(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I don't want this decsending into another Bin Laden case story thread because we've seen enough of that yesterday.
However the current news does present an interesting question.
Over the last 48 hours I've noticed a significant difference in the reactions of friends in America compared to friends in England regarding the amazing news.
While my British friends pick apart the news and question its validity our American counterparts welcome in and celebrate the news.

Interesting enough one of my american friends commented on a Facebook status with "there is proof, go watch Obama's speech". Well if Obama says so it must be right. Right? Anyway what does everyone else think? Are the brits just more suspicious or?

Yeah Englands only aiding in Afghanistan by fighting in Helmand province. /sarcasm

People from the UK & US can't have these discussions without it turning into a bitch fest because of your egos, so i'm just leaving it at this.

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The amount of deaths Americans had isn't relevant. They could of prevented a few thousand of those if they weren't scared to go and bomb at night like Britain was doing.

USSR lost well over 20million..

Just for the record aswell i'm not ignorant about this kind of debate, it just pisses me off when Americans take the glory when it wasn't only their involvement that led to Osama being 'killed' . You never see any other country in the world do what you do.

Guys, it's skeptical...

Unless you live in the UK.

Oh... you limeys and your fancy way of spelling words...

Way to generalize.

I understand what you are saying though. You in a sense are correct but I don't think a majority of Americans are jumping for joy. Many people in the world I can guarantee truly believe it is the end of Al Q etc. Though I am sure that the general public has become more aware of cover ups and how deceitful the Government can be, So I don't think everyone is swallowing it up. I am from Canada and most of the people I have spoken to about the issue do not believe this is real.

That's because you started the war and your country feels like it needs all the Glory, hence why you all say "we (as in America) won WW1 and WW2" when in actual fact you came late, to them both, and did nothing more than speed up the inevitable. My point is that your country feel like you have to be in the news all the time. Your ego as a country is ****ing huge. Many countries don't need recognition and glory. They go in, get the job done, and get out, end of. No parading in the media over it. When Britain withdrew from Iraq, it showed the troops like "job done, let's go home" kinda thing. On the news for a day, maybe 2. When America leave "Oh look we are the best. We ****ing owned this rag head bastards blah blah blah America America America blah blah blah." On the news for more than a day. Is there a need? No. I don't care if that was what you were talking about or what.

I am sceptical of the American Government. I think that the ego the country has doesn't help. I've mentions the World Wars. I'll mention the moon landing. There was a Space Race between US and USSR. First to conquer outer space, basically. Who conveniently wins? America. Just like they have "won" everything else. America "win" the Iraq war, failing to realise the massive amount of help they had from Britain and NATO. Next you'll win the Afghanistan war, failing to realise the help you have had. Maybe you felt that with the hype of the Royal Wedding keeping America out of the news, you felt you had to 1 up Britain? I don't know. I also thing that Many Americans are too patriotic and take to too a whole new level. Believe everything you President tells you, even though it could be the biggest bullshit ever like "we can all fly with our arms", someone will believe it. I also don't think it helps with the amount of law enforcement agencies you have. Sheriffs, Police, FBI, DEA, CIA, NSA and god knows whatever else you have. The amount of people within them that will be on someone else payroll. I could go on and on and on but I bet no one is reading this part.

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Yes, we are obligated to join in the war. Maybe we did send in 9 000. It's more than any other country in Nato by about 5 000. We didn't have to send in 9 000. We could have done 1 000. Think of the size of Britain and compare it to USA. See the difference? We have our own things to look after. Like our defence. And when the Government decide to cut out defence cuts and then start another 'war' in Libya...
You cannot not say that the 9 000 troops have done ****, and if you do, you're more ignorant that I thought. Many Britains recognise the help you put in with the war. Speeding it up and helping. Sure you didn't have to, maybe your ego thought you did. We don't like it when you try and take away our effort and win, and the respect of the men who died, and survived, fighting for our country by saying you did it, by dropping two A bombs on thousands of civilians to get your win. I have the up most respect for any Ally soldier that died in the wars, be it American or French or Russian, even if I don't like the country.

You take credit because you need to feed you ego. Also, it's your war to start with. That's why you have more men fighting. Britain or NATO didn't start it, America did. Why do other countries men have to pay the ultimate sacrifice for your war because we are diplomatically obligated too? You didn't have to in the World War, you wanted to.




Loosing more men means jack shit. It could mean that that country wasn't as prepared for the War, such as Russia. They had 1 gun for every 2 men. That's why they had more deaths. If they retreated, their own officers shot them for being Cowards. Having more deaths doesn't one bit mean they were more involved, and to me, it's pure ignorant to think that because Britain had less deaths than America over a longer period means we wasn't involved as mush as America. It just means we were either A) Better trained B) Better trained and equipped C) Used tactics rather than all guns blazing. I like you as a member, but I don't like the fact that you think more deaths means more involvement. That, to me, is very ignorant. And if anything, it's the Americans knocking down Britains contributions to the war by say You won it, such as Cudder is basically doing. The people that think otherwise are either a little kid that doesn't know what they are talking about, or just plain ignorant to know where credit is due. I'll take the latter. I know the Americans Contributed greatly to the defeat of the Nazis. Britain may have lost. But when you take into account the size and population of Britain to Germany, no body can say we did bad.

I Point out the American Death totals in the European theater as a defense of Amercian involvement there.
We may have come late to the War, but the truth is that after 39 with the defeat of the French and retreat of the British, there was no ground war in Western Europe until American Entry. I have never claimed that British or other allied involvement was less than American, I am merely defending American involvement against claims that we came in late and the war was already won. That is pure crap.
And do not diminsih the Soviet contribution to the war. More Germans died on the Eastern Front than any other theater.
If we are talking bravery, in my opinion, the bravest people in the war were the Poles. They continued to fight through out the war, Suffered the hightest percentage of casualties against total population, and had almost half their civilan population exterminated by the Nazis and never gave up ... They were some tough ass people, to become the butt of so many jokes.

Remember that you are dealing with mostly Kids on here and they brag about America too much.
But I'm not going to sit quietly and listen to people say that we did not and still do not contribute to efforts to keep the west free or are less brave or inferior in battle.

Just different civilizations, that's all I can put it down to. No 2 people are the same, same rule applies.