Post: Let me explain what im doing!!
05-24-2011, 04:07 PM #1
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Ok this is what im doing for the community:

A while back do you remember a team call fail0verflow they released a program call norr flasher

First, on to some of fail0verflow's new and recent tool updates. One such new tool, is the PS3 NOR flasher/sniffer. This is the tool that was used to flash AsbestOS, onto the demo PS3, at the recent Chaos Congress Lightening Talk. The app allows users to flash files directly to their PS3's flash. It also allows you to sniff the data going to and from the flash as well. Please note, this tool requires hardware wired directly to the PS3's NOR flash.You must login or register to view this content.

Another addition, which was recently added to the team's github, was an SPU emulator. The tool makes reversing SPU code much easier. Which in turn, will aid in the further understanding of the PS3.

The team has updated a few of their existing tools as well. Some people, have been reporting issues with fail0verflow's makeself tool. Well, the pleas did not go unanswered, as the team has updated their SELF signing tool with several fixes. However, the tool is still not working 100% correctly yet, but progress is being made.

In addition to this, they also updated their sceverify app, giving it support for spp files.

Decrypt Or Dump LV0 For 3.60 CFW+ Exploit – Mathieulh

@xShadow125 You can update from your pwn pup only from 3.55 or lower, unless you have an exploit.

@xShadow125 Of course that should be fixed in upcoming lv0 revisions anyway (By moving the ldrs to the top of lv0)

@xShadow125 You run the 3.60 lv0, then you switch the nor, and pull the cell reset line, and you dump the extra KBs where the loaders are.

@xShadow125 Basically you have a nor with 3.55 (or lower) lv0 and your own small lv1 code that does the dump, and 3.60 lv0 on the other.

@xShadow125 You wont get all of lv0 but the part with the loaders shouldn’t be overwritten.

@xShadow125 You can actually get all the 3.60 keys/loaders without knowing lv0 keys by dumping lv0 from ram with dual nor and signed lv1.

To those planning on building a 3.56+ pup for whatever reason, the files attributes changed, the group and user ids for the files as well.

The new 3.56+ values for tarballs are the following: owner_id, “0000764″ group_id, “0000764″ owner, “tetsu” group, “tetsu” ustar, “ustar “

You can use fix_tar to use those new values. Use with caution.

By comparison, those are the pre-3.56 values. owner_id, “0001752″ group_id, “0001274″ owner, “pup_tool” group, “psnes” ustar, “ustar “

@Ps3WeOwnYoU You need to either decrypt or dump lv0, then you can get the encrypted loaders and decrypt them with the metldr key. Good luck.

So, to decrypt this LV0 thing, we need to get to know it better. In the latest blog post by rms, he has explained briefly what LV0 is in the console’s security

Anyway, let’s really discuss something PS3 instead of my PC xD, let’s start with Lv0, the most unknown level of the PS3. Lv0 initializes PS3 base hardware such as PowerPC/PPU portion of Cell/BE, SPU isolation for asecure_loader, and gelic ethernet/WLAN device. Lv0 also proudly proclaims itself as the “Cell OS Bootloader”. In older firmwares, 0.80-ish to 3.56, Lv0 initialized SPU isolation on one of the SPUs, then it loaded and decrypted asecure_loader. Asecure_loader or metldr then decrypts the isolated loader, in this case, lv1ldr, then lv1ldr decrypts lv1.self. In 3.60 this changed. Lv0 now has all of the loaders integrated into it as one large fat binary. All the keys one needs such as Public ECDSA key/AES CBC key and Initialization Vector and ECDSA curve type are in there. Just go ahead and grab them if you can get the ldrs out of the binary.

So, unless you can decrypt Lv0, no 3.60 “CFW” for you . Is there any need for it anyway?

Mathieulh also has some facts to clarify about LV0

Quote:
1. lv0 isn’t a loader it’s a ppu binary

2. Lv0 isn’t encrypted per console and can be updated with the rest of the coreos

3. Lv0 is decrypted by the bootloader, there is no such thing as a lv0ldr.

4. The bootloader keys cannot be updated/modified on EXISTING hardware

5. lv0.2 is NOT a binary, it’s a new metadata for lv0 which is to be decrypted and verified by a new bootloader (which is to be available on future ps3s), it is NOT used by the current bootloader (and thus in current playstation 3 consoles)

But wait, messing with this thing could lead to the YLOD tragedy, unless you have those expensive NOR flasher you might want to proceed, and that’s according to rms again.

Quote:
Lv0 also does some more interesting stuff such as SPU mailbox handling, and eEID integrity checks. Lv0 also used to check for QA flag and proper token, that is now in a spu isolated self in Core OS. Now, if you did tamper with eEID, lv0 will panic out, and your console will then “YLOD”, and you’d need a flasher for your PS3 to recover <--- TAKE ALOOK HERE!!! BUT WAIT I SEE A POST ON TWITTER BY MATH!!!

Originally Posted by Slynk View Post
Also, I honestly don't know if this is helpful or not but here's the register dump from the spu:



There's 127 registers but the rest are 00ed out.
FINALLY ! Someone doing some reverse !

/me runs to buy a bottle of champagne.
Reply With Quote

Mathieulh is using a norr flasher and doing reverse engineering to make cfw to decrypt LV0!!

hope this explain's well to you lot!!!!
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05-24-2011, 04:17 PM #2
Swade
The Brain Named Its Self
Originally posted by xxmcvapourxx View Post
Ok this is what im doing for the community:

A while back do you remember a team call fail0verflow they released a program call norr flasher

First, on to some of fail0verflow's new and recent tool updates. One such new tool, is the PS3 NOR flasher/sniffer. This is the tool that was used to flash AsbestOS, onto the demo PS3, at the recent Chaos Congress Lightening Talk. The app allows users to flash files directly to their PS3's flash. It also allows you to sniff the data going to and from the flash as well. Please note, this tool requires hardware wired directly to the PS3's NOR flash.You must login or register to view this content.

Another addition, which was recently added to the team's github, was an SPU emulator. The tool makes reversing SPU code much easier. Which in turn, will aid in the further understanding of the PS3.

The team has updated a few of their existing tools as well. Some people, have been reporting issues with fail0verflow's makeself tool. Well, the pleas did not go unanswered, as the team has updated their SELF signing tool with several fixes. However, the tool is still not working 100% correctly yet, but progress is being made.

In addition to this, they also updated their sceverify app, giving it support for spp files.

Decrypt Or Dump LV0 For 3.60 CFW+ Exploit – Mathieulh

@xShadow125 You can update from your pwn pup only from 3.55 or lower, unless you have an exploit.

@xShadow125 Of course that should be fixed in upcoming lv0 revisions anyway (By moving the ldrs to the top of lv0)

@xShadow125 You run the 3.60 lv0, then you switch the nor, and pull the cell reset line, and you dump the extra KBs where the loaders are.

@xShadow125 Basically you have a nor with 3.55 (or lower) lv0 and your own small lv1 code that does the dump, and 3.60 lv0 on the other.

@xShadow125 You wont get all of lv0 but the part with the loaders shouldn’t be overwritten.

@xShadow125 You can actually get all the 3.60 keys/loaders without knowing lv0 keys by dumping lv0 from ram with dual nor and signed lv1.

To those planning on building a 3.56+ pup for whatever reason, the files attributes changed, the group and user ids for the files as well.

The new 3.56+ values for tarballs are the following: owner_id, “0000764″ group_id, “0000764″ owner, “tetsu” group, “tetsu” ustar, “ustar “

You can use fix_tar to use those new values. Use with caution.

By comparison, those are the pre-3.56 values. owner_id, “0001752″ group_id, “0001274″ owner, “pup_tool” group, “psnes” ustar, “ustar “

@Ps3WeOwnYoU You need to either decrypt or dump lv0, then you can get the encrypted loaders and decrypt them with the metldr key. Good luck.

So, to decrypt this LV0 thing, we need to get to know it better. In the latest blog post by rms, he has explained briefly what LV0 is in the console’s security

Anyway, let’s really discuss something PS3 instead of my PC xD, let’s start with Lv0, the most unknown level of the PS3. Lv0 initializes PS3 base hardware such as PowerPC/PPU portion of Cell/BE, SPU isolation for asecure_loader, and gelic ethernet/WLAN device. Lv0 also proudly proclaims itself as the “Cell OS Bootloader”. In older firmwares, 0.80-ish to 3.56, Lv0 initialized SPU isolation on one of the SPUs, then it loaded and decrypted asecure_loader. Asecure_loader or metldr then decrypts the isolated loader, in this case, lv1ldr, then lv1ldr decrypts lv1.self. In 3.60 this changed. Lv0 now has all of the loaders integrated into it as one large fat binary. All the keys one needs such as Public ECDSA key/AES CBC key and Initialization Vector and ECDSA curve type are in there. Just go ahead and grab them if you can get the ldrs out of the binary.

So, unless you can decrypt Lv0, no 3.60 “CFW” for you . Is there any need for it anyway?

Mathieulh also has some facts to clarify about LV0

Quote:
1. lv0 isn’t a loader it’s a ppu binary

2. Lv0 isn’t encrypted per console and can be updated with the rest of the coreos

3. Lv0 is decrypted by the bootloader, there is no such thing as a lv0ldr.

4. The bootloader keys cannot be updated/modified on EXISTING hardware

5. lv0.2 is NOT a binary, it’s a new metadata for lv0 which is to be decrypted and verified by a new bootloader (which is to be available on future ps3s), it is NOT used by the current bootloader (and thus in current playstation 3 consoles)

But wait, messing with this thing could lead to the YLOD tragedy, unless you have those expensive NOR flasher you might want to proceed, and that’s according to rms again.

Quote:
Lv0 also does some more interesting stuff such as SPU mailbox handling, and eEID integrity checks. Lv0 also used to check for QA flag and proper token, that is now in a spu isolated self in Core OS. Now, if you did tamper with eEID, lv0 will panic out, and your console will then “YLOD”, and you’d need a flasher for your PS3 to recover <--- TAKE ALOOK HERE!!! BUT WAIT I SEE A POST ON TWITTER BY MATH!!!

Originally Posted by Slynk View Post
Also, I honestly don't know if this is helpful or not but here's the register dump from the spu:



There's 127 registers but the rest are 00ed out.
FINALLY ! Someone doing some reverse !

/me runs to buy a bottle of champagne.
Reply With Quote

Mathieulh is using a norr flasher and doing reverse engineering to make cfw to decrypt LV0!!

hope this explain's well to you lot!!!!


ummmm i see

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05-24-2011, 04:18 PM #3
Swade
The Brain Named Its Self
Originally posted by xxmcvapourxx View Post
Ok this is what im doing for the community:

A while back do you remember a team call fail0verflow they released a program call norr flasher

First, on to some of fail0verflow's new and recent tool updates. One such new tool, is the PS3 NOR flasher/sniffer. This is the tool that was used to flash AsbestOS, onto the demo PS3, at the recent Chaos Congress Lightening Talk. The app allows users to flash files directly to their PS3's flash. It also allows you to sniff the data going to and from the flash as well. Please note, this tool requires hardware wired directly to the PS3's NOR flash.You must login or register to view this content.

Another addition, which was recently added to the team's github, was an SPU emulator. The tool makes reversing SPU code much easier. Which in turn, will aid in the further understanding of the PS3.

The team has updated a few of their existing tools as well. Some people, have been reporting issues with fail0verflow's makeself tool. Well, the pleas did not go unanswered, as the team has updated their SELF signing tool with several fixes. However, the tool is still not working 100% correctly yet, but progress is being made.

In addition to this, they also updated their sceverify app, giving it support for spp files.

Decrypt Or Dump LV0 For 3.60 CFW+ Exploit – Mathieulh

@xShadow125 You can update from your pwn pup only from 3.55 or lower, unless you have an exploit.

@xShadow125 Of course that should be fixed in upcoming lv0 revisions anyway (By moving the ldrs to the top of lv0)

@xShadow125 You run the 3.60 lv0, then you switch the nor, and pull the cell reset line, and you dump the extra KBs where the loaders are.

@xShadow125 Basically you have a nor with 3.55 (or lower) lv0 and your own small lv1 code that does the dump, and 3.60 lv0 on the other.

@xShadow125 You wont get all of lv0 but the part with the loaders shouldn’t be overwritten.

@xShadow125 You can actually get all the 3.60 keys/loaders without knowing lv0 keys by dumping lv0 from ram with dual nor and signed lv1.

To those planning on building a 3.56+ pup for whatever reason, the files attributes changed, the group and user ids for the files as well.

The new 3.56+ values for tarballs are the following: owner_id, “0000764″ group_id, “0000764″ owner, “tetsu” group, “tetsu” ustar, “ustar “

You can use fix_tar to use those new values. Use with caution.

By comparison, those are the pre-3.56 values. owner_id, “0001752″ group_id, “0001274″ owner, “pup_tool” group, “psnes” ustar, “ustar “

@Ps3WeOwnYoU You need to either decrypt or dump lv0, then you can get the encrypted loaders and decrypt them with the metldr key. Good luck.

So, to decrypt this LV0 thing, we need to get to know it better. In the latest blog post by rms, he has explained briefly what LV0 is in the console’s security

Anyway, let’s really discuss something PS3 instead of my PC xD, let’s start with Lv0, the most unknown level of the PS3. Lv0 initializes PS3 base hardware such as PowerPC/PPU portion of Cell/BE, SPU isolation for asecure_loader, and gelic ethernet/WLAN device. Lv0 also proudly proclaims itself as the “Cell OS Bootloader”. In older firmwares, 0.80-ish to 3.56, Lv0 initialized SPU isolation on one of the SPUs, then it loaded and decrypted asecure_loader. Asecure_loader or metldr then decrypts the isolated loader, in this case, lv1ldr, then lv1ldr decrypts lv1.self. In 3.60 this changed. Lv0 now has all of the loaders integrated into it as one large fat binary. All the keys one needs such as Public ECDSA key/AES CBC key and Initialization Vector and ECDSA curve type are in there. Just go ahead and grab them if you can get the ldrs out of the binary.

So, unless you can decrypt Lv0, no 3.60 “CFW” for you . Is there any need for it anyway?

Mathieulh also has some facts to clarify about LV0

Quote:
1. lv0 isn’t a loader it’s a ppu binary

2. Lv0 isn’t encrypted per console and can be updated with the rest of the coreos

3. Lv0 is decrypted by the bootloader, there is no such thing as a lv0ldr.

4. The bootloader keys cannot be updated/modified on EXISTING hardware

5. lv0.2 is NOT a binary, it’s a new metadata for lv0 which is to be decrypted and verified by a new bootloader (which is to be available on future ps3s), it is NOT used by the current bootloader (and thus in current playstation 3 consoles)

But wait, messing with this thing could lead to the YLOD tragedy, unless you have those expensive NOR flasher you might want to proceed, and that’s according to rms again.

Quote:
Lv0 also does some more interesting stuff such as SPU mailbox handling, and eEID integrity checks. Lv0 also used to check for QA flag and proper token, that is now in a spu isolated self in Core OS. Now, if you did tamper with eEID, lv0 will panic out, and your console will then “YLOD”, and you’d need a flasher for your PS3 to recover <--- TAKE ALOOK HERE!!! BUT WAIT I SEE A POST ON TWITTER BY MATH!!!

Originally Posted by Slynk View Post
Also, I honestly don't know if this is helpful or not but here's the register dump from the spu:



There's 127 registers but the rest are 00ed out.
FINALLY ! Someone doing some reverse !

/me runs to buy a bottle of champagne.
Reply With Quote

Mathieulh is using a norr flasher and doing reverse engineering to make cfw to decrypt LV0!!

hope this explain's well to you lot!!!!


This is some very useful stuff, if I knew what most ment :\
just kidding, i do Awesome face
05-24-2011, 04:25 PM #4
Mr. Aimbot
¯\_(ツWinky Winky_/¯
Originally posted by xxmcvapourxx View Post
Ok this is what im doing for the community:

A while back do you remember a team call fail0verflow they released a program call norr flasher

First, on to some of fail0verflow's new and recent tool updates. One such new tool, is the PS3 NOR flasher/sniffer. This is the tool that was used to flash AsbestOS, onto the demo PS3, at the recent Chaos Congress Lightening Talk. The app allows users to flash files directly to their PS3's flash. It also allows you to sniff the data going to and from the flash as well. Please note, this tool requires hardware wired directly to the PS3's NOR flash.You must login or register to view this content.

Another addition, which was recently added to the team's github, was an SPU emulator. The tool makes reversing SPU code much easier. Which in turn, will aid in the further understanding of the PS3.

The team has updated a few of their existing tools as well. Some people, have been reporting issues with fail0verflow's makeself tool. Well, the pleas did not go unanswered, as the team has updated their SELF signing tool with several fixes. However, the tool is still not working 100% correctly yet, but progress is being made.

In addition to this, they also updated their sceverify app, giving it support for spp files.

Decrypt Or Dump LV0 For 3.60 CFW+ Exploit – Mathieulh

@xShadow125 You can update from your pwn pup only from 3.55 or lower, unless you have an exploit.

@xShadow125 Of course that should be fixed in upcoming lv0 revisions anyway (By moving the ldrs to the top of lv0)

@xShadow125 You run the 3.60 lv0, then you switch the nor, and pull the cell reset line, and you dump the extra KBs where the loaders are.

@xShadow125 Basically you have a nor with 3.55 (or lower) lv0 and your own small lv1 code that does the dump, and 3.60 lv0 on the other.

@xShadow125 You wont get all of lv0 but the part with the loaders shouldn’t be overwritten.

@xShadow125 You can actually get all the 3.60 keys/loaders without knowing lv0 keys by dumping lv0 from ram with dual nor and signed lv1.

To those planning on building a 3.56+ pup for whatever reason, the files attributes changed, the group and user ids for the files as well.

The new 3.56+ values for tarballs are the following: owner_id, “0000764″ group_id, “0000764″ owner, “tetsu” group, “tetsu” ustar, “ustar “

You can use fix_tar to use those new values. Use with caution.

By comparison, those are the pre-3.56 values. owner_id, “0001752″ group_id, “0001274″ owner, “pup_tool” group, “psnes” ustar, “ustar “

@Ps3WeOwnYoU You need to either decrypt or dump lv0, then you can get the encrypted loaders and decrypt them with the metldr key. Good luck.

So, to decrypt this LV0 thing, we need to get to know it better. In the latest blog post by rms, he has explained briefly what LV0 is in the console’s security

Anyway, let’s really discuss something PS3 instead of my PC xD, let’s start with Lv0, the most unknown level of the PS3. Lv0 initializes PS3 base hardware such as PowerPC/PPU portion of Cell/BE, SPU isolation for asecure_loader, and gelic ethernet/WLAN device. Lv0 also proudly proclaims itself as the “Cell OS Bootloader”. In older firmwares, 0.80-ish to 3.56, Lv0 initialized SPU isolation on one of the SPUs, then it loaded and decrypted asecure_loader. Asecure_loader or metldr then decrypts the isolated loader, in this case, lv1ldr, then lv1ldr decrypts lv1.self. In 3.60 this changed. Lv0 now has all of the loaders integrated into it as one large fat binary. All the keys one needs such as Public ECDSA key/AES CBC key and Initialization Vector and ECDSA curve type are in there. Just go ahead and grab them if you can get the ldrs out of the binary.

So, unless you can decrypt Lv0, no 3.60 “CFW” for you . Is there any need for it anyway?

Mathieulh also has some facts to clarify about LV0

Quote:
1. lv0 isn’t a loader it’s a ppu binary

2. Lv0 isn’t encrypted per console and can be updated with the rest of the coreos

3. Lv0 is decrypted by the bootloader, there is no such thing as a lv0ldr.

4. The bootloader keys cannot be updated/modified on EXISTING hardware

5. lv0.2 is NOT a binary, it’s a new metadata for lv0 which is to be decrypted and verified by a new bootloader (which is to be available on future ps3s), it is NOT used by the current bootloader (and thus in current playstation 3 consoles)

But wait, messing with this thing could lead to the YLOD tragedy, unless you have those expensive NOR flasher you might want to proceed, and that’s according to rms again.

Quote:
Lv0 also does some more interesting stuff such as SPU mailbox handling, and eEID integrity checks. Lv0 also used to check for QA flag and proper token, that is now in a spu isolated self in Core OS. Now, if you did tamper with eEID, lv0 will panic out, and your console will then “YLOD”, and you’d need a flasher for your PS3 to recover <--- TAKE ALOOK HERE!!! BUT WAIT I SEE A POST ON TWITTER BY MATH!!!

Originally Posted by Slynk View Post
Also, I honestly don't know if this is helpful or not but here's the register dump from the spu:



There's 127 registers but the rest are 00ed out.
FINALLY ! Someone doing some reverse !

/me runs to buy a bottle of champagne.
Reply With Quote

Mathieulh is using a norr flasher and doing reverse engineering to make cfw to decrypt LV0!!

hope this explain's well to you lot!!!!


tl;dr so cool :p
05-24-2011, 04:34 PM #5
GUESS_HU
< ^ > < ^ >
do you really think the majority of the ngu community would know how to do the hardware part to this? lol
still though good thread. maybe i should get back in contact with u over msn!
05-24-2011, 04:54 PM #6
TechMemphis
< ^ > < ^ >
Sadly i have no nor flasher or I would try it.... ps all this has been posted before however not collectively like this plus this has better explanation plus a bit at the bottom is new I believe? So plus rep for good organization, collective information, and explanation.... no source though?
05-24-2011, 05:38 PM #7
izyehboy
Treasure hunter
Originally posted by greenwolfe7 View Post
Sadly i have no nor flasher or I would try it.... ps all this has been posted before however not collectively like this plus this has better explanation plus a bit at the bottom is new I believe? So plus rep for good organization, collective information, and explanation.... no source though?


Source of what? That he typed it himself? You must login or register to view this content. is the source... And twitter Happy

Good stuff though... Is it soldering to the chip pins? I've read something like that somewhere:p
05-24-2011, 05:51 PM #8
Originally posted by izyehboy View Post
Source of what? That he typed it himself? You must login or register to view this content. is the source... And twitter Happy

Good stuff though... Is it soldering to the chip pins? I've read something like that somewhere:p
Yes it does it also get's you into hypervisor!

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