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02-20-2011, 12:11 AM
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manster
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Geohot Update [21.02.2011]
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Originally posted by another user
First round of donations is closed
Thank you so so much for all of your help, things are looking up money wise. Expect to see a few more lawyers on my responses!
I have enough to cover my legal fees for the time being, and in the absolute worst case scenario, we don't want Sony getting it :-P
For now, the best thing you can do is spread the word
Let people know how Sony treats customers
Let people know Sony would rather sue than be proactive and try to fix the problem
Let people know about laws like the You must login or register to view this content. which stifle innovation, and don't do anything to fix the problems they were created to solve
Thank you so so much for all of your help, things are looking up money wise. Expect to see a few more lawyers on my responses!
I have enough to cover my legal fees for the time being, and in the absolute worst case scenario, we don't want Sony getting it :-P
For now, the best thing you can do is spread the word
Let people know how Sony treats customers
Let people know Sony would rather sue than be proactive and try to fix the problem
Let people know about laws like the You must login or register to view this content. which stifle innovation, and don't do anything to fix the problems they were created to solve
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Originally posted by another user
On the subject of a Legal Defense Fund
Read You must login or register to view this content., You must login or register to view this content., the You must login or register to view this content., and You must login or register to view this content. for updates on the case
Media, I need your help. This is the first time I have ever asked. Please, if you support this cause, help me out and spread the word.
I want, by the time this goes to trial, to have Sony facing some of the hardest hitting lawyers in the business.
Together, we can help fix the system
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content. Donations here are for legal defense ONLY
I checked with my lawyers before setting this up
If you have another substantial way to donate aside from money, let me know
tl;dr
Sony is lame, and is suing me for hacking MY OWN PS3. Help me own them in court
Sony are bullies
Sony doesn't care if what you did was legal, if they don't like it, they sue. Sony tried to You must login or register to view this content. for getting his AIBO to do non Sony approved tricks, making it apparent that they don't really care about piracy, they care about control. In (You must login or register to view this content.), Bleem was the winner on all counts, but the high cost of a legal defense shut them down. Fortunately, that suit helped set precedent on the legality of emulators. I would hate to lose this case due to resource starvation, and with the support of the masses, I won't. Lets turn the bully back on itself. This case has the ability to set a huge precedent for consoles and all closed systems to come. The other two should be begging Sony to back off.
Sony sued the wrong guy
I am an advocate against mass piracy, do not distribute anyone's copyrighted work but my own, do not take crap lying down, and am even pro DRM in a sense. For example, I believe Apple has every right to lock down their iPhone in the factory as much as they want, but once it's paid for and mine, I have the right to unlock it, smash it, jailbreak it, look at it, and hack on it. Fortunately, the courts agree with me on this point.
My PS3 goal has been to provide users a legitimate path to homebrew, which by the standards of You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content. (or, You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content.), is 100% legal. Sony does not even try to allege piracy or copyright infringement in this case, they allege I did things like play "super mario world, an unauthorized game" on MY PS3. And access MY PS3 in an unauthorized way. Who are they to authorize what I do with my taxed and paid for property?
fail0verflow's goal was even nobler than mine. They wanted to give you back a feature Sony You must login or register to view this content. stole, Linux on your PS3. It's shameful on Sony's part that they are being sued at all. If you have a problem with pirates, sue them, don't sue people who point out your shortcomings.
Why should I care about your personal legal troubles?
You shouldn't. For example, if I was taken to court for sex crimes in Sweden, I would never ask for donations. But this case isn't about me. Clearly I am not being sued because of something I have that Sony wants, I am being sued in order to send a message that Sony is not to be messed with. But if I(and all codefendants likewise) actually win this, we have the power to send a much stronger message back. That consumers have rights, and we aren't afraid to stand up for them.
Why should I trust you? I just saw you trying to rap battle Sony
My attempts at humor aside, I do take this whole matter very seriously. Again, it's not about me, I was on the verge of quitting this stuff last June, and I would hate to be the one who sets a reputation for hackers that all a company has to do is sue us and we back down. In fact, I want the opposite reputation set, that the more a company tries to abuse the legal system, the harder we rally back. I will be the first person in line on the launch date of the Xperia Play, and itching to get my hands on the Next GEOHOT Project.
Why did you wait until now to set this up?
I didn't want to be trigger happy, and thought the suit might go away quickly. Also, I had to consult with my lawyers about how to do this. It's been over a month, and it looks like this is going to be a drawn out case. I am in this for the long haul. I am very serious ethically when I take donations, for all iPhone work I only accepted after the fact, here after the fact is too late. Now I am pot committed so to say.
How much should I donate?
Put it this way, Sony has 5 lawyers, I have 2. I'd like to level the playing field, and really get some hard hitters in there. I have already racked up over 10k in legal bills; donate whatever you feel like. Leftover donations at the end of all this will be donated to the You must login or register to view this content..
What if I want to donate more than I feel comfortable sending through PayPal?
I'm excited! Email me, we'll figure it out.
Why doesn't the EFF fund this?
Ask them. They have offered to provide some legal help though, which is much appreciated.
Donate to help you, you're the reason I can't play Modern Warfare now…
No, I'm not. Kakaroto explains this really well You must login or register to view this content.. I have never played PS3 online ever. Frankly I'm amazed by the apparent ease with which these cheats were created, security 101, why is the security in the client anyway? I had no idea this would happen, and am in full support of the cheaters being permabanned from PSN.
I'm a poor college student, what can I do to help?
I feel you, don't worry. Spread the word. Let people know how you feel about what Sony is doing. Let Sony know how you feel about what Sony is doing.
What if SCEA tries to settle?
Lets just say, I want the settlement terms to include OtherOS on all PS3s and an apology on the PlayStation blog for ever removing it. It'd be good PR for Sony too, lord knows they could use it. I'm also willing to accept a trade, a legit path to homebrew for knowledge of how to stop new firmwares from being decrypted.
Why isn't SCEA trying to settle?
RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE...THEY POINTED OUT OUR SECURITY FLAWS...IM SO MADDDDDDDD...WAHHHHHH
Check out You must login or register to view this content.
Old index page for archival purposes You must login or register to view this content.
Contact Me
geohot ... gmail
Read You must login or register to view this content., You must login or register to view this content., the You must login or register to view this content., and You must login or register to view this content. for updates on the case
Media, I need your help. This is the first time I have ever asked. Please, if you support this cause, help me out and spread the word.
I want, by the time this goes to trial, to have Sony facing some of the hardest hitting lawyers in the business.
Together, we can help fix the system
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content. Donations here are for legal defense ONLY
I checked with my lawyers before setting this up
If you have another substantial way to donate aside from money, let me know
tl;dr
Sony is lame, and is suing me for hacking MY OWN PS3. Help me own them in court
Sony are bullies
Sony doesn't care if what you did was legal, if they don't like it, they sue. Sony tried to You must login or register to view this content. for getting his AIBO to do non Sony approved tricks, making it apparent that they don't really care about piracy, they care about control. In (You must login or register to view this content.), Bleem was the winner on all counts, but the high cost of a legal defense shut them down. Fortunately, that suit helped set precedent on the legality of emulators. I would hate to lose this case due to resource starvation, and with the support of the masses, I won't. Lets turn the bully back on itself. This case has the ability to set a huge precedent for consoles and all closed systems to come. The other two should be begging Sony to back off.
Sony sued the wrong guy
I am an advocate against mass piracy, do not distribute anyone's copyrighted work but my own, do not take crap lying down, and am even pro DRM in a sense. For example, I believe Apple has every right to lock down their iPhone in the factory as much as they want, but once it's paid for and mine, I have the right to unlock it, smash it, jailbreak it, look at it, and hack on it. Fortunately, the courts agree with me on this point.
My PS3 goal has been to provide users a legitimate path to homebrew, which by the standards of You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content. (or, You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content.), is 100% legal. Sony does not even try to allege piracy or copyright infringement in this case, they allege I did things like play "super mario world, an unauthorized game" on MY PS3. And access MY PS3 in an unauthorized way. Who are they to authorize what I do with my taxed and paid for property?
fail0verflow's goal was even nobler than mine. They wanted to give you back a feature Sony You must login or register to view this content. stole, Linux on your PS3. It's shameful on Sony's part that they are being sued at all. If you have a problem with pirates, sue them, don't sue people who point out your shortcomings.
Why should I care about your personal legal troubles?
You shouldn't. For example, if I was taken to court for sex crimes in Sweden, I would never ask for donations. But this case isn't about me. Clearly I am not being sued because of something I have that Sony wants, I am being sued in order to send a message that Sony is not to be messed with. But if I(and all codefendants likewise) actually win this, we have the power to send a much stronger message back. That consumers have rights, and we aren't afraid to stand up for them.
Why should I trust you? I just saw you trying to rap battle Sony
My attempts at humor aside, I do take this whole matter very seriously. Again, it's not about me, I was on the verge of quitting this stuff last June, and I would hate to be the one who sets a reputation for hackers that all a company has to do is sue us and we back down. In fact, I want the opposite reputation set, that the more a company tries to abuse the legal system, the harder we rally back. I will be the first person in line on the launch date of the Xperia Play, and itching to get my hands on the Next GEOHOT Project.
Why did you wait until now to set this up?
I didn't want to be trigger happy, and thought the suit might go away quickly. Also, I had to consult with my lawyers about how to do this. It's been over a month, and it looks like this is going to be a drawn out case. I am in this for the long haul. I am very serious ethically when I take donations, for all iPhone work I only accepted after the fact, here after the fact is too late. Now I am pot committed so to say.
How much should I donate?
Put it this way, Sony has 5 lawyers, I have 2. I'd like to level the playing field, and really get some hard hitters in there. I have already racked up over 10k in legal bills; donate whatever you feel like. Leftover donations at the end of all this will be donated to the You must login or register to view this content..
What if I want to donate more than I feel comfortable sending through PayPal?
I'm excited! Email me, we'll figure it out.
Why doesn't the EFF fund this?
Ask them. They have offered to provide some legal help though, which is much appreciated.
Donate to help you, you're the reason I can't play Modern Warfare now…
No, I'm not. Kakaroto explains this really well You must login or register to view this content.. I have never played PS3 online ever. Frankly I'm amazed by the apparent ease with which these cheats were created, security 101, why is the security in the client anyway? I had no idea this would happen, and am in full support of the cheaters being permabanned from PSN.
I'm a poor college student, what can I do to help?
I feel you, don't worry. Spread the word. Let people know how you feel about what Sony is doing. Let Sony know how you feel about what Sony is doing.
What if SCEA tries to settle?
Lets just say, I want the settlement terms to include OtherOS on all PS3s and an apology on the PlayStation blog for ever removing it. It'd be good PR for Sony too, lord knows they could use it. I'm also willing to accept a trade, a legit path to homebrew for knowledge of how to stop new firmwares from being decrypted.
Why isn't SCEA trying to settle?
RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE...THEY POINTED OUT OUR SECURITY FLAWS...IM SO MADDDDDDDD...WAHHHHHH
Check out You must login or register to view this content.
Old index page for archival purposes You must login or register to view this content.
Contact Me
geohot ... gmail
OLD :p
i downloaded geohot's website with HTTrack Website Copier and i found some interesting site in it:
from index.html You must login or register to view this content.
Originally posted by another user
On the subject of a Legal Defense Fund
Read You must login or register to view this content., You must login or register to view this content., the You must login or register to view this content., and You must login or register to view this content. for updates on the case
Media, I need your help. This is the first time I have ever asked. Please, if you support this cause, help me out and spread the word.
I want, by the time this goes to trial, to have Sony facing some of the hardest hitting lawyers in the business.
Together, we can help fix the system
You must login or register to view this content.
Donations here are for legal defense ONLY
I checked with my lawyers before setting this up
If you have another substantial way to donate aside from money, let me know
tl;dr
Sony is lame, and is suing me for hacking MY OWN PS3. Help me own them in court
Sony are bullies
Sony doesn't care if what you did was legal, if they don't like it, they sue. Sony tried to You must login or register to view this content. for getting his AIBO to do non Sony approved tricks, making it apparent that they don't really care about piracy, they care about control. In (You must login or register to view this content.), Bleem was the winner on all counts, but the high cost of a legal defense shut them down. Fortunately, that suit helped set precedent on the legality of emulators. I would hate to lose this case due to resource starvation, and with the support of the masses, I won't. Lets turn the bully back on itself. This case has the ability to set a huge precedent for consoles and all closed systems to come. The other two should be begging Sony to back off.
Sony sued the wrong guy
I am an advocate against mass piracy, do not distribute anyone's copyrighted work but my own, do not take crap lying down, and am even pro DRM in a sense. For example, I believe Apple has every right to lock down their iPhone in the factory as much as they want, but once it's paid for and mine, I have the right to unlock it, smash it, jailbreak it, look at it, and hack on it. Fortunately, the courts agree with me on this point.
My PS3 goal has been to provide users a legitimate path to homebrew, which by the standards of You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content. (or, You must login or register to view this content. You must login or register to view this content.), is 100% legal. Sony does not even try to allege piracy or copyright infringement in this case, they allege I did things like play "super mario world, an unauthorized game" on MY PS3. And access MY PS3 in an unauthorized way. Who are they to authorize what I do with my taxed and paid for property?
fail0verflow's goal was even nobler than mine. They wanted to give you back a feature Sony You must login or register to view this content. stole, Linux on your PS3. It's shameful on Sony's part that they are being sued at all. If you have a problem with pirates, sue them, don't sue people who point out your shortcomings.
Why should I care about your personal legal troubles?
You shouldn't. For example, if I was taken to court for sex crimes in Sweden, I would never ask for donations. But this case isn't about me. Clearly I am not being sued because of something I have that Sony wants, I am being sued in order to send a message that Sony is not to be messed with. But if I(and all codefendants likewise) actually win this, we have the power to send a much stronger message back. That consumers have rights, and we aren't afraid to stand up for them.
Why should I trust you? I just saw you trying to rap battle Sony
My attempts at humor aside, I do take this whole matter very seriously. Again, it's not about me, I was on the verge of quitting this stuff last June, and I would hate to be the one who sets a reputation for hackers that all a company has to do is sue us and we back down. In fact, I want the opposite reputation set, that the more a company tries to abuse the legal system, the harder we rally back. I will be the first person in line on the launch date of the Xperia Play, and itching to get my hands on the Next GEOHOT Project.
Why did you wait until now to set this up?
I didn't want to be trigger happy, and thought the suit might go away quickly. Also, I had to consult with my lawyers about how to do this. It's been over a month, and it looks like this is going to be a drawn out case. I am in this for the long haul. I am very serious ethically when I take donations, for all iPhone work I only accepted after the fact, here after the fact is too late. Now I am pot committed so to say.
How much should I donate?
Put it this way, Sony has 5 lawyers, I have 2. I'd like to level the playing field, and really get some hard hitters in there. I have already racked up over 10k in legal bills; donate whatever you feel like. Leftover donations at the end of all this will be donated to the You must login or register to view this content..
What if I want to donate more than I feel comfortable sending through PayPal?
I'm excited! Email me, we'll figure it out.
Why doesn't the EFF fund this?
Ask them. They have offered to provide some legal help though, which is much appreciated.
Donate to help you, you're the reason I can't play Modern Warfare now…
No, I'm not. Kakaroto explains this really well You must login or register to view this content.. I have never played PS3 online ever. Frankly I'm amazed by the apparent ease with which these cheats were created, security 101, why is the security in the client anyway? I had no idea this would happen, and am in full support of the cheaters being permabanned from PSN.
I'm a poor college student, what can I do to help?
I feel you, don't worry. Spread the word. Let people know how you feel about what Sony is doing. Let Sony know how you feel about what Sony is doing.
What if SCEA tries to settle?
Lets just say, I want the settlement terms to include OtherOS on all PS3s and an apology on the PlayStation blog for ever removing it. It'd be good PR for Sony too, lord knows they could use it. I'm also willing to accept a trade, a legit path to homebrew for knowledge of how to stop new firmwares from being decrypted.
Why isn't SCEA trying to settle?
RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE…THEY POINTED OUT OUR SECURITY FLAWS…IM SO MADDDDDDDD…WAHHHHHH
Check out You must login or register to view this content.
Old index page for archival purposes here
Contact Me
geohot ... gmail
Geohot we will help you!
i just donated 10 $ to him
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02-20-2011, 02:06 AM
#29
Gloxin
Bounty hunter
Originally posted by SanosukeRX
You know its funny how smug and confident he was in his interview on G4 and now hes asking for money to boost his defense.. fun stuff.
the reason he was so confident was because DMCA said jailbreaking and unlocking an iPhone is 100% legal..so thats why he said
Originally posted by another user
Geohot: "if you can jailbreak one closed system why can't you jailbreak another ?
he did not know that the court was gonna be complete dumbasses but what can you expect ...its SONY the multi billion dollar company and they think they can just sue anyone and you the consumer should be very very afraid of them well Geohot is trying to prove to them that we shall not be intimidated by a company that is where it is thanks to us ...its we the ones who buy their products..without us they wont have jack shyt!! and this is how they pay us back? f*ck SONY and f*ck you too !!! how dare of you speak like that of a person who is trying to fight for our rights and give us back the "OtherOS" support that SONY took away from us !!!! shame on you!!! this is the time...its NOW OR NEVER!!!
02-20-2011, 02:11 AM
#30
ImmortalMods
Banned
Originally posted by manster
OLD :p
i downloaded geohot's website with HTTrack Website Copier and i found some interesting site in it:
from index.html You must login or register to view this content.
Geohot we will help you!
i just donated 10 $ to him
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Shouldnt he put a japanese version of this to lol didnt japs create ps3? and controll ps3?
hahah? or am i wrong?
---------- Post added at 10:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:09 PM ----------
Also please answer my questions/....
If geohot loses? does he have to pay a shit load of money to sony?
or does he go to jail or something?
what happens?
02-20-2011, 02:12 AM
#31
ZeroSasurai
Auxillary Priest
Originally posted by Gloxin
the reason he was so confident was because if DMCA said jailbreaking and unlocking an iPhone is 100% legal..so thats why he said
he did not know that the court was gonna be complete dumbasses but what can you expect ...its SONY the multi billion dollar company and they think they can just sue anyone and you the consumer should be very very afraid of them well Geohot is trying to prove to them that we shall not be intimidated by a company that is where it is thanks to us ...its we the ones who buy their products..without us they wont have jack shyt!! and this is how they pay us back? f*ck SONY and f*ck you too !!! how dare of you speak like that of a person who is trying to fight for our rights and give us back what SONY took away from us !!!! shame on you!!! this is the time...its NOW OR NEVER!!!
he did not know that the court was gonna be complete dumbasses but what can you expect ...its SONY the multi billion dollar company and they think they can just sue anyone and you the consumer should be very very afraid of them well Geohot is trying to prove to them that we shall not be intimidated by a company that is where it is thanks to us ...its we the ones who buy their products..without us they wont have jack shyt!! and this is how they pay us back? f*ck SONY and f*ck you too !!! how dare of you speak like that of a person who is trying to fight for our rights and give us back what SONY took away from us !!!! shame on you!!! this is the time...its NOW OR NEVER!!!
And what about Sony? They are just doing everything to protect their product.
02-20-2011, 02:15 AM
#33
NeverMoreModz
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by manster
OLD :p
i downloaded geohot's website with HTTrack Website Copier and i found some interesting site in it:
from index.html You must login or register to view this content.
Geohot we will help you!
i just donated 10 $ to him
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About ****ing Time Right?!
Lets :dingding: These ****ers!... i mean sony :p
02-20-2011, 02:18 AM
#34
manster
League Champion
Originally posted by ImmortalMods
Shouldnt he put a japanese version of this to lol didnt japs create ps3? and controll ps3?
hahah? or am i wrong?
Also please answer my questions/....
If geohot loses? does he have to pay a shit load of money to sony?
or does he go to jail or something?
what happens?
hahah? or am i wrong?
Also please answer my questions/....
If geohot loses? does he have to pay a shit load of money to sony?
or does he go to jail or something?
what happens?
Good idea with the japanese version :y:
i dont know what exactly will happen if geohot loses. but i think it will be bad for the ps3 'hacking' scene :/
02-20-2011, 02:24 AM
#35
ImmortalMods
Banned
Originally posted by manster
Good idea with the japanese version :y:
i dont know what exactly will happen if geohot loses. but i think it will be bad for the ps3 'hacking' scene :/
i dont know what exactly will happen if geohot loses. but i think it will be bad for the ps3 'hacking' scene :/
yea this whole thing with sueing geohot is bad for ps3 hacking scene already i think,
Like back when geohot released cfw, things were like 99% full throttle.
and things were coming out if i remember currect.
and then he got sued and bam back to like 5% and even now
things aint coming out, like only new thing ive seen fast 3 days or so is a ps3 splitter / FBNEXt or what ever emulator update.
Im really sad,
Like i wish there was something new everyday like just something even update to a application or new feature u know?
Id also like to see someone make a cfw that takes away sonys update shit,
and replaces it with cfw update, to were right off our ps3s we can update our cfw with the latest cfw update released.
This was like this on psp, M33 i remember currect,
and then cfw m33-6 i had then they stopped there and i think i almost commited suicide that day.:cry:
hahaha.But yea, i hope things pick up after this is all done, or soon
02-20-2011, 02:59 AM
#36
The End
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Originally posted by SanosukeRX
You know its funny how smug and confident he was in his interview on G4 and now hes asking for money to boost his defense.. fun stuff.
You don't understand... he's not begging for money here, he wants to level the playing field. You have to realize this case is basically, in hindsight, the consumer versus the corporation.
If he wins this, it will change a lot of things. A lot of things.
Also, Sony, being a corporation, has a very well-knit legal team. He even said on his site, 5 lawyers versus his two lawyers. He just wants to level the playing field, and honestly - I don't blame the guy one bit.
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02-20-2011, 03:10 AM
#37
david9602
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by WHAT
I wonder why you are on this website...
Modding/Hacking website no hacking and F*** you?.... LOL
This is you on these forums:
:carling::carling::carling::carling::carling::carling::carling::carling:
Now do something useful or GTFO...
Modding/Hacking website no hacking and F*** you?.... LOL
This is you on these forums:
:carling::carling::carling::carling::carling::carling::carling::carling:
Now do something useful or GTFO...
what you did was usefull how bout you stop flaming and GTFO!! B*TCH!!
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