Post: Do you support abortions, death penalties?
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10-07-2011, 04:32 AM
#1
deathkid1212
I’m too L33T
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11-10-2011, 03:27 PM
#56
Originally posted by firerock67
1. I will in a min.
2. You must login or register to view this content. Read it.
3. My religion is my belief. Not my parents for me. You can't come out and accuse me of having my belief because my parents chose it for me. And the issue of abortion is all opinions. I don't believe in abortion because I think the baby is alive from the time it is conceived.
2. You must login or register to view this content. Read it.
3. My religion is my belief. Not my parents for me. You can't come out and accuse me of having my belief because my parents chose it for me. And the issue of abortion is all opinions. I don't believe in abortion because I think the baby is alive from the time it is conceived.
1) Okay
2) I only need to read the title of the link to know that's a load of crap. Scientific fact has given us modern medicine, boosted us into space and paved way for the computer you're typing on right now. Scientific fact is a fact regardless of whether you like to deny it or not. (at this point I'd appreciate TC chipping in, he's better as this nature of argument :p)
3) Do you have the same belief system/religion as your parents? Did they raise you to believe that? If so, your parents did in-fact choose it for you.
11-10-2011, 03:31 PM
#57
Fire.
Im a fed.
Originally posted by Clutch
1) Okay
2) I only need to read the title of the link to know that's a load of crap. Scientific fact has given us modern medicine, boosted us into space and paved way for the computer you're typing on right now. Scientific fact is a fact regardless of whether you like to deny it or not. (at this point I'd appreciate TC chipping in, he's better as this nature of argument :p)
3) Do you have the same belief system/religion as your parents? Did they raise you to believe that? If so, your parents did in-fact choose it for you.
2) I only need to read the title of the link to know that's a load of crap. Scientific fact has given us modern medicine, boosted us into space and paved way for the computer you're typing on right now. Scientific fact is a fact regardless of whether you like to deny it or not. (at this point I'd appreciate TC chipping in, he's better as this nature of argument :p)
3) Do you have the same belief system/religion as your parents? Did they raise you to believe that? If so, your parents did in-fact choose it for you.
11-10-2011, 03:34 PM
#58
Originally posted by firerock67
I actually don't have the same belief system as my parents. We are in the same religion but believe different things about it. And read the article and you'll see.
I don't need to read the article, I explained why above :p
And it's good you have slightly different beliefs from your parents, it means you're open-minded enough to have your opinions swayed. Let battle commence :bat:
11-10-2011, 03:39 PM
#59
Fire.
Im a fed.
Originally posted by Clutch
I don't need to read the article, I explained why above :p
And it's good you have slightly different beliefs from your parents, it means you're open-minded enough to have your opinions swayed. Let battle commence :bat:
And it's good you have slightly different beliefs from your parents, it means you're open-minded enough to have your opinions swayed. Let battle commence :bat:
11-10-2011, 03:47 PM
#60
Originally posted by firerock67
Please just read the beginning of the article. Or are you just not open minded enough to read it? :p
Fair enough, I've read it :p
I have however concluded that it's a poor argument, as it's essentially the same as saying "while this appears to be the case, there's always the possibility it may not be, and this possibility is what we should focus on". It's basically the same negative argument theists use to protect their belief in God, despite the fact negative arguments are worth jack-*. See what I mean?
11-10-2011, 03:50 PM
#61
Fire.
Im a fed.
Originally posted by Clutch
Fair enough, I've read it :p
I have however concluded that it's a poor argument, as it's essentially the same as saying "while this appears to be the case, there's always the possibility it may not be, and this possibility is what we should focus on". It's basically the same negative argument theists use to protect their belief in God, despite the fact negative arguments are worth jack-*. See what I mean?
I have however concluded that it's a poor argument, as it's essentially the same as saying "while this appears to be the case, there's always the possibility it may not be, and this possibility is what we should focus on". It's basically the same negative argument theists use to protect their belief in God, despite the fact negative arguments are worth jack-*. See what I mean?
11-10-2011, 04:24 PM
#62
Originally posted by firerock67
I do see what you mean. However may I pose this question. What defines a human?
I think whilst there may be an official answer to that question everyone probably has their own individual answers, which is fine.
My answer would be that once someone has a human body(or close enough to it), can feel complex emotions and has intelligence of a certain level they're what I would define as human. This rules a lot of people out which can make my answer a bit awkward, but I think you see what I mean.
How about you?
12-15-2011, 01:26 AM
#63
crazyface
Bounty hunter
Originally posted by deathkid1212
The reason why I'm asking it like this is because they both involve the killing of a human. What are your views on each of them?
To me abortion is as simple as this. Everyone has their own opinions on if abortion is right or wrong and both sides have valid points. The government shouldn't make the decision because its not their job. Make your own choice based on your morals
12-16-2011, 10:45 PM
#64
Jake
One Man Army
Originally posted by Clutch
1) I've already explained extensively to others on a different page why adoption is simply not a fair option at this point, unless it's too late for an abortion.
2) "No offense but that is the dumbest thing I think is believed." It's not a belief, it's scientific fact. You don't even need to know anything about science anymore to know that, just Google it.
3) You're religious? Well why are we debating then? It's not your opinion I'm debating with, it's your religion's opinion. It's like talking to a brick wall.
2) "No offense but that is the dumbest thing I think is believed." It's not a belief, it's scientific fact. You don't even need to know anything about science anymore to know that, just Google it.
3) You're religious? Well why are we debating then? It's not your opinion I'm debating with, it's your religion's opinion. It's like talking to a brick wall.
That's not strictly true. If you chose to believe in a religion and follow their beliefs on certain subjects, then it's still your opinion. I know way over a hundred Christians (this is just friends and family) who are devout Christians but are completely against the Christian view on gays, contraception, sex before marriage, etc.
However, I agree with you completely on this. Aborting a foetus does far less damage than allowing a 15-year old to raise a baby.
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