Because look how popular it is.

NGU has had thousands of new members sign up recently, and NGU has made over a thousand dollars worth of donations in SIX DAYS.

There were 1697 users on yesterday.

This is all because of the CFW.

And that's JUST NGU, think of the people on other sites, the ones who got it through their friends etc. and it's not much of an overstatement to say that soon 10% of ALL PS3 users that have PSN will have the CFW.

Sony is in direct competition with Microsoft, especially with the release of Kinect and PS Move.

Do you REALLY think Sony can afford to lose 10% of their consumers right now?


Think about it this way. If sony doesn't ban for custom fw then we will eventually figure out how to get the FTP server on our ps3's. Now once we do that we can start to pirate games. Now that it's easy and cheap, 9/10 people will end up pirating these games. Now the game companies aren't receiving any money so they stop releasing games for the ps3. Now without any games on the ps3 people start to buy other systems. Sony is now left without any users because there aren't any games being produced. Also, Sony will have a very bad name in the gaming business, so many companies wont release games for any of their future consoles anyway. At least with banning they'll still have a good name and have many users.
01-08-2011, 03:20 AM #40
Dylan_Owns
Master of teh internetz
Originally posted by FourzerotwoFAILS View Post
Think about it this way. If sony doesn't ban for custom fw then we will eventually figure out how to get the FTP server on our ps3's. Now once we do that we can start to pirate games. Now that it's easy and cheap, 9/10 people will end up pirating these games. Now the game companies aren't receiving any money so they stop releasing games for the ps3. Now without any games on the ps3 people start to buy other systems. Sony is now left without any users because there aren't any games being produced. Also, Sony will have a very bad name in the gaming business, so many companies wont release games for any of their future consoles anyway. At least with banning they'll still have a good name and have many users.


Can't Sony just update the PSN servers so that you can't sign into PSN while running games if the games boot from the HDD instead of the disc?

And we still need Backup Manager to pirate games don't we? And we can't get Backup Manager until GeoHot releases his FW, which he may not even release, since he's AGAINST piracy...
01-08-2011, 03:24 AM #41
Originally posted by Owns View Post
Can't Sony just update the PSN servers so that you can't sign into PSN while running games if the games boot from the HDD instead of the disc?

And we still need Backup Manager to pirate games don't we? And we can't get Backup Manager until GeoHot releases his FW, which he may not even release, since he's AGAINST piracy...


That's the thing about booting games from the HDD. The playstation doesn't really know it's booting it from the HDD, that's why you need to have a game in the ps3 to be able to play it. Also, GeoHot isn't the only one that can hack. Eventually there will be people that find out how to get the backup manager on the ps3.
01-08-2011, 03:27 AM #42
Dylan_Owns
Master of teh internetz
Originally posted by FourzerotwoFAILS View Post
That's the thing about booting games from the HDD. The playstation doesn't really know it's booting it from the HDD, that's why you need to have a game in the ps3 to be able to play it. Also, GeoHot isn't the only one that can hack. Eventually there will be people that find out how to get the backup manager on the ps3.


I know that, I'm just saying, is there anyone who would go through the trouble of editing the CFW and modifying the kernel and the lv2, signing the Backup Manager, only to publicly release it?
01-08-2011, 03:33 AM #43
Originally posted by Owns View Post
I know that, I'm just saying, is there anyone who would go through the trouble of editing the CFW and modifying the kernel and the lv2, signing the Backup Manager, only to publicly release it?


Well, considering all the work that Fail0verflow and GeoHot went through to find Sony's signature suggest that there probably will be someone that takes the time to do this.
01-08-2011, 03:36 AM #44
Dylan_Owns
Master of teh internetz
Originally posted by FourzerotwoFAILS View Post
Well, considering all the work that Fail0verflow and GeoHot went through to find Sony's signature suggest that there probably will be someone that takes the time to do this.


Fail0verflow won't, they're strongly opposed to piracy.

And if anyone else takes the time to do it, chances are they won't release it..
01-08-2011, 03:42 AM #45
Originally posted by Owns View Post
Fail0verflow won't, they're strongly opposed to piracy.

And if anyone else takes the time to do it, chances are they won't release it..


I was't saying that fail0verflow would. I was saying that there are some people out there that are dedicated to this, like me. If I find it I'm definitely going to release it.
01-08-2011, 03:55 AM #46
arocc
Little One
Originally posted by FourzerotwoFAILS View Post
Think about it this way. If sony doesn't ban for custom fw then we will eventually figure out how to get the FTP server on our ps3's. Now once we do that we can start to pirate games. Now that it's easy and cheap, 9/10 people will end up pirating these games. Now the game companies aren't receiving any money so they stop releasing games for the ps3. Now without any games on the ps3 people start to buy other systems. Sony is now left without any users because there aren't any games being produced. Also, Sony will have a very bad name in the gaming business, so many companies wont release games for any of their future consoles anyway. At least with banning they'll still have a good name and have many users.


but why would devs stop making games for ps3? the xbox has had pirated games for years and i don't see them stoppingi doubt that the ps3 will die because of this

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