Post: Shotgun/Sniper trolls ≥ Campers in annoyance level.
03-30-2012, 03:05 PM #1
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Now most here know I am in favor of beastly gameplay. I think the word camper is overused and cliche at this point. I play Ground War and that cuts down on a lot of camping. I honestly don't care if a guy rushes or camps as long as he is AGGRESSIVE and good at it. Ex:

Guy is defensive and moves around the map getting in and out of cover and shooting, in high traffic area Good
Guy is laying prone in doorways waiting on the enemy and setting up his tent in low traffic areas Bad

Guy running around the map with SMG or AR or Shotgun beasting enemies, drop shotting, etc Good
Guy shotgun in hand running around with Shotgun spraying til he makes contact, goes negative gets stealth bomber Bad

Same for snipers.....

Sniper setting up in high traffic area, picking off enemies and not trying to run around with Sniper Rifle like its P90 Good
Sniper who is trash at sniping, thinks he can quick scope, going negative, hurting his team of course using Support Bad

I have no issue with GOOD shotgun users(rare as they are) or GOOD snipers(quickscope, hardscope or whatever)

That is my biggest annoyance in this game. I have nothing against quick scopers and shotguns IF you are good at using them. Most people would use a shotgun on a big ass map like interchange and a sniper rifle on a small map like Dome... I honestly wouldn't even care if SUPPORT didn't reward these bums. I recently started sniping. And yes I hardscope and quickscope if the situation calls for it but I use Assault to challenge myself. If I go 20-5 or 20-20 I know I am not getting rewarded with a Noob Bomber. :FU: Also the minute I see our team is losing or the enemy is beasting us, I put the Sniper away and "tryhard"...I swear these trolls don't care about wins, accuracy, helping the team or anything other than trolling you.

I would rather a guy laying in a corner kill me then a guy with a USAS literally running around spraying and praying then dying every second. I mean he kills you then dies IN YOUR KILLCAM. Those are the most annoying people on the game. Or the guy who thinks he can quick scope and even though he goes 12-40, he gets some sick satisfaction out of knowing he hit 12 people out of 100s of quick scope attempts. Again with the added lameness of Support actually rewarding his trash gameplay.

One credit I give Black Ops is for as boring as their multiplayer was in comparison they did not feed the trolls. If some bum wanted to gimp himself with a Olympia or a Dragonov, he did not get any killstreaks unless he actually earned them(minus RC Car and MAYBE Care Package)...

Oh and I got a collateral to end a Ground War game the other day, and even though I did decent sniping with L118A, the dude said, "Nice hardcsope"...COD gamers always have an excuse or way to discredit people, LMAO.

This guy gets it:

Originally posted by Omniplasma View Post
I can't stand support killstreaks. It's simply giving idiots killstreaks for falling on their ass cheeks with DMH or last stand. Even martyrdom doesn't bother me as much as those do, because it's avoidable. With LS and DMH, first of all you don't know which one they have, and with LS they get a primary! That blows my mind. Then about halfway through the match the enemy team starts pulling out their support killstreaks that it takes them forever to earn. Don't even get me started on the shotguns. "Hey I have absolutely no gunskill whatsoever so I'm gonna run around with my shotgun and spray profusely around corners until it slaps someone in the face". It's like they made MW3 more compatible with children who have down syndrome and can't actually play it. It wouldn't be so bad if it wouldn't throw me into games with these idiots and the game is already 2 seconds from us losing because my team is handicapped
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03-30-2012, 09:24 PM #11
GIRAFA
Creep-creep!!
I Prefer to get killed by a Hardscoper at the back of the map than a QuickScoper. I can usually get around and come up behind the sniper laying prone and get a free headshot^^, but with a person qickscoping he's running around the map and you really dont know where he is at:argh:

I find it funny how an Assault Juggernaut is an 18killstreak yet the Spawn protection is stronger than itNo
03-30-2012, 09:40 PM #12
Arun1910
Bounty hunter
The OP is the makes the most sense I have ever heard anyone say. Kudos to you.
03-30-2012, 09:43 PM #13
Originally posted by Justice View Post
I am seriously considering being done with this game. PS3 version has been very laggy for me since last weekend. I also upgraded my connection. I play in parties because most people who play this game are $#@!in terrible. However, when we are in parties it is laggy as hell regardless of internet speeds. So either alone with bums or party with lag.

I think they added to lag compensation. This game can be dominated by good players but it still favors garbage players...

1. SUPPORT. Don't try and act like it promotes rushing. You don't get brownie points for rushing. Good rushers should be able to get a damn Assault or Specialist streak. Rushing around dying isn't any better than camping.

2. Deathstreaks
3. Spawn delay. My AC130 delay but your Stinger missles don't have delay.
4. Lag compensation.
5. Party lag

And lastly stop bitching about assassin. If they didn't make it so UAV and Counters weren't so easy Assassin wouldn't be good. I use Hardline Pro but I have no hate against assassin... unless you use UAV AND Assassin.

If you use Support chances are I hate you...


honestly nothing bothers me in this game besides campers and overly defensive players, not in the sense of them killing me, but just the way they play. also joining games in progress, but that can't really be helped.

i guess you have to think in the newbie's perspective, do they really want to play if they aren't able to get any killstreaks, surely they don't play to get destroyed by decent players and get clobbered by their air support all game. of course the person in the ac130/reaper would like it up all game and kill 20 people with it, but that's kind of unfair to the other person.
if they go 12-40 and have fun thats great, but don't complain because they fed you and your team 40 free kills for being terrible, if they were playing more "serious" you'd probably end up with more deaths than just 1 "lucky" quickscope death the whole game.
03-30-2012, 09:44 PM #14
Arun1910
Bounty hunter
Funny you should say that, Ive been recently rolling support and only having UAV and Ballistic vests as my pointstreaks. I have found that my average K/D a game has gone up to around 2:1 or 3:1 just because I have those pointstreaks
03-30-2012, 10:07 PM #15
Originally posted by Arun1910 View Post
Funny you should say that, Ive been recently rolling support and only having UAV and Ballistic vests as my pointstreaks. I have found that my average K/D a game has gone up to around 2:1 or 3:1 just because I have those pointstreaks


haha i tried that for a day cause someone told me to and i got a couple moabs, but it was really annoying to me to use the UAV and drop down vests and pick them up, so i went back to specialist
03-31-2012, 01:58 AM #16
Pichu
RIP PICHU.
Originally posted by Justice View Post
Now most here know I am in favor of beastly gameplay. I think the word camper is overused and cliche at this point. I play Ground War and that cuts down on a lot of camping. I honestly don't care if a guy rushes or camps as long as he is AGGRESSIVE and good at it. Ex:

Guy is defensive and moves around the map getting in and out of cover and shooting, in high traffic area Good
Guy is laying prone in doorways waiting on the enemy and setting up his tent in low traffic areas Bad

Guy running around the map with SMG or AR or Shotgun beasting enemies, drop shotting, etc Good
Guy shotgun in hand running around with Shotgun spraying til he makes contact, goes negative gets stealth bomber Bad

Same for snipers.....

Sniper setting up in high traffic area, picking off enemies and not trying to run around with Sniper Rifle like its P90 Good
Sniper who is trash at sniping, thinks he can quick scope, going negative, hurting his team of course using Support Bad

I have no issue with GOOD shotgun users(rare as they are) or GOOD snipers(quickscope, hardscope or whatever)

That is my biggest annoyance in this game. I have nothing against quick scopers and shotguns IF you are good at using them. Most people would use a shotgun on a big ass map like interchange and a sniper rifle on a small map like Dome... I honestly wouldn't even care if SUPPORT didn't reward these bums. I recently started sniping. And yes I hardscope and quickscope if the situation calls for it but I use Assault to challenge myself. If I go 20-5 or 20-20 I know I am not getting rewarded with a Noob Bomber. :FU: Also the minute I see our team is losing or the enemy is beasting us, I put the Sniper away and "tryhard"...I swear these trolls don't care about wins, accuracy, helping the team or anything other than trolling you.

I would rather a guy laying in a corner kill me then a guy with a USAS literally running around spraying and praying then dying every second. I mean he kills you then dies IN YOUR KILLCAM. Those are the most annoying people on the game. Or the guy who thinks he can quick scope and even though he goes 12-40, he gets some sick satisfaction out of knowing he hit 12 people out of 100s of quick scope attempts. Again with the added lameness of Support actually rewarding his trash gameplay.

One credit I give Black Ops is for as boring as their multiplayer was in comparison they did not feed the trolls. If some bum wanted to gimp himself with a Olympia or a Dragonov, he did not get any killstreaks unless he actually earned them(minus RC Car and MAYBE Care Package)...

Oh and I got a collateral to end a Ground War game the other day, and even though I did decent sniping with L118A, the dude said, "Nice hardcsope"...COD gamers always have an excuse or way to discredit people, LMAO.

This guy gets it:


I am a rare shotgun user according to you. I used to love sniping but with Mp7 users, it's hard to rush and snipe without being sprayed so I quit.

Now I use shotgun or ACR. I use the KSG to kill and murder, though I just prestiged, I have no perks and I still go 20+ in a round but with damage+ I go often 28-40 (KC).
03-31-2012, 03:32 AM #17
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by gtfomyface View Post
honestly nothing bothers me in this game besides campers and overly defensive players, not in the sense of them killing me, but just the way they play. also joining games in progress, but that can't really be helped.

i guess you have to think in the newbie's perspective, do they really want to play if they aren't able to get any killstreaks, surely they don't play to get destroyed by decent players and get clobbered by their air support all game. of course the person in the ac130/reaper would like it up all game and kill 20 people with it, but that's kind of unfair to the other person.
if they go 12-40 and have fun thats great, but don't complain because they fed you and your team 40 free kills for being terrible, if they were playing more "serious" you'd probably end up with more deaths than just 1 "lucky" quickscope death the whole game.


This is where you are wrong.

The terrible players I speak of aren't going to sell the game if they dont get Support trash. They about it. If they are willing to go 12-40 or in most splitscreen cases a combined 8-30 then I doubt the promise of a noob bomber or EMP is what makes them stick around.

Bad players are perfectly fine with being terrible. Support doesn't entice bad players to stick around. It just pisses good players off. Well deathstreak more than Support obviously.

Unless this is your first COD game every other COD made you earn your killstreaks garbage players still played it. Black Ops was a Blackbird, Dog fest for GOOD players. In no way did that decrease the amount of players playing. I watched games where we'd win 1000-400 in tdm or 200-50 in dominantion and those idiots stayed in the lobby.

Support at least was ok idea in theory but Deathsteaks are beyond stupid and a guy blowing up because he died SIX times in a row is fair? Fair would be him using Akimbo Fmgs or a MP7 and killing me. Everyone always bitches about guns but clearly the person using the gun matters too.

So in a sense you are correct they are having fun but don't reward their terrible playing ability to "make it fair". The game is already fairly easy to play compared to most fps games. They don't need babying. Online gaming isn't for everybody...
03-31-2012, 08:42 AM #18
Originally posted by Justice View Post
This is where you are wrong.

The terrible players I speak of aren't going to sell the game if they dont get Support trash. They about it. If they are willing to go 12-40 or in most splitscreen cases a combined 8-30 then I doubt the promise of a noob bomber or EMP is what makes them stick around.

Bad players are perfectly fine with being terrible. Support doesn't entice bad players to stick around. It just pisses good players off. Well deathstreak more than Support obviously.

Unless this is your first COD game every other COD made you earn your killstreaks garbage players still played it. Black Ops was a Blackbird, Dog fest for GOOD players. In no way did that decrease the amount of players playing. I watched games where we'd win 1000-400 in tdm or 200-50 in dominantion and those idiots stayed in the lobby.

Support at least was ok idea in theory but Deathsteaks are beyond stupid and a guy blowing up because he died SIX times in a row is fair? Fair would be him using Akimbo Fmgs or a MP7 and killing me. Everyone always bitches about guns but clearly the person using the gun matters too.

So in a sense you are correct they are having fun but don't reward their terrible playing ability to "make it fair". The game is already fairly easy to play compared to most fps games. They don't need babying. Online gaming isn't for everybody...


maybe the support and deathstreaks actually add a factor of fun into the game for some people, you're only thinking about yourself here.
no this isn't my first cod, black ops was, and seems to be the easiest cod, by the end of it after i learned the game i was getting top 10 in domination leaderboards almost every week that i played 5 games in, so yes i was one of those people unleashing the dog fests on people, but there's no reason to be calling those people idiots, they deserve something to do in this game besides feeding kills to "good" players.
deathstreaks aren't even that annoying, deal with it like these people are dealing with the fact that they go negative every game getting destroyed.
03-31-2012, 11:01 AM #19
Hakon
Ettore Bugatti
You QuickScope...? No sympathy from me.

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