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Healthcare Bill= Pile of Sh*t
also, i dont like him making jokes on serious issues such as the border and the Arizona Bill.

I actually like this bill. Like I saw on Fox news, most illegal aliens aren't blonde hair blue eyed. Of course if you see a brown man standing outside the Home Depot, you would wonder if he is legal or not right? So you ask him for proper identification and punish him or let him go. Or if you arrest a brown latino man who doesn't speak english and ask him for identification and he cannot provide it, arrest/deport. Arizona is doing what the government is too pussy to do.

It's funny a lot of people think of amnesty in terms of "civil rights." I think of it in terms of cost to the tax payer and national security.

Let me pose a question to those pro amnesty... Would you open up your entire house (all windows and doors) and go about your normal business daily and not care if other took all your belongings? Lived in your house? Ate the food you bought? Used the electricity you paid for? Played your PS3 or Xbox? I think you see my point.

Rather than allowing amnesty for those individuals, why doesn't our nation look towards helping those other nations provide a better quality of life for their people? This doesn't have to be in terms of economic support either. Simply sharing "efficient" ideas. As if Uncle Sam runs efficiently, but you catch my drift. Remember... they're already citizens of a country. :whistle:

So you believe it is good to promote discrimination based on the color of someone's skin? Why would you encourage hassling innocent people? I have no problem with being required to show ID if you have violated a crime, but the scenario you mentioned goes too far.

To make a long story short:

Every president is better than NumbNuts Bush!!

How i hate that man!!Dumbest f*ck ever!

Even a person with down- syndrome would say to Bush: Damn,you're stupid!!

I feel much better now...

Only a simple majority is needed to pass a bill, and the Democrats have that in both houses. If you're talking about preventing a filibuster, then before the Democrats lost the seat in Massachusetts, all they needed was 2 more votes to achieve cloture, and there are 2 independents in the Senate, who would most likely vote for cloture.

I get your point though, it would be hard to get everyone on board anyway.

Obama Administration is spending tomorrow... TODAY! This should frighten all of us on the forum. We're mostly all under 30 so this will have the greatest and gravest impact on us.

Spending: Obama VS Bush

Bush: From Jan 2001-Jan 2009 Bush increased national deficit from 3.3 trillion to 6.3 trillion (double). Bush's average spending was above post-WWII levels. Post WWII deficit is 2.7% of GDP. Bush's deficit was 3.2% of GDP

Obama: In the first 20 months of President Obama's term the deficit will increase by 3.3 trillion. The same amount Bush spent in 8 years (with Iraq war) Obama spends in less than two. Obama's plan calls for an average 4.2% deficit over GDP over the next decade. His spending will last longer than his four year term. In 2009 his deficit was 9.9% of GDP (post WWII record). The fiscal year of 2010 will bring 9.2%.

Obama's spending plan will double the national debt in five years and triple in ten years. Think about that, 33 trillion dollars the US owes in ten years. What age will you be in ten years? Do you think we'll magically find 33 trillion dollars somewhere? No, we have to reduce spending.

Here is a graphic of the spending that has taken place over the last few decades. notice the SPIKE in outlays (spending) since Obama has taken office.

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The divergence between outlay (gov't spending) and receipts (gov't revenue from taxes) is what will eventually cause the collapse of the US economy which will be a tidal wave through the global economy since globalization. This same situation has just taken place on a smaller scale: Greece.

Policy decisions:

I have not touched on the policy decisions that I strongly disagree with. We can examine the State Childrens Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) and Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act. We can additionally look at his supreme court picks as well. The list is long on where this country is making mistakes.

Bush's mistakes

Don't misappropriate my dislike for Obama for an undying support of President Bush. Under Bush, real GDP growth was 2.5% which is under the business cycle average from 1949-2000. Bush handed out several tax cuts which appeared only to appease the population... the cost of this was great and the impact very insignificant. Median annual income dropped approximately $1,000 per household during his two terms. His forgein policy and domestic policy had significant flaws.

Remember that Obama took office mid recession... So did Bush. Bush turned around the economy and doubled the US stock markets, raised employment and tried to give the people back their money.

I don't think it's a fair characterization to lump Obama and Bush into the same category. I hate hearing the "pro" Obama folks saying.. "well at least it's not Bush." That sort of uneducated thinking is what is leading us down the path of our own destruction.

I belive, from an outsider POV, he is an agrguable president, he has his ups + his downs

All of this is right but im not going to get involved so yeah but i back up you facts the most so sorry everyone else...