(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Ok lets start. Sometimes I use martyrdom for the lucky extra kill when I die. Then people always wan't to say "So you have to die to get a kill". It made me think..... What about Last Stand. No one says anything about this, but if you put last stand with juggarnaut it is way worse than martyrdom. Yes you may be still alive, but technically you should be dead. So you are killing people after they kill you. So those people also need to die to get a kill. I think Last Stand is worse than Martyrdom because you can run away from Martyrdom (Not including the times where you run into it because you didn't kill that person). With Last Stand if you are out in the open and they have a D.E. you could be very screwed. Especially if you have to reload. So post wich you hate more and why. Don't be afraid to really get in depth wich one you hate more. Also people with clan tags stateing how you have to die to get a kill with Martyrdom you might want to add Last Stand to that.

i agree with this lol

martydome it always get me i HATE IT

I'm indifferent. If your using martyrdom you get an extra kill, if you're not, you get killed from a grenade that came out of nowhere. If you are using last stand you get a chance to kill your killer, if you're not, then you get killed and probably a teammate will steal the kill you worked hard for.

i personally think last stand is more realistic, because technically if your almost dead and your a marine, ur only intention is to destroy ur enemy so u would fite like a man. Martydom is like so random because there is no way that even makes sense. However, i think they made last stand to powerful in hardcore matches, and i like how martyrdom comes back to bite you in hardcore

theyre both for noobs

the only time you should use last stand is if your close to presteiging and you do it in search anddestroy cause its 100 xp errry kill with it.

i hate them both specially on hardcore td

martydom is better bc wen u get lucky u can get 3+ kills with that grenaid

im ok with last stand cuz if u cant kill them while they're in last stand then u suck....
i seriously hate martyrdom its so annoying cuz it doesnt require any skill to kill someone once you've 'died' unlike last stand were at least they 'attempt' to kill ya.
also wen u kill a dude with martyrdom and one of ur teammates dies nearby i always run ahead even if it shows the grenade symbol cuz i think its a friendly grenade...but little do i know -BOOM!- there goes my kill streak...