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09-06-2010, 06:11 PM
#29
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Originally posted by LYDEN
^^^^^ Did you copy and paste that lol and you spelled Quran wrong or who ever you copied it from
All me
None copied.
Ok Quran was to fix the spelling mistake
Had a feeling i got Quran wrong , stupid teacher telling me the wrong spelling
Been using that spelling for years :/
09-06-2010, 07:10 PM
#30
Originally posted by PR1CEY
You did actually put a decent argument forward. Unlike most people around here. We'll call that one a draw 
Not sure what the quote location thing was all about, but w/e
Not sure what the quote location thing was all about, but w/e
u quoted my location previously !!
can u answer one question please?
u said the qura'an promotes violence, if a country invaded wales and started to kill welsh, what will u do?
09-06-2010, 07:40 PM
#31
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Originally posted by Super
u quoted my location previously !!
can u answer one question please?
u said the qura'an promotes violence, if a country invaded wales and started to kill welsh, what will u do?
can u answer one question please?
u said the qura'an promotes violence, if a country invaded wales and started to kill welsh, what will u do?
Depends on the reason they invaded. If it's because the country is the based of a terrorist group, fair play.
The qura'an most definitely promotes violence, there is no way you can say it doesn't. Anyway, the qura'an is not just for one country, so your point is irrelevant.
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09-06-2010, 07:59 PM
#32
Originally posted by PR1CEY
Depends on the reason they invaded. If it's because the country is the based of a terrorist group, fair play.
The qura'an most definitely promotes violence, there is no way you can say it doesn't. Anyway, the qura'an is not just for one country, so your point is irrelevant.
The qura'an most definitely promotes violence, there is no way you can say it doesn't. Anyway, the qura'an is not just for one country, so your point is irrelevant.
well i dont care about the terrorist, i said wales, or kuwait (any peacefull country) when you get invaded you have to fight back, the qura'an basically says: Ok fight back but in the name of allah, that u want to defend yourself, your people and your land, not fight back because of hatred.
i know most people see terrorist on tv and think they are muslims, they are not, they are just retarded people looking for excuses.
the qura'an doesnt promote violance, it promotes peace, its just hard sometimes on some people to understand it correctly, or misinterpreted to something bad.
09-06-2010, 07:59 PM
#33
+tA.Daisho
Crumpets and tea?
Back to the OP's original question on "I Don't Get Why Al-Qaeda Hates the US and UK!"
Al-Queda dont hate the UK and USA they hate every western country in general. The question of why is a complicated one at best but to put is in a simple term like Pricey as previously stated it all stems down to their religion and the beliefs that come with it.
Thus while al-Qaeda constantly "tells" the West that it is launching a defensive war (jihad), that is definitely not the culmination of Islamic teaching on jihad. The fact is, defensive war which in western terms is considered “terrorism” is all that they are capable of for the present. You see Al Queda don't have the resources at hand to declare a normal war on the west they have to strike at us though cowardly acts such as 9/11 or subway bombings. But just as they justify their cowardly actions through the Koran and Tradition, so too do these sources justify offensive war, I quote from the Koran "until the whole world either embraces Islam or lives under its authority in complete submission and humility" [Koran: 9:29].
Al-Queda dont hate the UK and USA they hate every western country in general. The question of why is a complicated one at best but to put is in a simple term like Pricey as previously stated it all stems down to their religion and the beliefs that come with it.
Thus while al-Qaeda constantly "tells" the West that it is launching a defensive war (jihad), that is definitely not the culmination of Islamic teaching on jihad. The fact is, defensive war which in western terms is considered “terrorism” is all that they are capable of for the present. You see Al Queda don't have the resources at hand to declare a normal war on the west they have to strike at us though cowardly acts such as 9/11 or subway bombings. But just as they justify their cowardly actions through the Koran and Tradition, so too do these sources justify offensive war, I quote from the Koran "until the whole world either embraces Islam or lives under its authority in complete submission and humility" [Koran: 9:29].
09-06-2010, 08:06 PM
#34
elfmotat
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Originally posted by Super
the qura'an doesnt promote violance, it promotes peace, its just hard sometimes on some people to understand it correctly, or misinterpreted to something bad.
ORLY?
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51
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09-06-2010, 08:10 PM
#35
Originally posted by tA.Daisho
Back to the OP's original question on "I Don't Get Why Al-Qaeda Hates the US and UK!"
Al-Queda dont hate the UK and USA they hate every western country in general. The question of why is a complicated one at best but to put is in a simple term like Pricey as previously stated it all stems down to their religion and the beliefs that come with it.
Thus while al-Qaeda constantly "tells" the West that it is launching a defensive war (jihad), that is definitely not the culmination of Islamic teaching on jihad. The fact is, defensive war which in western terms is considered “terrorism” is all that they are capable of for the present. You see Al Queda don't have the resources at hand to declare a normal war on the west they have to strike at us though cowardly acts such as 9/11 or subway bombings. But just as they justify their cowardly actions through the Koran and Tradition, so too do these sources justify offensive war, I quote from the Koran "until the whole world either embraces Islam or lives under its authority in complete submission and humility" [Koran: 9:29].
Al-Queda dont hate the UK and USA they hate every western country in general. The question of why is a complicated one at best but to put is in a simple term like Pricey as previously stated it all stems down to their religion and the beliefs that come with it.
Thus while al-Qaeda constantly "tells" the West that it is launching a defensive war (jihad), that is definitely not the culmination of Islamic teaching on jihad. The fact is, defensive war which in western terms is considered “terrorism” is all that they are capable of for the present. You see Al Queda don't have the resources at hand to declare a normal war on the west they have to strike at us though cowardly acts such as 9/11 or subway bombings. But just as they justify their cowardly actions through the Koran and Tradition, so too do these sources justify offensive war, I quote from the Koran "until the whole world either embraces Islam or lives under its authority in complete submission and humility" [Koran: 9:29].
accually "al-qaida" hates everyone who doesnt support terrorism, thats why theres bombing in iraq, pakistan, afghanistan & other muslim country, because real muslims doesn't support their terrorism.
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Originally posted by elfmotat
ORLY?
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51
dude thats gonna take alot of time reading it.
09-06-2010, 08:13 PM
#36
+tA.Daisho
Crumpets and tea?
Originally posted by Super
acually "al-qaida" hates everyone who doesnt support terrorism, thats why theres bombing in iraq, pakistan, afghanistan & other muslim country, because real muslims doesn't support their terrorism.
---------- Post added at 11:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:09 PM ----------
dude thats gonna take alot of time reading it.
---------- Post added at 11:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:09 PM ----------
dude thats gonna take alot of time reading it.
Yes but Al Queda use the Koran and their muslim traditions to justify there actions towards the world. And after breaking down the Koran you can clearly see that the Koran does in fact support what Al Queda have been doing. At the end of the day Al Queda are fanatics of the muslim religion.
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