Post: The only way to downgrade from 3.65/3.61/3.60/3.56
06-07-2011, 02:54 PM #1
deroad
Little One
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Ok guys. as you can see, there are a lots of threads that talks about how to downgrade a ps3 with a fw 3.56+.
now all these threads are fake!
You CAN'T downgrade with an eternet cable.
You CAN'T downgrade with a usb, just because sony has patched the old downgrade method.
You CAN'T downgrade with a usb dongle with some "codes", because your ps3 only accept the master key to enable factory mode (once you are in this mode you can't return to normal mode)

the only way to downgrade is through an external dumper/flasher.
now this is an old video, but it show how to use an external flasher.



Now to downgrade you also need a backup of a previous firmware, made with a nor/nand dumper (in that video they used the same flasher to backup their nand).

another way (for NOR flashing) is this:

Originally posted by defyboy View Post
I built a flasher: You must login or register to view this content.

You can downgrade via this method but it involves patching out firmware hash checks in LV1


Before i was talking about why you can't downgrade with an ethernet cable or a usb dongle.
i will explain in details why:
(download this to follow my explanation *.PDF --> You must login or register to view this content. )
VirusTotal Scan:
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ClamAV 0.97.0.0 2011.06.07 -

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eTrust-Vet 36.1.8371 2011.06.07 -

F-Prot 4.6.2.117 2011.06.06 -

F-Secure 9.0.16440.0 2011.06.07 -

Fortinet 4.2.257.0 2011.06.07 -

GData 22 2011.06.07 -

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Microsoft 1.6903 2011.06.07 -

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VirusBuster 14.0.70.0 2011.06.06 -

MD5: 508b6d6de96b849bd43c9453a978fa8c

SHA1: 5b1e1965421ab2cf263557700d1da80ddd5df93a

SHA256: e928f9bdd7807fdad2ab5c70c3354ab91a57718ca1c06f0c22 fb69d8b583ba6d

File size: 181959 bytes

Scan date: 2011-06-07 14:09:42 (UTC)



now you don't need to read all and you don't need to know everything in the pdf.
Now look the pdf while you are reading this:
The PS3 Turns on.
your ps3 starts to do some thing, like execute the SysCon --> CellBE --> .. things.. --> lvl2ldr.
The lvl2ldr in the old FW, with the old jailbreak/downgrade method, executed an external code from a USB that sent the GameOS in test/factory mode.
when sony has patched this, they blocked the execution of an external code different than the factory mode code.
Now look at the bottom of the page (ON THE PDF) you can see that the filesystem is loaded after the lvl0ldr (Top of the PDF, after CellBE).
the network board is available for the ps3 just when the filesystem is loaded.
In some threads they talks about using an ethernet to dump things, but this is impossible, because the CellBE (i.e. CPU) starts reading the NAND/NOR, not the network board.

if i wrong something or something is incomprehensible tell me and i will re-write it again.
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Mr__Shalemari
06-09-2011, 07:32 AM #29
isnt that an old way though?
06-09-2011, 09:11 AM #30
deroad
Little One
Yes. It's an old way, but it works.
06-09-2011, 03:30 PM #31
deroad have u done this??(i mean have u tested it like having ur ps3 on 3.56 and flashing it this way??for downgrading)if so ur a beast...
and delfyboy its too for his blog and work.

ps: i saw on the delfyboy blog dat there were some guys trolling him around about his works etc like it was a shitty blog..with trash information...i was so sad about that....

ps2: i was wondering if 3.56+ Cfw didn't came out was because nobady have the exploit (maybe matthieulh have it) or because ps3 hackers were afraid of sony(because of seuing)...
so if they afraid why they dont release this in spain...in spain hacking ur ps3 its legal(just asking)
06-09-2011, 03:42 PM #32
deroad
Little One
i never downgrade, but i have a nand dumper for my xbox.
(i use my nand dumper for some test in my university)

they will never relase a cfw for 3.56+ ps3, just because it's impossible to calculate the new key.

here you can understand almost everything: You must login or register to view this content. (go to the paragraph: "Sony needs another Epic Save")
06-09-2011, 05:44 PM #33
txlonghorn97
Master Prestige, Shotgun zombies. Life complete
Originally posted by xNinjaMoDz View Post
OMG, I Hope There Will Be A 3.65 CFW Like 3.55 =D


what does that have to do with a downgrade?
06-10-2011, 12:34 AM #34
hey deroad..thanks for the reading was nice...but amm...u know...there will always be a way..its informatic its electronic..its not impossible...maybe calculating the new key its impossible or very close to impossible but there will always be an exploit there that can give us 3.56+ CFW or custom programs or realease all ps3s options. U think Mathieul dont have the exploit to have 3.65 ctw???
I think there will be always a fail on the system i thin it is there..ps3 isn't perfect WEEE CAN DO IT hehe i mean the whole sceane...i mean its possible...it can't be impossible...
U know im on 3.55 rebug...and im happy for that and its enough.and people who wants to ctw if they updated they just have to sell they ps3s and buy 3.55 and not its not to hard if u really want it and its worst it.but i want to see sony f.u.c.k up i want to beleive that there is someone capable to f.U.C.K the damn 3.56+ security and at the same time show the world the power of piracy hehe...not on bad way maybe im to demagogic...maybe im making contradicting my self but i hope dat just sony get **** up for soooooOoOOoOoOO many reasons.
sorry for mi bad english im french
06-10-2011, 04:55 AM #35
wardoc22
S.P.E.C.I.A.L
i swear, if someone else with less rep posts this, people will say "NO SHIT" or "Duh, useless, mods please close" or "GTFO noob".

5 buks on the table
06-10-2011, 08:18 AM #36
deroad
Little One
Originally posted by rasta31 View Post
hey deroad..thanks for the reading was nice...but amm...u know...there will always be a way..its informatic its electronic..its not impossible...maybe calculating the new key its impossible or very close to impossible but there will always be an exploit there that can give us 3.56+ CFW or custom programs or realease all ps3s options. U think Mathieul dont have the exploit to have 3.65 ctw???
I think there will be always a fail on the system i thin it is there..ps3 isn't perfect WEEE CAN DO IT hehe i mean the whole sceane...i mean its possible...it can't be impossible...
U know im on 3.55 rebug...and im happy for that and its enough.and people who wants to ctw if they updated they just have to sell they ps3s and buy 3.55 and not its not to hard if u really want it and its worst it.but i want to see sony f.u.c.k up i want to beleive that there is someone capable to f.U.C.K the damn 3.56+ security and at the same time show the world the power of piracy hehe...not on bad way maybe im to demagogic...maybe im making contradicting my self but i hope dat just sony get **** up for soooooOoOOoOoOO many reasons.
sorry for mi bad english im french


i don't know. i never talked to Mathieul. i talked two/three times with KaKaRoToKS for some things about psl1ght.
i never found any kind of glitch/exploit and i know that sony can easily patch hardware exploit with software.
the only 2 hardware exploit that i know are:
the a geohot glitch (the memory glitch for fat ps3)
the fail0verflow harware exploit

honestly the only thing that interested me in the custom firmware was Linux support.
06-10-2011, 11:04 AM #37
Thanks for u reply deroad!
(U article was really amazin i readed it 3 or 4 times because its have a lots of sources citation u know. when a lots of articles links pretty nice(i already sayed but it learned mi a lot))
And its nice to see devs or programmers or informatics guys like u are interested on linux support, and kind of fight for that(linux its awesome too).
I think there are exploits on 3.56+ firmwares its obvious(hahaha :S maybe im wrong hahaha)
And its very nice to see that u have talked to people like kakarotoks dat gived so much to ps3 scene and development...
Keep on fighting for what u beleive and keep becoming better and better deraod.
thanks for being accessible and taking the time to share the information and ur knowledge
sheers

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