Post: Permanent HDD decryption: graf_chokolo's ps3dm-utils
10-28-2012, 03:30 AM #1
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Back in CFW boom of 2011 after fail0verflow and GeoHot, graf_chokolo was implementing his linux HV kernel and PS3 Utilities. Due to the legal complications, graf released his Hypervisor Bible, and ended his reverse engineering. The tools were a W.I.P. thing on gitbrew, and never polished.

"ps3dm_sm set_del_def_encdec_key" was implemented to PERMANENTLY disable hdd/vflash encryption, and was successful but needed to have a patched syscall 9.

^This comes in handy presently, because it essentially allows the HDD to be viewed like USB Flash memory. If the dev's attempt patch process 9 and disable encryption, HDD swap can be performed and not need to be reformatted. This could even be seen in the next 4.xx Modified pup, but this would need to be brought back to the dev's attention.

tl;dr HDD will be swappable and viewable via SATA as unencrypted storage
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10-28-2012, 02:51 PM #11
CryptiK_
Who’s Jim Erased?
Originally posted by ericmeltz View Post
Not pointless at all, HDD still readable which there is flash brick. Backup game transfer is also quicker via SATA, not FTP

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Corrections-
1)ps3hddstudio not required, HDD is not even encrypted... It is like pugging in a USB
2)HDD removal is childplay, remove one screw and done... Console doesn't need to be opened (thus not voiding warranty)
3)FTP is nothing compared to decrypted HDD due to the ability to make it swappable



:srsly: Good point mate
10-28-2012, 02:54 PM #12
CryptiK_
Who’s Jim Erased?
Originally posted by Ownage
Yes, but this also requires you to have a CFW ps3, which most users no longer have and do not want to spend $300+ to get one. This would allow full decryption and otherwise able to view the HDD without having to have CFW.


That is true, but I was aiming more towards comparing the time it takes between the two methods.

But very good point my good sirDrack
10-28-2012, 05:33 PM #13
Originally posted by ericmeltz View Post
Not pointless at all, HDD still readable which there is flash brick. Backup game transfer is also quicker via SATA, not FTP

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Corrections-
1)ps3hddstudio not required, HDD is not even encrypted... It is like pugging in a USB
2)HDD removal is childplay, remove one screw and done... Console doesn't need to be opened (thus not voiding warranty)
3)FTP is nothing compared to decrypted HDD due to the ability to make it swappable


you do not understand modifying the system call is only done through hardware or cfw so it is completely pointless as you will have cfw and have all those options anyway :dumb: you can no do this on ofw without cfw or modifying using hardware i repeat so stating this is pointless cause you already have access using cfw you just need these enabled and why when you have a file manager and ftp access through cfw that reads already decrypted hdd sectors
10-28-2012, 05:44 PM #14
Originally posted by Ownage
Yes, but this also requires you to have a CFW ps3, which most users no longer have and do not want to spend $300+ to get one. This would allow full decryption and otherwise able to view the HDD without having to have CFW.


Exactly Ownage, graf intended this to allow HDD swapping and access to unencrypted memory. I am still baffled when people think HDD is the sole carrier of FW, and not the flash. People need to realize that 4.xx dual booting is only possible because of hardware nand/nor flashers.

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Originally posted by Selene View Post
you do not understand modifying the system call is only done through hardware or cfw so it is completely pointless as you will have cfw and have all those options anyway :dumb: you can no do this on ofw without cfw or modifying using hardware i repeat so stating this is pointless cause you already have access using cfw you just need these enabled and why when you have a file manager and ftp access through cfw that reads already decrypted hdd sectors


Remember these points then:

1) When a system with CFW that is not downgrade-able bricks, HDD data is lost.
2) Transfer speed will always be greatest via SATA not FTP, this is not disputable.
3) CFW Does not allow a HDD to be put into a different system and not need reformatting

So no, CFW does not have all of these options. YES, a Linux enabled CFW is required to disable the encryption, but once completed the HDD is swappable. Example, If and When dev's have the ability to create pseudo-retail packages run on OFW, a HDD with home-brew or any HDD stored information that can function in a non-patched environment will be useable. Re-Read if that didn't sink in. As you know CFW needs to be installed on 3.55, so while CFW may not be able to be installed on OFW, home-brew from Decrypted HDD's may be able to run.
10-28-2012, 06:49 PM #15
Originally posted by ericmeltz View Post
Exactly Ownage, graf intended this to allow HDD swapping and access to unencrypted memory. I am still baffled when people think HDD is the sole carrier of FW, and not the flash. People need to realize that 4.xx dual booting is only possible because of hardware nand/nor flashers.

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Remember these points then:

1) When a system with CFW that is not downgrade-able bricks, HDD data is lost.
2) Transfer speed will always be greatest via SATA not FTP, this is not disputable.
3) CFW Does not allow a HDD to be put into a different system and not need reformatting

So no, CFW does not have all of these options. YES, a Linux enabled CFW is required to disable the encryption, but once completed the HDD is swappable. Example, If and When dev's have the ability to create pseudo-retail packages run on OFW, a HDD with home-brew or any HDD stored information that can function in a non-patched environment will be useable. Re-Read if that didn't sink in. As you know CFW needs to be installed on 3.55, so while CFW may not be able to be installed on OFW, home-brew from Decrypted HDD's may be able to run.

yea when i posted that i forgot the fact you could technically send the hdd to another user for them to use since the ps3 wont reformat it

Edit: why is this thread getting thanks for you reposting this info btw ? you didnt come up with nor is it worth rep for its more of a request imo
10-30-2012, 12:35 AM #16
CentralModz819
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by Selene View Post
why is this thread getting thanks for you reposting this info btw ?


Someone is hating. :lol:
10-30-2012, 01:06 AM #17
Originally posted by kiyre14 View Post
Someone is hating. :lol:
hating seriously all he did was repost public information he also forgets when ftp reads the hdd its already reading decrypted hdd sectors the cell processor sends instructions and eventually will decrypt the required hdd sector to run the instructions , sony helped make the cpu and also put in this extra feature so is this better then cfw no not at all , its only good for those who want hdd view has that been tested whether it will allow file transfer and successfully run not to my knowledge and to mention this process will cost you at least $80 for a new hdd to have this done on or cost for shipping its easier to flash and downgrade for other os use and do it that way and then have cfw access
10-30-2012, 01:36 AM #18
Originally posted by Selene View Post
hating seriously all he did was repost public information he also forgets when ftp reads the hdd its already reading decrypted hdd sectors the cell processor sends instructions and eventually will decrypt the required hdd sector to run the instructions , sony helped make the cpu and also put in this extra feature so is this better then cfw no not at all , its only good for those who want hdd view has that been tested whether it will allow file transfer and successfully run not to my knowledge and to mention this process will cost you at least $80 for a new hdd to have this done on or cost for shipping its easier to flash and downgrade for other os use and do it that way and then have cfw access


I have personally owned 4 PS3's, three of which have been jailbroken or had CFW (still have 2, one on CFW). Are you really asinine enough to think I don't know about FTP? NOW, let me correct you once again.

-HDD Decryption applies to any one who is currently on CFW, or able to install CFW
-WHY would you need to buy an extra HDD?
-FTP IS SLOW, SATA IS FAST... Why wait 4 hours for 20GBs to transfer via FTP, when you can do so in less than 30 with SATA
-***E3 Flasher costs money too, and once flashed, what happens when some one runs out of space for games? They would need to buy a HDD any way***
-Tested? lol, can a mounted unencrypted disk be written to? Of course.
-HDD can go for 20-40$ (like 40GB-80GB) and this enables a user to purchase a HDD with disabled encryption, and still be able to modify hdd. So... HDD is cheaper and safe than flasher

I have tried my best to explain this to you. But you seem to not realize the benefits of this, but then again I never stated that this was meant for everyone Needa
10-30-2012, 09:20 AM #19
spudeeelad
I defeated!
Originally posted by ericmeltz View Post
-FTP IS SLOW, SATA IS FAST... Why wait 4 hours for 20GBs to transfer via FTP, when you can do so in less than 30 with SATA

Up until this point you were making sense. What the hell are you talking about? It has NEVER taken me 4 hours to transfer anything to via FTP, including full games 50% larger than 20GB (31GB to be exact), it took around 15 minutes. You must have a really crappy connection if it takes you that long.

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