Post: Shotgun/Sniper trolls ≥ Campers in annoyance level.
03-30-2012, 03:05 PM #1
Porter_Justice
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Now most here know I am in favor of beastly gameplay. I think the word camper is overused and cliche at this point. I play Ground War and that cuts down on a lot of camping. I honestly don't care if a guy rushes or camps as long as he is AGGRESSIVE and good at it. Ex:

Guy is defensive and moves around the map getting in and out of cover and shooting, in high traffic area Good
Guy is laying prone in doorways waiting on the enemy and setting up his tent in low traffic areas Bad

Guy running around the map with SMG or AR or Shotgun beasting enemies, drop shotting, etc Good
Guy shotgun in hand running around with Shotgun spraying til he makes contact, goes negative gets stealth bomber Bad

Same for snipers.....

Sniper setting up in high traffic area, picking off enemies and not trying to run around with Sniper Rifle like its P90 Good
Sniper who is trash at sniping, thinks he can quick scope, going negative, hurting his team of course using Support Bad

I have no issue with GOOD shotgun users(rare as they are) or GOOD snipers(quickscope, hardscope or whatever)

That is my biggest annoyance in this game. I have nothing against quick scopers and shotguns IF you are good at using them. Most people would use a shotgun on a big ass map like interchange and a sniper rifle on a small map like Dome... I honestly wouldn't even care if SUPPORT didn't reward these bums. I recently started sniping. And yes I hardscope and quickscope if the situation calls for it but I use Assault to challenge myself. If I go 20-5 or 20-20 I know I am not getting rewarded with a Noob Bomber. :FU: Also the minute I see our team is losing or the enemy is beasting us, I put the Sniper away and "tryhard"...I swear these trolls don't care about wins, accuracy, helping the team or anything other than trolling you.

I would rather a guy laying in a corner kill me then a guy with a USAS literally running around spraying and praying then dying every second. I mean he kills you then dies IN YOUR KILLCAM. Those are the most annoying people on the game. Or the guy who thinks he can quick scope and even though he goes 12-40, he gets some sick satisfaction out of knowing he hit 12 people out of 100s of quick scope attempts. Again with the added lameness of Support actually rewarding his trash gameplay.

One credit I give Black Ops is for as boring as their multiplayer was in comparison they did not feed the trolls. If some bum wanted to gimp himself with a Olympia or a Dragonov, he did not get any killstreaks unless he actually earned them(minus RC Car and MAYBE Care Package)...

Oh and I got a collateral to end a Ground War game the other day, and even though I did decent sniping with L118A, the dude said, "Nice hardcsope"...COD gamers always have an excuse or way to discredit people, LMAO.

This guy gets it:

Originally posted by Omniplasma View Post
I can't stand support killstreaks. It's simply giving idiots killstreaks for falling on their ass cheeks with DMH or last stand. Even martyrdom doesn't bother me as much as those do, because it's avoidable. With LS and DMH, first of all you don't know which one they have, and with LS they get a primary! That blows my mind. Then about halfway through the match the enemy team starts pulling out their support killstreaks that it takes them forever to earn. Don't even get me started on the shotguns. "Hey I have absolutely no gunskill whatsoever so I'm gonna run around with my shotgun and spray profusely around corners until it slaps someone in the face". It's like they made MW3 more compatible with children who have down syndrome and can't actually play it. It wouldn't be so bad if it wouldn't throw me into games with these idiots and the game is already 2 seconds from us losing because my team is handicapped
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03-31-2012, 01:39 PM #20
Porter_Justice
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Originally posted by gtfomyface View Post
maybe the support and deathstreaks actually add a factor of fun into the game for some people, you're only thinking about yourself here.
no this isn't my first cod, black ops was, and seems to be the easiest cod, by the end of it after i learned the game i was getting top 10 in domination leaderboards almost every week that i played 5 games in, so yes i was one of those people unleashing the dog fests on people, but there's no reason to be calling those people idiots, they deserve something to do in this game besides feeding kills to "good" players.
deathstreaks aren't even that annoying, deal with it like these people are dealing with the fact that they go negative every game getting destroyed.

What kind of logic is that? They should be rewarded for being bad and feeding kills?

I actually do take noobs into account. That's the reason I am usually against people complainig about OP guns or perks or tactics. I was a new guy once too so it was annoying when people expected me to run around the map. I realize most people like people to rush and not use assassin because it makes the game easy for them. I avoid regular tdm since that is camping on a whole other level.

So my point is in no way do I think I am high and mighty and noobs should anything or should play the way I play. I also don't see why they should be able to use SUPPORT IN FFA, fall on their asses and blow up or have a primary in their hands. My point was bad players either get better or they don't. Penalizing good players for killing them takes away the fair argument you're trying to make. I would like to get into Fifa games and I know I will suck at first. I'd expect the game to be easy to play but hard to master. I doubt there is some game mechanic that makes the enemy goalie 4 times stupider after I'm down three goals to help me.

And I'm sure a few of them actually get joy out of getting a free kill from Deadman's hand or a Stealth Bomber or trying to use Support Juggernaut for kills instead of flag capping. However I think their fun is actually playing COD or being terrible at quick scoping. Again I fail to see how deathstreaks or bad Support users does anything more than troll decent to good players. I am not one of these guys that wants to make the game suoer realistic so that only people with a high IQ can have fun. I just don't think someone should get rewarded for running around with zero ability or dying 6 times in a row. But, I, will try to consider your "reward for newbery"logic.



Originally posted by Hakon View Post
You QuickScope...? No sympathy from me.


If a guy is within 10 feet it doesn't take more than 1 second to kill him.I meant if a target runs within my view from that close. I generally Snipe 10% of the time only on bigger maps or against worser competition. I certainly wouldn't use a Sniper to run around maps like it's an SMG but nice try.
03-31-2012, 05:22 PM #21
Originally posted by Justice View Post
What kind of logic is that? They should be rewarded for being bad and feeding kills?

I actually do take noobs into account. That's the reason I am usually against people complainig about OP guns or perks or tactics. I was a new guy once too so it was annoying when people expected me to run around the map. I realize most people like people to rush and not use assassin because it makes the game easy for them. I avoid regular tdm since that is camping on a whole other level.

So my point is in no way do I think I am high and mighty and noobs should anything or should play the way I play. I also don't see why they should be able to use SUPPORT IN FFA, fall on their asses and blow up or have a primary in their hands. My point was bad players either get better or they don't. Penalizing good players for killing them takes away the fair argument you're trying to make. I would like to get into Fifa games and I know I will suck at first. I'd expect the game to be easy to play but hard to master. I doubt there is some game mechanic that makes the enemy goalie 4 times stupider after I'm down three goals to help me.

And I'm sure a few of them actually get joy out of getting a free kill from Deadman's hand or a Stealth Bomber or trying to use Support Juggernaut for kills instead of flag capping. However I think their fun is actually playing COD or being terrible at quick scoping. Again I fail to see how deathstreaks or bad Support users does anything more than troll decent to good players. I am not one of these guys that wants to make the game suoer realistic so that only people with a high IQ can have fun. I just don't think someone should get rewarded for running around with zero ability or dying 6 times in a row. But, I, will try to consider your "reward for newbery"logic.





If a guy is within 10 feet it doesn't take more than 1 second to kill him.I meant if a target runs within my view from that close. I generally Snipe 10% of the time only on bigger maps or against worser competition. I certainly wouldn't use a Sniper to run around maps like it's an SMG but nice try.


please
why don't we disable the matchmaking with partied players vs randoms
why should the game reward decent players with more kills and an easier time while making it unfair for the randoms they put them up against
why should these people who can't get killstreaks as often be rewarded killstreaks every game just because they teamed up with other people when the other team hasn't?
in black ops i was getting dogs at least every other game if not every game playing solo, but when i played with a friend, my blackbirds guaranteed his next one and vice versa and we'd be getting at least 4-8 a game just us 2, pretty unfair man, randoms never get me blackbirds
03-31-2012, 10:52 PM #22
Porter_Justice
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Originally posted by gtfomyface View Post
please
why don't we disable the matchmaking with partied players vs randoms
why should the game reward decent players with more kills and an easier time while making it unfair for the randoms they put them up against
why should these people who can't get killstreaks as often be rewarded killstreaks every game just because they teamed up with other people when the other team hasn't?
in black ops i was getting dogs at least every other game if not every game playing solo, but when i played with a friend, my blackbirds guaranteed his next one and vice versa and we'd be getting at least 4-8 a game just us 2, pretty unfair man, randoms never get me blackbirds



So it's unfair that you were better than most randoms? I mean unless you were cheating what's "unfair" about you being better than someone with in the rules of of the game?

Unfortunate sure but not unfair. Fair would be maybe pairing them up with good players not allowing them to explode after dying 6 times.

So you basically feel some idiot running around Dragonov with Support and Deathstreaks is fair? Fair to who? It's not a good players fault he is terrible or finds fun in gimping himself and it's certainly not the good players fault matchmaking paired with with splitscreens or fellow noobs.

Like I said I have no issue with perks or even how easy UAVs are. My point is if someone chooses to go negative because he uses a KSAS on a big ass map like Interchange in no way is it fair to anybody for him to get a Noob Bomber. Also as you pointed out some people have fub being terrible or just enjoy the game wven if it's using a Riot Shield and RPG. To each it's own. It's not like they are expecting to get high killstreaks using stupid shit like that.

Black Ops was good example. In parties on Black Ops we'd have infinite Blackbirds. A huge reason was we conmunicated and mostly because the opposing team was full of idiots or splitscreens. They knew damn well they couldn't get higher than a 4 killstreak so they wouldn't wven select Blackbirds or even Napalm. Also you mention being solo and STILL fetting Blackbirds so the only "umfair" advantage is skill, common sense and of course occasional luck.

Are you just trying ro be contrary? Next you'll say it's unfair there aren't as many $50K+ a year jobs for high school drop outs as college grads...
04-01-2012, 12:09 AM #23
Masta X
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i usually RPG troll!
04-01-2012, 12:31 AM #24
Originally posted by Justice View Post
So it's unfair that you were better than most randoms? I mean unless you were cheating what's "unfair" about you being better than someone with in the rules of of the game?

Unfortunate sure but not unfair. Fair would be maybe pairing them up with good players not allowing them to explode after dying 6 times.

So you basically feel some idiot running around Dragonov with Support and Deathstreaks is fair? Fair to who? It's not a good players fault he is terrible or finds fun in gimping himself and it's certainly not the good players fault matchmaking paired with with splitscreens or fellow noobs.

Like I said I have no issue with perks or even how easy UAVs are. My point is if someone chooses to go negative because he uses a KSAS on a big ass map like Interchange in no way is it fair to anybody for him to get a Noob Bomber. Also as you pointed out some people have fub being terrible or just enjoy the game wven if it's using a Riot Shield and RPG. To each it's own. It's not like they are expecting to get high killstreaks using stupid shit like that.

Black Ops was good example. In parties on Black Ops we'd have infinite Blackbirds. A huge reason was we conmunicated and mostly because the opposing team was full of idiots or splitscreens. They knew damn well they couldn't get higher than a 4 killstreak so they wouldn't wven select Blackbirds or even Napalm. Also you mention being solo and STILL fetting Blackbirds so the only "umfair" advantage is skill, common sense and of course occasional luck.

Are you just trying ro be contrary? Next you'll say it's unfair there aren't as many $50K+ a year jobs for high school drop outs as college grads...


it's a video game not meant to taken seriously like jobs in real life.. i mean if you want to play seriously, go play competitively or something, i bet noone uses support there and it's a more fair environment. oh wait, that would be too hard. pub stomping is easy enough solo, with a party you should not be complaining about silly things that kill you 0-2 times a game.
personally this game is boring to me now and i rarely play it seriously if at all, support streaks just added another dimension of fun, i play with them too sometimes running around doing stupid things and using that remote sentry and juggernaut. i don't even mind if people use them against me, i can still get multiple moabs daily playing solo against them if i tried, but even that gets boring eventually and you just want to do something else.
i guess everyone has their own opinion, people cry about guns and perks and w.e, you cry about deathstreaks/support, there can't really ever be a perfect game for every one, so why bother complaining
04-01-2012, 01:11 AM #25
Porter_Justice
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Originally posted by gtfomyface View Post
personally this game is boring to me now and i rarely play it seriously if at all, support streaks just added another dimension of fun, i play with them too sometimes running around doing stupid things and using that remote sentry and juggernaut. i don't even mind if people use them against me


Now I see why you were so contrary.... You took exception to the diss at Support users. You use it lol
This forum is to discuss the game. I am not ranting nor saying, "omfg nerf this". I am simply stating IW actually rewarding terrible players with anything is comical and far worse than any gun or perk is. You want to be the Robin Hood of MW3 it seems.

Come on bro don't play the "I play for fun but beast if I want to" defense card. You can heast and have fun.

Competitive gaming has way too many rules. Not sure why you're twisting my words. I simply am stating people getting deathstreaks and killstreaks they didn't earn isn't selling anymore copies at the end of the day. As you said it's a videogame. So you're either good or not no need to try and make something "fair" as if it's real life which isn't even fair. Sorry to bother you bro. Use Deadman's hand all you want...
04-01-2012, 01:57 AM #26
atifI0
Are you high?
Its a shame, MW3 had potential but with the failure of Elite, punishing good players or people with great connection and the amount of support terrible players have has just killed it for me. I haven't played MW3 for months now, I usually use snipers and shotguns and mainly play Ground war with top score like every match but with the amount of bullshit in Ground war, I don't think I'll ever play MW3 again.
Now I just play Black Ops or MW2, its so much more satisfying when you own with the snipers and the spas shotgun Smile
04-01-2012, 02:48 AM #27
Originally posted by Justice View Post
Now I see why you were so contrary.... You took exception to the diss at Support users. You use it lol
This forum is to discuss the game. I am not ranting nor saying, "omfg nerf this". I am simply stating IW actually rewarding terrible players with anything is comical and far worse than any gun or perk is. You want to be the Robin Hood of MW3 it seems.

Come on bro don't play the "I play for fun but beast if I want to" defense card. You can heast and have fun.

Competitive gaming has way too many rules. Not sure why you're twisting my words. I simply am stating people getting deathstreaks and killstreaks they didn't earn isn't selling anymore copies at the end of the day. As you said it's a videogame. So you're either good or not no need to try and make something "fair" as if it's real life which isn't even fair. Sorry to bother you bro. Use Deadman's hand all you want...


im just stating a scenario, i used support for maybe 20 games at most, so i don't really care if it wasn't there or not. i'm just saying it's not that big of a problem. and what? i don't use dead mans hand, i'm just saying there's no need for you to cry so much about these support streaks, i've been killed plenty of times by stealth bombers, no need to call them noob bombers. but of course you must be the type that gets angry when you get blown up or bombed :dumb:

u like to challenge urself with assault huh, these people are challenging themselves.... 14 kills for that stealth bomber, quite the challenge for these "horrible" players, also challenging to get those shotgun and quick/noscope kills, you gotta respsect that :carling:

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04-01-2012, 06:35 AM #28
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I agree with OP 100%.

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