Post: Life on other planets?
08-02-2009, 03:42 PM #1
Human
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Have you ever wondered if there is life other than earth in the whole universe? I personally believe there is, I was watching discovery channel about making diamonds.. and they found that through the most extorodinary conditions that some bacterium survived. So in theory they should be able to multiply and make life on other planets and thrive.

Discuss.
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08-06-2009, 02:49 AM #29
elfmotat
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Originally posted by GQGK View Post
number 1: we werent talking about anything that had to do with the big bang theory


Yes we are. An expanding universe that can be traced back to a point of origin.

Originally posted by GQGK View Post
number 2: "best fits" still not 100%. so saying it has an end when you cant prove it goes against every argument you make. you say you go with what can be proved. this is like religion, it cant be proved.


It is the reasonable deduction. Just like you can't 100% prove that I actually exist. I could be a manifestation of your mind. The reasonable deduction however, is that I do exist. Everything in one way or another boils down to reasonable deduction.

The difference between faith and theory is that theory is built around and encompasses observable and testable fact, whereas faith is based on nothing - by definition belief without evidence.

Originally posted by GQGK View Post
and yes a theory can be proven, but then its no longer a theory, its a fact. fundamental ignorance of the dictionary.


LOL, you are the one with fundamental ignorance of the dictionary. When a theory is proven, it is still a theory. Just like Einstein's Relativity is still a theory even though it is testable and has been proven. It's a different definition of theory than in everyday language. Theory just means the explanation of observable facts.

Originally posted by GQGK View Post
and the big bang does not prove the universe has a boundry.


It proves it is not infinite.

Originally posted by GQGK View Post
number 3: your being like a religious person. you say what you believe and you cant prove it. you cant prove the universe ends anywhere. you cant prove it doesnt. its something you believe


It's not just something I believe for no reason (the logic of a religious person). It's something the observable facts point to.

Originally posted by GQGK View Post
look it up in a dictionary. there are 2 things, organic, and nonorganic. i'm sure you can tell the difference between that. a rock is not alive. a protozoa however is, even though it is one cell. water is not living, but fish are


Organic means carbon-based. By your logic, the soot from burnt wood is alive.


Life is something that is made from cells, grows, and reproduces independently.
08-06-2009, 06:59 AM #30
GQGK
Skillz
Originally posted by elfmotat View Post
Yes we are. An expanding universe that can be traced back to a point of origin.


no. this topic is life on other planets. did you forget? make a new thread for this.

Originally posted by another user
It is the reasonable deduction. Just like you can't 100% prove that I actually exist. I could be a manifestation of your mind. The reasonable deduction however, is that I do exist. Everything in one way or another boils down to reasonable deduction.

The difference between faith and theory is that theory is built around and encompasses observable and testable fact, whereas faith is based on nothing - by definition belief without evidence.


no... last time i checked faith was pretty testable, you just refute the evidence.

Originally posted by another user
LOL, you are the one with fundamental ignorance of the dictionary. When a theory is proven, it is still a theory. Just like Einstein's Relativity is still a theory even though it is testable and has been proven. It's a different definition of theory than in everyday language. Theory just means the explanation of observable facts.


wrong again. einstein's relativity still holds the title of theory because people dispute it. slowly the theory of part is being taken out. its not the theory of gravity. or the theory of heliocentricity. its gravity and heliocentricity. there is fact, theory, theorem, and hypothesis.

Originally posted by another user
It proves it is not infinite.


no it doesnt. it just proves our part of the universe has an origin. saying that the big bang limits our universe is absurd.

Originally posted by another user
It's not just something I believe for no reason (the logic of a religious person). It's something the observable facts point to.


there are no facts saying the universe has an end.

Originally posted by another user
Organic means carbon-based. By your logic, the soot from burnt wood is alive.


Life is something that is made from cells, grows, and reproduces independently.


organic in chemistry deals with carbon. organic in biology means living. two separate things. and to clarify your definition of living, it doesnt reproduce independently. flowers reproduce with the help of bees. they are living. i cant reproduce on my own. i need a girl too. you need to clarify the independent part up a tad. viruses are debated however do to the fact they need another host to reproduce.
08-06-2009, 08:06 AM #31
elfmotat
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Originally posted by GQGK View Post
no. this topic is life on other planets. did you forget? make a new thread for this.


I didn't start it.

Originally posted by GQGK View Post
no... last time i checked faith was pretty testable, you just refute the evidence.


Faith's definition is belief without evidence Not Happy or Sad.

Originally posted by GQGK View Post
wrong again. einstein's relativity still holds the title of theory because people dispute it. slowly the theory of part is being taken out. its not the theory of gravity. or the theory of heliocentricity. its gravity and heliocentricity. there is fact, theory, theorem, and hypothesis.


They are still testable theories. The theory of egocentricity is still called just that. Einstein's relativity has been confirmed about as much as gravity itself.

Originally posted by GQGK View Post
no it doesnt. it just proves our part of the universe has an origin. saying that the big bang limits our universe is absurd.


If something is finite at one point, it can't magically become infinite.

Originally posted by GQGK View Post
there are no facts saying the universe has an end.


What about the fact that we can only see galaxies up to 13.7 billion light years away? Or is it just coincidence that that's the estimated age of the universe?

Originally posted by GQGK View Post
organic in chemistry deals with carbon. organic in biology means living. two separate things. and to clarify your definition of living, it doesnt reproduce independently. flowers reproduce with the help of bees. they are living. i cant reproduce on my own. i need a girl too. you need to clarify the independent part up a tad. viruses are debated however do to the fact they need another host to reproduce.


I'm not making the definition up, I'm reiterating it. I meant it can reproduce without the need of another species. Flowers still have to ability to reproduce without bees, even if the bees do the majority of the work.
08-10-2009, 05:31 PM #32
Ghostwolf_14
S.P.E.C.I.A.L
So many galaxies and universes and yet people think we are the ONE and ONLY planet that has life? out of ALL those other galaxies and planets and everything?!

I believe there is another living species out there somewhere, maybe not around our solar system but surely their is more than just us here.

Not matter what people say I'm sure their something out there! :O
08-11-2009, 12:33 AM #33
elfmotat
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Has anyone ever heard of the Drake Equation?

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where:

R* is the average rate of star formation per year in our galaxy
fp is the fraction of those stars that have planets
ne is the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
fℓ is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point
fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life
fc is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L is the length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space


The estimates for which are:

R* = 7/year (7 stars formed per year, on the average over the life of the galaxy)
fp = 0.5 (half of all stars formed will have planets)
ne = 2 (stars with planets will have 2 planets capable of supporting life)
fl = 0.33 (33% of these planets will develop life)
fi = 0.01 (1% of which will be intelligent life)
fc = 0.01 (1% of which will be able to communicate)
L = 10,000 years (which will last 10,000 years)

N = 7 × 0.5 × 2 × 0.33 × 0.01 × 0.01 × 10000 = 2.31

Therefore we should at this point be able to detect at least two other intelligent species within the galaxy.


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08-11-2009, 12:49 AM #34
Dandyman2
The Only Krazy
as far as i'm concerned we know merely a tiny proportion about space. As far as im concerned were probably like a grain of sand compared to the earth.
08-12-2009, 03:44 AM #35
Valimen
Who’s Jim Erased?
Life could refer to vegetation, not only aliens. So i do believe there is "life" in other planets and solar systems.
08-12-2009, 11:08 AM #36
Antones
Blood of Innocence
Originally posted by Outsider
At first, I was like "hell no whoever thinks that is ****ing stupid, there isn't aliens". But then someone in my class said "You're ignorant if you really think there is no life on solar systems outside of ours, different universes". It made me think differently about my opinion. And now it has changed, to that there could be life outsde of Earth. (Ghosts still aren't real.)


I stongley believe there is life behind our Galaxy. But in our galaxy even the smallest of bacteria on any planet counts of life.

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