Post: Is Obama A Good president Or No???
05-12-2010, 05:21 PM #1
Saucy-_-
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Hey Guys ive seen alot of people on here making a post about obama being a good and bad President, So i was wondering what every one here thinks about it...

Please leave a comment on why you think hes bad or good...
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05-01-2011, 03:51 PM #380
Saucy-_-
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Nice lil bump! haha
05-02-2011, 06:39 AM #381
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Originally posted by DesmondS95 View Post
1. No if you didn't read it correctly, Congress can overturn a veto.
2. Oops, your right, they do control the senate, only barely.
8. No he doesn't. If anything, blame should go to Congress altogether who can't seem to get shxt done without bickering. It's like two little kids fighting back and forth.
9. Small business owners, ok, but big corporations are raping America in the a$$. These people call for the rich to get richer and the poor poorer. And as for the middle class people who support this, I have an idea why but rather not express it. They want this country to become like India or Brazil or some shxt where there is a population of wealthy people and everyone else is poor. And I discern being rich from being wealthy.
11. 'nuff said.

I'd rather not, I could write a whole essay on this shxt, just know that I don't believe him to be as bad as most Republicans and uneducated complainers do.


BTW, nice sig.


lol obama has raped small and large businesses in the ass. No stimulus money has touched any small business.
and wanna know the reason rich people are rich? Because they work their asses off. They didnt take shit for free. Look at the majority of the impoverished. Uneducated, lazy, addicts, and you could go on. There are people that do deserve help, people that are injured to the point they cant work, people who are mentally handicapped, veterans that have problems. Why should someone that was a high school dropout deserve money from someone that was diligent throughout their life. Why should people get handouts when they've done nothing close to what they're capable of.

What's even more sad is Obamacare hurts the people that actually need help... Wait times for people will skyrocket. Just wait for it to be like Canada. It takes months to get cancer treatment there. Elderly can't get help in time so they usually die. People that have illnesses already are viewed as a lost cause and get pushed to the back for triaging, usually leading to their death. If someone doesn't have health insurance, the majority of the time it's their fault. Not always, but usually. Even McDonalds's offers their employees healthcare. If you're telling me that everyone on welfare in incapable of getting a job at McDonald's, Wendy's, BurgerKing, KFC, Walmart, KMart, or any other place then you must have a low standard of what people are capable of. Another option is go back to school. It's usually free for anyone below the poverty line as it is, plus you get health insurance for around $5 a semester. Nearly every community college offers it.

On top of that, those huge businesses, that pay 50% of their profits to the Government, are the ones offering those the most jobs. And you claim they want a divide between rich and poor? Why? Because they pay a select few people large amounts of money so that the company can stay afloat and be run efficiently enough that they can employ as many people as they can? The majority of people are middle class... That's not how it would be if a divide was present or coming up. If it wasn't for those huge companies you'd have no internet, no computer, you're parents would have no hope of a job, you'd have no hope of obtaining an education, no car, no means of transportation at all, no phone, no communication, nothing. Be grateful that you have any of that because huge empires make it their job to supply that.

As for the nation's debt... Who told you we had a surplus when Clinton was president? This countries been in debt since long before he was even a politician. Obama's actually racking up the debt at a rate faster than Bush... Pretty hard to pull that off... And still have the jobless rate climb... Oh wait... That extra money never made it to any businesses... It stayed in cities... I can tell you exactly where it went. I'll show you the pictures of what's been accomplished with it... BTW look up how much just one of those signs costs that they put next to every project that was "funded" by stimulus money. And all that happens is it leads to jobs for a one week project then everything is as it was before... Just with richer politicians...

So please tell me why the richest should pay more? Because they work harder? Because they don't accept handouts? Because they pay for everything simply because they chose a career path that leads to more for everyone else... Without them there would be no middle class, without them nobody would have anything.

Here's a little fact you should look into...
Since 2009, Texas has added 165,000 jobs. California has lost 1.2 million jobs. California charges higher tax rates to businesses and the rich, Texas does not. Just keep thinking that mooching off the rich will get you somewhere...

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05-02-2011, 06:46 AM #382
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I like him. He's trying to dig us out of the hole Bush dug us in.

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DesmondS95
05-02-2011, 06:53 AM #383
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Originally posted by Hurlie View Post
I like him. He's trying to dig us out of the hole Bush dug us in.


Dig us out how... He's added to debt, added to the jobless rate, and got us into more military involvements (Libya, Egypt) and our allies are beginning to dwindle... So how is he digging us out of that hole again? Not to be mean but I just want to see what you are basing that on... Refer to the post above yours for more info so we don't hit the same issue twice... lol Not trying to troll or anything :p
05-02-2011, 07:23 AM #384
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agree with gqgk
05-02-2011, 07:48 AM #385
Originally posted by GQGK View Post
Dig us out how... He's added to debt, added to the jobless rate, and got us into more military involvements (Libya, Egypt)(1.) and our allies are beginning to dwindle... So how is he digging us out of that hole again? Not to be mean but I just want to see what you are basing that on... Refer to the post above yours for more info so we don't hit the same issue twice... lol Not trying to troll or anything :p


(1.) - Very brief military actions until taken over by NATO.



Originally posted by GQGK View Post
lol obama has raped small and large businesses in the ass. No stimulus money has touched any small business.
and wanna know the reason rich people are rich? Because they work their asses off. They didnt take shit for free. Look at the majority of the impoverished. Uneducated, lazy, addicts, and you could go on. There are people that do deserve help, people that are injured to the point they cant work, people who are mentally handicapped, veterans that have problems. Why should someone that was a high school dropout deserve money from someone that was diligent throughout their life. Why should people get handouts when they've done nothing close to what they're capable of.

What's even more sad is Obamacare hurts the people that actually need help... Wait times for people will skyrocket. Just wait for it to be like Canada. It takes months to get cancer treatment there. Elderly can't get help in time so they usually die. People that have illnesses already are viewed as a lost cause and get pushed to the back for triaging, usually leading to their death. If someone doesn't have health insurance, the majority of the time it's their fault. Not always, but usually. Even McDonalds's offers their employees healthcare. If you're telling me that everyone on welfare in incapable of getting a job at McDonald's, Wendy's, BurgerKing, KFC, Walmart, KMart, or any other place then you must have a low standard of what people are capable of. Another option is go back to school. It's usually free for anyone below the poverty line as it is, plus you get health insurance for around $5 a semester. Nearly every community college offers it.

On top of that, those huge businesses, that pay 50% of their profits to the Government, are the ones offering those the most jobs. And you claim they want a divide between rich and poor? Why? Because they pay a select few people large amounts of money so that the company can stay afloat and be run efficiently enough that they can employ as many people as they can? The majority of people are middle class... That's not how it would be if a divide was present or coming up. If it wasn't for those huge companies you'd have no internet, no computer, you're parents would have no hope of a job, you'd have no hope of obtaining an education, no car, no means of transportation at all, no phone, no communication, nothing. Be grateful that you have any of that because huge empires make it their job to supply that.

As for the nation's debt... Who told you we had a surplus when Clinton was president? This countries been in debt since long before he was even a politician. Obama's actually racking up the debt at a rate faster than Bush... Pretty hard to pull that off... And still have the jobless rate climb... Oh wait... That extra money never made it to any businesses... It stayed in cities... I can tell you exactly where it went. I'll show you the pictures of what's been accomplished with it... BTW look up how much just one of those signs costs that they put next to every project that was "funded" by stimulus money. And all that happens is it leads to jobs for a one week project then everything is as it was before... Just with richer politicians...

So please tell me why the richest should pay more? Because they work harder? Because they don't accept handouts? Because they pay for everything simply because they chose a career path that leads to more for everyone else... Without them there would be no middle class, without them nobody would have anything.

Here's a little fact you should look into...
Since 2009, Texas has added 165,000 jobs. California has lost 1.2 million jobs. California charges higher tax rates to businesses and the rich, Texas does not. Just keep thinking that mooching off the rich will get you somewhere...
05-02-2011, 02:35 PM #386
Just4Hax
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Originally posted by Hurlie View Post
I like him. He's trying to dig us out of the hole Bush dug us in.

What has he done to do so? Just wondering since there must be an action to have a reaction

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05-02-2011, 02:42 PM #387
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Originally posted by DesmondS95 View Post
(1.) - Very brief military actions until taken over by NATO.


Yes yes, please continue... There is no need to list when you're only making one point...

Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
What has he done to do so? Just wondering since there must be an action to have a reaction


That's what I said :p haha
05-03-2011, 12:56 AM #388
Saucy-_-
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Well my view on him changed a little!

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