Post: [CLARIFICATION] Sony bricking your PS3
01-12-2011, 02:17 AM #1
0xFa1z
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That been said:

I have seen a lot of people talking about Sony releasing a new firmware update that will possibly brick your PS3. Well, i have something to say about this: Well as all of you may know, us jailbreaking our own purchased PS3's can actually benefit Sony's sells; how many kids out there probably went a head and bought new PS3 just because they knew it will be jailbreak-able or just because they could have "Cl's" on Modern Warfare 2. More thing that will prevent Sony from bricking our PS3's is that they cant brick something WE HAVE BOUGHT. They simply cant do that, i for one, will sue the fuk outta them if they do that, thats simple nonsense, plus we all have to remember Sony is a multimillion company, probably the best in the world when it comes to electronics (not sure about this). A third point is that jailbreaking and running your own custom code is actually LEGAL as it is LEGAL to jailbreak an iDevice. I hope this cleared some confusions, and thanks for reading Smile
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01-12-2011, 03:14 AM #11
SG-17
I am error
DarkAlex's (and his imitators) PSP firmware allowed you to run unsigned code on your PSP. Which is legal under the DMCA. Forging an official program signature however is illegal.
01-12-2011, 04:53 AM #12
legitmod
Gym leader
Originally posted by ipodtouch1234 View Post
Yeah a bricked console is not so much what I care about. A permabanned online console is almost worthless to me since I only play online games.
you can unban yourself if its per just call sony an you have to pay to get it unban..:bat:
01-12-2011, 04:58 AM #13
when u bought the ps3 u agreed to thier terms and conditions that they have and that includes all this hacking and stuff and if u try to temper with that that is a violation of ur agreement and yet they just banned u but if u go out n sue them ull get into bigger shit in court cause theyr gna pull out all these papers nfront of u that u agrred to and then u violated it and theyr gna sue u for false accusation n crap so good luck with ur sueing sony if they perma ban u because they have a reason.

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01-12-2011, 06:29 AM #14
realskillz
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Ok for everyone who thinks this is Illegal to jailbreak a ps3 i have two things for you....

First

Well look at that: it’s now legal to sell, advertise, and own any sort of PS3 Jailbreaking product in mighty Spain, the current European and world champions. A court in Barcelona made the decision, and it has much to do with Sony’s decision to eliminate the “Other OS” option of early PS3 firmwares, which allowed people to install Linux.

This is only the second most talked about story in Spain today, the most talked about story being that Cristiano Ronaldo apparently hates Iker Casillas. Team spirit, etc.

Worse for Sony is that it now has to pay all the associated legal costs of the retailers it targeted for selling Jailbreak devices up until this ruling. Terribly constructed sentence, yes, but the point is that Sony now has to pay other folks’ legal bills. That’s not fun.

Please note that the decision can be appealed, and Sony has two days left in which to appeal the decision. After that, Sony’s out of luck.

Of course, PS3 Jailbreaking products are ostensibly sold to give people the ability to back up their legally purchased software, but we all know what it’s really used for.

a Court named it Legal to Jailbreak a ps3 in spain.....

now secound

PS3 Jailbreak Found Illegal by Australian Courts

so two diff countries... Two Diff rules....so as it stands now

now as far as sony goes... sony has not once said you could not run homebrew... or said it was illegal to run homebrew... in the lawsuit against geohot and others the only thing they are bring the lawsuit over is this...what is bold and underlined at the bottom...

Defendants George Hotz, “Bushing,” Hector Cantero, Sven Peter and “Segher” (collectively, “Awesome faceefendants”Winky Winky are computer hackers.1 Working individually and in concert with one another, Defendants recently bypassed effective technological protection measures (“TPMs”Winky Winky employed by plaintiff Sony Computer Entertainment America LLP (“SCEA”Winky Winky in its proprietary PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system (“PS3 System”Winky Winky. Through the Internet, Defendants are distributing software, tools and instructions (collectively, “Circumvention Devices”Winky Winky that circumvent the TPMs in the PS3 System and facilitate the counterfeiting of video games. Already, pirated video games are being packaged and distributed with these circumvention devices. Declaration of Ryan T. Bricker In Support of Ex Parte Motion for Temporary Restraining Order And Order To Show Cause Re Preliminary Injunction; Order for Impoundment (“Bricker Decl.”Winky Winky ¶2, Exh. A. Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 65 and Local Rules 65-1 and 7-10, SCEA moves ex parte to put an immediate halt to the ongoing distribution of these illegal Circumvention Devices and avoid irreparable harm to SCEA and to other video game software developers stemming from video game piracy.

Defendants’ Circumvention Devices allow users to circumvent multiple TPMs in the PS3 System – including access control, encryption and digital signature protections – to enable use or playing of illegal copies of PlayStation®3 video games on the PS3 System.

so by that statement from sony... all they care about is if you play illegal copies of ps3 games.. meaning no back up manager... now if a court fits to make this legal to jailbreak so you can run homebrews but not do piracy... that could happen... as courts have made jailbreaking i phones and cell phones legal just voids any warranty... which is what i think sony should do.... is not ban just void the warranty and if your warrant is already out then oh well it wont matter any how..... now with that said Geohot is the one who Jailbroke all Ipads Iphone Ipods and did apple do anything to him no.... all sony is worried about as i said is running illegal copies of games.. that and their butt hurt over the fact that their un hackable system was hacked... I really dont think sony will brick your ps3 if your so worried about it just switch back to the ofw.. as it still runs all homebrew you already put on there...

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Originally posted by Different View Post
when u bought the ps3 u agreed to thier terms and conditions that they have and that includes all this hacking and stuff and if u try to temper with that that is a violation of ur agreement and yet they just banned u but if u go out n sue them ull get into bigger shit in court cause theyr gna pull out all these papers nfront of u that u agrred to and then u violated it and theyr gna sue u for false accusation n crap so good luck with ur sueing sony if they perma ban u because they have a reason.



well i hate to tell you this your full of shit..... you dont agree to anything when you buy it only when you sign up for the psn... and here are some terms of the psn

You must not cheat or engage in deceptive, fraudulent or misleading practices.

wow what dont cheat... last time i checked boosting and glitching is a way of cheating.... there for most every damn ps3 user has broke one term of agreement..

You must not phish for or harvest other users' account details or use or share another person's account, credit card or billing information.
oh what no filesharing... im pretty sure most every ps3 user once has filed shared something... another term of agreement broken


You must not use any unauthorised hardware or software to access or use Sony Online Services or make, or distribute unauthorised software or hardware via, or in connection with, Sony Online Services (including but not limited to cheat code software or devices that circumvent any security features or limitations included on any software or devices).

You must not modify or attempt to modify the online client, disc, save file, server, client-server communication, or other part of any Service or cause disruption to any account, system, hardware, software, or network connected to Sony Online Services for any reason, including to gain an unfair advantage in any Service.
( a little side note here.. hmm have we not been breaking this one since cod 4 if not before..)


You must not bypass or attempt to bypass any user authentication systems or security feature or attempt to hack or reverse engineer any code or equipment in connection with Sony Online Services (unless permitted by applicable law).


and this if for the hackers both of these... soo by there terms of agreement if they ban just once person and their reason is for homebrew or modded lobbies.... then you can bring up there terms and agreement... and everyone that file shares or cheats in a game at something.... and people who bypass too... so wow how many times have we broke the damn terms and agreement and not been banned... if they start now might as well ban the everyone on the psn because everyone at one point broke one of these.... and this can be used in a court of law against sony... if they ban one person you can sue them take them to court and ask about the millions who have also broke the terms and agreement and didnt get banned... sony then will lose the case and have to unban the person.... or ban millions of people on the psn and lose everything.

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01-12-2011, 06:51 AM #15
realskillz knows what he's talking about.
Especially in that last bit. If they win a lawsuit against Geohot, he can turn around and sue them for unfair punishment because of the massive amounts of users that have broken terms, but not been banned.

Basically, we win.
01-12-2011, 07:12 AM #16
Originally posted by RazloTheSeventh View Post
realskillz knows what he's talking about.
Especially in that last bit. If they win a lawsuit against Geohot, he can turn around and sue them for unfair punishment because of the massive amounts of users that have broken terms, but not been banned.

Basically, we win.


What you said would be just dandy.....Until sony just bans everyone.
>.> Doubtful but if sony wants to turn into a martyr and just cut the losses then we are skeeeeruuuueeeeed.
01-12-2011, 07:18 AM #17
Originally posted by Mastap14 View Post
What you said would be just dandy.....Until sony just bans everyone.
>.> Doubtful but if sony wants to turn into a martyr and just cut the losses then we are skeeeeruuuueeeeed.


True, but so are they.
At least half of PSN users have broken one or more of the terms at some point in time.
They'd have to take the time to pick all of those people out (costing them money), then ban them all (costing them MUCH MORE money).
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't stand for 50% of PSN users being banned all at once. There would be revolts, boycotts, etc..
01-12-2011, 08:01 AM #18
Originally posted by RazloTheSeventh View Post
True, but so are they.
At least half of PSN users have broken one or more of the terms at some point in time.
They'd have to take the time to pick all of those people out (costing them money), then ban them all (costing them MUCH MORE money).
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't stand for 50% of PSN users being banned all at once. There would be revolts, boycotts, etc..


Might sound kinda bad....But that would be kinda cool.
01-12-2011, 08:47 AM #19
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Originally posted by PWEE21 View Post
sony didnt do nothing they hacked the psp:bat:


Wasn't DarkAlex chased around for a while?

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