Post: Is Obama A Good president Or No???
05-12-2010, 05:21 PM #1
Saucy-_-
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Hey Guys ive seen alot of people on here making a post about obama being a good and bad President, So i was wondering what every one here thinks about it...

Please leave a comment on why you think hes bad or good...
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05-12-2010, 08:12 PM #11
Originally posted by drunkenrepublicn View Post
Every president has their followers and haters, Obama is not exempt from this. The great thing about the US is we all have freedom of speach speech*. One of the things Obama is great at is speaking. Thats That's* as far as I'll go in talking highly of him, I do not like him nor the Democrated Democrat* Party, but the US needs both the Republicans and the democrates Democrats* to keep it balanced, that is the only way it will work. No matter who the president is, he cant do very much with out the Senate or Congress backing him. For the last 5 five* years the Democrates Democrats* have had the power in the house', so when I see or hear Democrates Democrats* saying the GOP put us in debt in the last 5 years they are truely truly* making themselves look like idiots. Anyone who has paid attention in school and took the time to face the facts, they would realize that the DEMOCRATES DEMOCRATS* are to blame for a majority of the debt (FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS, before that it was the Republicans that controlled the house so they have to face the facts on the money spent then)
Obamas Obama's* health care is a joke, for one, its illegal for the government to force people to get health care, and thats that's why 14 fourteen* states have already filed a lawsuit against the government and 8 eight* more are likely to follow suit in the near future. If it was up to OSAMA, we would all live off the government, that way the few chosen ones would run our lives. I for one will never put up with that, so I will vote and encourage anyone to vote to get the balance back in place-Oh and befor before* you start flamming flaming*, that means a 50/50 split, that is the only way America can succeed.


The house in technical terms has a very strong power over budget spending but in reality not many senators or congressman have high morals out there and in turn they can't control the budget spending of the President as easily as it seems on paper. The house currently and in the five years before Obama knew their vote count would go downhill if they didn't approve the budget spending of Bush. Who would vote for the congressman or senator that didn't approve spending money on our own troops in the middle east? It may have not been that reason but obviously any President would make it look like that to get his own way. Also, I see in no way how health care could possibly be bad for the community in any way except the amount of money it costs to maintain it, but you never stated that. The recession we recently went through was mainly Bush's fault and if you can't accept that then that's your loss. On another note, calling Obama "Osama" was just a cheap shot, but it was expected coming from some redneck republican.

EDIT: When I was referring to him as a redneck I was providing an example of a stereotype commonly used in the world of politics and debating, I wasn't trying to insult him, I was just showing if he has to snoop low enough to call Obama "Osama," I can refer to political stereotypes as well. Obviously not all republicans are rednecks, especially not when you live in Denver, CO.
05-12-2010, 09:31 PM #12
xVii-
Big Sister
Obama promised ''change" throughout his campaign. The only major "change" that he's brought so far (that would directly affect the American public) has been the Obamacare bill, which I believe is a step in the wrong direction for America. I don't care for him
05-12-2010, 10:11 PM #13
RICHIE209
March 6, 2011.
Me myself, I'm tired of the rep that the Republican's get. They are thought of as racist pigs who are out for themselves, while Democrats are the magical world saving fairy's. Every President is good in his own way. I'm not a big fan of the healthcare bill myself. The bill does make it possible for the Government to make us do something though done with good intention. I still don't see an end to this war coming anytime soon.

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05-12-2010, 10:50 PM #14
xVii-
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Originally posted by RICHIE209 View Post
Me myself, I'm tired of the rep that the Republican's get. They are thought of as racist pigs who are out for themselves, while Democrats are the magical world saving fairy's. Every President is good in his own way. I'm not a big fan of the healthcare bill myself. The bill does make it possible for the Government to make us do something though done with good intention. I still don't see an end to this war coming anytime soon.


Amen.

Give a man a fish, he eats tonight. ---------Liberal
Teach him how to fish, he eats forever. --------Conservative

I use that as a basic example to show the difference between Democrats and Republicans to friends who know absolutely nothing about politics. It's a bit biased, but I find it sums it up quite nicely. Just because Conservatives aren't foaming at the mouths trying to get the scope of welfare increased doesn't mean that they're racist pigs.
05-12-2010, 10:53 PM #15
Bad pres...he didnt do anything he said he would and everything he has done sucks
05-12-2010, 11:09 PM #16
schaffinosx
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Here we go...

Originally posted by Fletcher View Post
I dont know much about Us politics, but Obama has been trying to introduce Health care which I see as being beneficial to the U.S.

Obama is a change for the US in many ways, but way too many people are too quick to judge when it comes to a change, but sometimes a change is for the good.


I completely agree. While change is not always beneficial, in a time of great change in every aspect of life, from the way we communicate to the way we see the world, change in America is indeed necessary.

Originally posted by drunkenrepublicn View Post
Every president has their followers and haters, Obama is not exempt from this. The great thing about the US is we all have freedom of speach. One of the things Obama is great at is speaking. Thats as far as I'll go in talking highly of him, I do not like him nor the Democrated Party, but the US needs both the Republicans and the democrates to keep it balanced, that is the only way it will work. No matter who the president is, he cant do very much with out the Senate or Congress backing him. For the last 5 years the Democrates have had the power in the house', so when I see or hear Democrates saying the GOP put us in debt in the last 5 years they are truely making themselves look like idiots. Anyone who has paid attention in school and took the time to face the facts, they would realize that the DEMOCRATES are to blame for a majority of the debt (FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS, before that it was the Republicans that controlled the house so they have to face the facts on the money spent then)
Obamas health care is a joke, for one, its illegal for the government to force people to get health care, and thats why 14 states have already filed a lawsuit against the government and 8 more are likely to follow suit in the near future. If it was up to OSAMA, we would all live off the government, that way the few chosen ones would run our lives. I for one will never put up with that, so I will vote and encourage anyone to vote to get the balance back in place-Oh and befor you start flamming, that means a 50/50 split, that is the only way America can succeed.


Simply because Democrats have "the power in Congress" does not mean that such national issues are their fault, because it does not take many people in opposition of something for it to be held back. A perfect example of this is the Healthcare bill. Democrats control the House, but the few Republicans in Congress voted against it, and therefore it took months and months for Obama to finally push it through legislation.

Originally posted by DirtyDudeOnline View Post
The house in technical terms has a very strong power over budget spending but in reality not many senators or congressman have high morals out there and in turn they can't control the budget spending of the President as easily as it seems on paper. The house currently and in the five years before Obama knew their vote count would go downhill if they didn't approve the budget spending of Bush. Who would vote for the congressman or senator that didn't approve spending money on our own troops in the middle east? It may have not been that reason but obviously any President would make it look like that to get his own way. Also, I see in no way how health care could possibly be bad for the community in any way except the amount of money it costs to maintain it, but you never stated that. The recession we recently went through was mainly Bush's fault and if you can't accept that then that's your loss. On another note, calling Obama "Osama" was just a cheap shot, but it was expected coming from some redneck republican.


I agree. Many people look at Obama's healthcare bill and think he's a bad person, when if you take a clear look at what he's trying to do, you'll realize his intentions are in the right place. I understand that the minor tax raises for the wealthy and those who decide to continue to be uninsured may seem wrong, but it is simply ensuring that the new costs of providing quality health care are met.

Originally posted by xVii
Obama promised ''change" throughout his campaign. The only major "change" that he's brought so far (that would directly affect the American public) has been the Obamacare bill, which I believe is a step in the wrong direction for America. I don't care for him


If you believe that that is true, then you're simply not listening to what is going on. Obama is attempting to push many things through legislation. What you have to understand is that the President does not have the power to simply push something through legislation without putting it through Congress first. If he did not have the issues he is having with Congress, we'd be having many other reforms than simply Health Care reform. For example, Obama is trying to make Immigration Reform, Energy Reform, and Finance Reform.

Originally posted by bdanderson80 View Post
Bad pres...he didnt do anything he said he would and everything he has done sucks


What exactly are you referring to? What did he exactly say he would do that he did not, or is not trying to do?
05-12-2010, 11:10 PM #17
Glitch3r
As Ballin As Possible
He's not the perfect president, but he is by far better than GWB or John McCain. You know, it takes time to make up for eight years of crap.

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05-12-2010, 11:16 PM #18
xVii-
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Originally posted by SchaffinOSX View Post
If you believe that that is true, then you're simply not listening to what is going on. Obama is attempting to push many things through legislation. What you have to understand is that the President does not have the power to simply push something through legislation without putting it through Congress first. If he did not have the issues he is having with Congress, we'd be having many other reforms than simply Health Care reform. For example, Obama is trying to make Immigration Reform, Energy Reform, and Finance Reform.


Well if he's not able to "push it through Congress," when his party has the majority of the seats, then there's obviously something wrong with the legislation, even among Democrats

And notice I said what he's done, not what he's attempting to do.

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05-12-2010, 11:23 PM #19
drunkenrepublicn
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Originally posted by DirtyDudeOnline View Post
The house in technical terms has a very strong power over budget spending but in reality not many senators or congressman have high morals out there and in turn they can't control the budget spending of the President as easily as it seems on paper. The house currently and in the five years before Obama knew their vote count would go downhill if they didn't approve the budget spending of Bush. Who would vote for the congressman or senator that didn't approve spending money on our own troops in the middle east? It may have not been that reason but obviously any President would make it look like that to get his own way. Also, I see in no way how health care could possibly be bad for the community in any way except the amount of money it costs to maintain it, but you never stated that. The recession we recently went through was mainly Bush's fault and if you can't accept that then that's your loss. On another note, calling Obama "Osama" was just a cheap shot, but it was expected coming from some redneck republican.


WOW Dirty, you are real mature, I would have expected this from a new member, but name calling from a super mod, Little immature, dont yah think. My post did not call anyone out, I stated my thoughts and opinions on the president and the issues as I see it, if that offended you, so be it, I did not nor will I judge you solely on your politics, you how ever are lesser of a man, since you have to name call to try and get your point across, oh and by the way the OSAMA was ment to be OBAMA, spell error on my part.

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