You got banned man?

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What you posted is a HUGE straw man argument. In previous COD maybe a "camper" could have high kd and ignore objectives and blah but in Black Ops 2 this is false. Black Ops 2 is a rushers game favoring SMGs and camping for too long gets you killed so much easier. I'm not saying there aren't people who camp for high streaks but unless their playing against bad players they won't have much success.

There are plenty of reasons to play objectives in Black Ops 2. In Kill Confirmed people damn near fight over collecting tags and triple capping to make getting higher streaks easier. Camping is also a subjective argument because just because some scary ass dude can have success sitting in a corner with Target Finder ADS headglitch, with M8A1 or bouncing betties and shock charges doesn't mean anyone can do that exact same thing and get the exact same results. KBlack Ops 2 is a harder game for most people but getting high streaks doesn't require camping but it doesn't require knowing when to to pull back on aggression or flank better. You could kill 5 enemies and collect 5+ dog tags and get an Orbital VSAT which clearly you can rush once you get that boom you have higher streaks so it's honestly not that difficult to get high streaks as it may seem.

My point is besides those prestige glitchers a kd in the 2-3 range and 300-500 spm isn't because the guy camped I could all but guarantee you. The problem is COD players never know when they're bad and if your kdr is lower than 1 then you're bad... And you can blame camping, rushing not being a virgin or whatever you fancy.

You got banned man?

---------- Post added at 03:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:18 PM ----------



What you posted is a HUGE straw man argument. In previous COD maybe a "camper" could have high kd and ignore objectives and blah but in Black Ops 2 this is false. Black Ops 2 is a rushers game favoring SMGs and camping for too long gets you killed so much easier. I'm not saying there aren't people who camp for high streaks but unless their playing against bad players they won't have much success.

There are plenty of reasons to play objectives in Black Ops 2. In Kill Confirmed people damn near fight over collecting tags and triple capping to make getting higher streaks easier. Camping is also a subjective argument because just because some scary ass dude can have success sitting in a corner with Target Finder ADS headglitch, with M8A1 or bouncing betties and shock charges doesn't mean anyone can do that exact same thing and get the exact same results. KBlack Ops 2 is a harder game for most people but getting high streaks doesn't require camping but it doesn't require knowing when to to pull back on aggression or flank better. You could kill 5 enemies and collect 5+ dog tags and get an Orbital VSAT which clearly you can rush once you get that boom you have higher streaks so it's honestly not that difficult to get high streaks as it may seem.

My point is besides those prestige glitchers a kd in the 2-3 range and 300-500 spm isn't because the guy camped I could all but guarantee you. The problem is COD players never know when they're bad and if your kdr is lower than 1 then you're bad... And you can blame camping, rushing not being a virgin or whatever you fancy.

I agree that BO2 is different and not as many campers , but still campers , and I specifically stated "spawn camp" to get their k/d high instead of planting or capturing.

But the mindset CODTARD is something that follows most players from the previous cod.

I can't iterate how many times I go in a game and I tell the Loser he's a Loser and his come back is , Hey at least My K/D is better. Wtf? We just beat you and your here boasting about your K/d /facepalm

generally speaking a better k/d means you are better at COD but for me all I like to see is the other team get rapped by my killstreaks

My main issue is people acting like everyone with higher stats has to camp which isn't true. To be honest with you if you play enough noobs you can have a decent kd anyway. I am not disputing the fact people act like kdr measures your penis size or credit rating when it doesn't. The are the same amount of campers in BO2 it is just camping doesn't yield high scores on BO2 they way rushing does. People also rush more than camp in COD anyway.

My point was the other point of view. The people who act like just because they don't have high stats that stats don't matter. I play with a guy with a 3+ kdr totally legit and he rushes and I am constantly in awe of how he destroys people. He'll go 70-5 while I am thinking my 44-6 is doing something lol. Trying to say everyone that seem good is really just a camping virgin is ridiculous. Camping nor rushing alone won't make someone good. You could give me an LSAT with target finder and 2 Bettys and I wouldn't get as many kills as running around with Vector.

Black Ops 2 is about connection, reaction time and aggressive play. Everyone doesn't have the same skill level. Camping like I said is subjective and doesn't measure skill. The problem is COD players have a checklist of shit to discredit each other:

1. Did he camp
2. Is he using an overpowered weapon
3. Is he a tryhard.

In the end you have to just do your best and see where the chips lay.

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My motto is a high kd doesn't necessarily mean someone is good but a low kd means someone is bad more times than not.

i often hold a 1 man spawn trap in maps with poor spawn like drone, plaza, raid, they all end up screaming their mics at me lolz, it's amazing how people try to discredit you, i mean who's bad enough to let a guy playing alone run into your spawn and keep killing everyone :|, surprisingly i never heard the overpowered weapon remark, or camping (probably because they can see killcams, but ppl still call ppl campers for no reason), tryhard comes out a lot though especially from playing against good players in parties, but i am far from focused during a game lol