Post: Is Obama A Good president Or No???
05-12-2010, 05:21 PM #1
Saucy-_-
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Hey Guys ive seen alot of people on here making a post about obama being a good and bad President, So i was wondering what every one here thinks about it...

Please leave a comment on why you think hes bad or good...
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04-27-2011, 04:51 AM #371
Saucy-_-
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I like the post above and also who do you think will win the next election!!!
04-27-2011, 04:54 AM #372
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by Saucy
I like the post above and also who do you think will win the next election!!!

LOL nice bump. He shouldn't, but he might just out of poor information and lack of interest he could.
04-27-2011, 05:06 AM #373
Pauly
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Obama is a retard Happy
04-27-2011, 10:13 AM #374
I find it funny that a lot of people that know SHIT about politics or what's actually going on try to criticize Obama, but on to another note, how much CAN the president do? What the **** do you expect from the president? If you think this man is God or has some absolute power than you need to read a book.
04-27-2011, 10:36 PM #375
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by DesmondS95 View Post
I find it funny that a lot of people that know SHIT about politics or what's actually going on try to criticize Obama, but on to another note, how much CAN the president do? What the **** do you expect from the president? If you think this man is God or has some absolute power than you need to read a book.

Okay let's see what you know.

Originally posted by another user
I find it funny that a lot of people that know SHIT about politics or what's actually going on try to criticize Obama, but on to another note, how much CAN the president do?

Let's see:
- He has the power to veto any bill he chooses
- He is the chief and makes the final decisions
- He currently, almost heads the democratic part
- He meets other leaders of countries to speak with them
- He can decide to go to war if he wishes

Originally posted by another user
What the **** do you expect from the president?

For him to make wise decisions. Past presidents have fought wars on communism, ended slavery, created a nation, created a great economy. There are also presidents who have collapsed economies, started pointless wars, and have done terribly. I don't consider Obama the worst, but he is pretty terrible. He makes the final decision so he is held responsible.

Originally posted by another user
If you think this man is God or has some absolute power than you need to read a book.

I have. Have you learned about his great activities:
- Obamacare, A healthcare bill unconstitutional, and poorly designed. (Don't get me wrong I am fine with healthcare, just don't make a bill we can't afford, is poorly designed, took three tries to pass it, and goes against basic rights.)
- Passed a few trillion dollar stimulus, that created government jobs.
- Made promises he completely went in the opposite direction in. Not because he was lying. But he knew nothing on what he was talking about
- He wants the wealthy to pay over 50% in taxes
- He dislikes the private sector
- He has collected a massive debt without fixing any problems

Why don't you post why he is good?
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04-29-2011, 12:24 AM #376
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post

Let's see:
- He has the power to veto any bill he chooses(1.)
- He is the chief and makes the final decisions
- He currently, almost heads the democratic part(2.)
- He meets other leaders of countries to speak with them
- He can decide to go to war if he wishes(3.)


For him to make wise decisions. Past presidents have fought wars on communism(4.), ended slavery(5.), created a nation, created a great economy(6.). There are also presidents who have collapsed economies, started pointless wars, and have done terribly(7.). I don't consider Obama the worst, but he is pretty terrible. He makes the final decision so he is held responsible.(8.)


I have. Have you learned about his great activities:
- Obamacare, A healthcare bill unconstitutional, and poorly designed. (Don't get me wrong I am fine with healthcare, just don't make a bill we can't afford, is poorly designed, took three tries to pass it, and goes against basic rights.)
- Passed a few trillion dollar stimulus, that created government jobs.
- Made promises he completely went in the opposite direction in. Not because he was lying. But he knew nothing on what he was talking about
- He wants the wealthy to pay over 50% in taxes(9.)
- He dislikes the private sector(10.)
- He has collected a massive debt without fixing any problems(11.)
(12.)

Why don't you post why he is good?
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(1.) - ....and with that the power to sign a bill, but the bill must first be approved be both houses, even then if he vetoes the bill, Congress can re-vote the bill and it becomes law with a 2/3 vote from both houses. (CHECKS & BALANCES)

(2.) - Yes he heads the democratic part, which has control of neither the House or the Senate.

(3.) - You mean like Dubya did, without formal declaration of war? One of the bullshxt laws we have nowadays.

(4.) - We could take a page or 2 out of the book of Communism and Socialism.

(5.) - That's what he did? Ok.

(6.) - Clinton <3 Smile

(7.) - Dubya

(8.) - A bullshxt ideology of most Americans. The President isn't the only part of country. If you are familiar with football, blame is often given to a quarterback if the team does good but not bad, and vice versa depending on who's opinion.

(9.) - 50% is really pushing it but, did you know that the top richest <10% of our country has more money than the rest of the country? Why shouldn't these wealthy people pay a higher percentage income tax?

(10.) - No, he just has some socialistic views.

(11.) - No, he hasn't collected shxt. Obama isn't the #1 producer in our economy. The debt has been growing since Bush was in office, HE WAS THE ONE THAT STARTED THIS. We haven't had a surplus in this country since Clinton was in office.

(12.) - He did this, He who did that, sounds like I'm reading the fxcking Declaration. Obama is no king.

:fyea:
04-29-2011, 12:46 AM #377
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by DesmondS95 View Post
(1.) - ....and with that the power to sign a bill, but the bill must first be approved be both houses, even then if he vetoes the bill, Congress can re-vote the bill and it becomes law with a 2/3 vote from both houses. (CHECKS & BALANCES)

(2.) - Yes he heads the democratic part, which has control of neither the House or the Senate.

(3.) - You mean like Dubya did, without formal declaration of war? One of the bullshxt laws we have nowadays.

(4.) - We could take a page or 2 out of the book of Communism and Socialism.

(5.) - That's what he did? Ok.

(6.) - Clinton <3 Smile

(7.) - Dubya

(8.) - A bullshxt ideology of most Americans. The President isn't the only part of country. If you are familiar with football, blame is often given to a quarterback if the team does good but not bad, and vice versa depending on who's opinion.

(9.) - 50% is really pushing it but, did you know that the top richest <10% of our country has more money than the rest of the country? Why shouldn't these wealthy people pay a higher percentage income tax?

(10.) - No, he just has some socialistic views.

(11.) - No, he hasn't collected shxt. Obama isn't the #1 producer in our economy. The debt has been growing since Bush was in office, HE WAS THE ONE THAT STARTED THIS. We haven't had a surplus in this country since Clinton was in office.

(12.) - He did this, He who did that, sounds like I'm reading the fxcking Declaration. Obama is no king.

:fyea:

1. He is the one to make the final decision. Checks and balances do not work. What happens is that a political party takes control and thats the final decision.
2. Are you kidding me? The democratic party controls the presidency, Senate, and a short while ago they had the house. It was recently republicans took the house.
3. LOL
8. Yes, but he has a part in it. A large part. Yes, I admit he isn't all of it. But he has the largest cut out of the positions.
9. Because that is ridiculous. They have the most because most of them (Business owners) have taken the liberty to create jobs. Now for actors, Oprah, etc... That is a different story, but what I feel should happen is: Redesign tax system and eliminate write offs, but give business owners something at least.
10. I'll meet you halfway on this.
11. Fine, he was partly responsible for the debt we have been accumulating (Obamacare, Stimulus, etc... BTW both Obamacare and the Stimulus could have been designed much better)

Tell me how is he good or even descent?
04-29-2011, 01:10 AM #378
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
1. He is the one to make the final decision. Checks and balances do not work. What happens is that a political party takes control and thats the final decision.
2. Are you kidding me? The democratic party controls the presidency, Senate, and a short while ago they had the house. It was recently republicans took the house.
3. LOL
8. Yes, but he has a part in it. A large part. Yes, I admit he isn't all of it. But he has the largest cut out of the positions.
9. Because that is ridiculous. They have the most because most of them (Business owners) have taken the liberty to create jobs. Now for actors, Oprah, etc... That is a different story, but what I feel should happen is: Redesign tax system and eliminate write offs, but give business owners something at least.
10. I'll meet you halfway on this.
11. Fine, he was partly responsible for the debt we have been accumulating (Obamacare, Stimulus, etc... BTW both Obamacare and the Stimulus could have been designed much better)

Tell me how is he good or even descent?


1. No if you didn't read it correctly, Congress can overturn a veto.
2. Oops, your right, they do control the senate, only barely.
8. No he doesn't. If anything, blame should go to Congress altogether who can't seem to get shxt done without bickering. It's like two little kids fighting back and forth.
9. Small business owners, ok, but big corporations are raping America in the a$$. These people call for the rich to get richer and the poor poorer. And as for the middle class people who support this, I have an idea why but rather not express it. They want this country to become like India or Brazil or some shxt where there is a population of wealthy people and everyone else is poor. And I discern being rich from being wealthy.
11. 'nuff said.

I'd rather not, I could write a whole essay on this shxt, just know that I don't believe him to be as bad as most Republicans and uneducated complainers do.


BTW, nice sig.
04-29-2011, 03:42 AM #379
Mr.Ron
Little One
I believe he is ok at times! But most of his choices have not been so good!

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