Post: Death Penalty, UK
07-10-2012, 10:14 AM #1
iChris
Little One
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Was having a look at some news articles earlier and some of the things people have been locked up for are repugnant. Especially seeing as how a lot of prisons are full, unable to take new inmates. I reckon for severe or repeated crimes you should receive the death penalty, perhaps then the crime in the UK would reduce; as would the overall number of the population but no one can complain for good over evil.

On a side note, I fucking loath the fact that eastern europeans have pretty much flocked the prison system of the UK. Thousands of them are locked up each day. Also, fuck human rights.
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08-23-2012, 01:43 PM #29
Jake
One Man Army
Originally posted by Clutch
2) Making an example out of these people won't work. Most murders and rapes etc aren't planned. They don't think about the potential punishment until it's too late.


In fairness you probably won't get the death penalty if the crime wasn't premeditated.
08-24-2012, 11:37 PM #30
despk
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They need to bring back the death penalty when a sever case happens. Like mass murder which to me should be a death penalty.
Though there is some cases is hard to determine as innocent people can go to jail and giving them death penalty would suck.
08-31-2012, 08:25 PM #31
rhys0065
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Originally posted by iChris View Post
Was having a look at some news articles earlier and some of the things people have been locked up for are repugnant. Especially seeing as how a lot of prisons are full, unable to take new inmates. I reckon for severe or repeated crimes you should receive the death penalty, perhaps then the crime in the UK would reduce; as would the overall number of the population but no one can complain for good over evil.

On a side note, I fucking loath the fact that eastern europeans have pretty much flocked the prison system of the UK. Thousands of them are locked up each day. Also, fuck human rights.


In my opinion i think if someone kills another person they should receive the death penalty.i mean if someone tryed robbing a phone or money and the guy wouldnt give it up and got stabbed and died,than the person who commited the crime should be put to death.but if someone broke into your house and u killed them,you shouldnt get the death penalty because it was self defense.it would be complicated to inforce.i also think most laws should be rethought and some be more severe,i know people that have went to rob someones phone and when the guy didnt give it up he got the shit kicked out of him by six people,he needed mouth surgery because his jaw was broke and his gums were pushed back into his mouth,and guess what happend to the scum who did this,they were sent a JLO and have to be inside before 1am for a few months,i think that deserves a 20+ year conviction.it seems harsh and moronic but if the law was like this the country would be so much better.
09-01-2012, 06:03 AM #32
Ben
Former Staff
Don't agree with the death penalty for number of reasons.

1) As Clutch Hunterr said, there is the risk of killing an innocent man.

2) It's the easy way out, if you've murdered someone and sentenced to life in prison, you could get the death penalty and escape the torture of living the rest of your life in a cell.

3) Assisted suicide, (in a way) it must be absolute torture for the people shooting in that firing line. To be ordered to shoot at a man and kill him.

Then comes Anders Breivik, the complete and utter fucktard that he is. If I was that judge, I lock him up in a black room with no windows, full of mosquitos and insects, just to torture him, just to make him realise what a complete retard he is. Give him enough food to survive.

I agree with torture, just make the lives on those sons of bitches miserable.

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09-02-2012, 02:04 PM #33
I completely agree with iChris as far as paying for these wasters goes. Why the hell should we pay for murderers and rapists to live a worry free existence - no bills, no debt, no worrying about how you're going to feed your family. It's all put on a platter for them isn't it? Regardless of how 'hard' prison is, they're getting 3 meals a day, shelter and all the other benefis without actually grafting like the rest of us.

Trouble with adopting the death penalty and a death row system is that by the time they're actually put to death we've already forked out hundreds of thousands keeping them. Look at the US - some people are on death row 10-15 years before they die. Wouldn't solve the financial issue we have would it?
09-02-2012, 02:37 PM #34
Originally posted by troublesome View Post
I completely agree with iChris as far as paying for these wasters goes.


Plenty of these 'wasters' will go on to live in harmony with the rest of society. Rehabilitation is very effective.

Originally posted by another user
Why the hell should we pay for murderers and rapists to live a worry free existence - no bills, no debt, no worrying about how you're going to feed your family.


No, because being raped by fellow prisoners and not being able to provide for your family on the outside is so much better than getting a few bills. Get real.

Originally posted by another user
It's all put on a platter for them isn't it? Regardless of how 'hard' prison is, they're getting 3 meals a day, shelter and all the other benefits without actually grafting like the rest of us.


See above.

Originally posted by another user
Trouble with adopting the death penalty and a death row system is that by the time they're actually put to death we've already forked out hundreds of thousands keeping them. Look at the US - some people are on death row 10-15 years before they die. Wouldn't solve the financial issue we have would it?


No, it wouldn't. And even if it did, you're going to kill someone for the sake of some paper money. Money is virtual, and a life is priceless by comparison. I'd like to see you try to put to death a breathing, thinking, feeling person regardless of what crime they're purported to have done.

There's also the far worse issue of potentially putting to death an innocent person. Paraphrasing someone whose name I've forgotten, "I'd much rather free a guilty man than put to death an innocent one."

Finally, a quote from George Orwell: "It is curious, but till that moment I had never realized what it means to destroy a healthy, conscious man. When I saw the prisoner step aside to avoid the puddle, I saw the mystery, the unspeakable wrongness, of cutting a life short when it is in full tide. This man was not dying, he was alive just as we were alive. All the organs of his body were working -- bowels digesting food, skin renewing itself, nails growing, tissues forming -- all toiling away in solemn foolery. His nails would still be growing when he stood on the drop, when he was falling through the air with a tenth of a second to live. His eyes saw the yellow gravel and the grey walls, and his brain still remembered, foresaw, reasoned -- reasoned even about puddles. He and we were a party of men walking together, seeing, hearing, feeling, understanding the same world; and in two minutes, with a sudden snap, one of us would be gone -- one mind less, one world less."
09-02-2012, 02:51 PM #35
I'm for rehabilitation too, if it's appropriate. I don't think its appropriate for rapists and murderers - which my post was referring to mainly - because what are the consequences if it fails? More people are murdered and raped. Bit different if it's a common thief or drug abuser funding his habit through crime. Do you want to live alongside rapists, murderers or paedophiles? Reformed or otherwise, I don't want to.
09-02-2012, 04:06 PM #36
LeeTemplar
Pokemon Trainer
Yes is time to Death Penalty in UK and in Brazil.
09-02-2012, 04:18 PM #37
Kate Upton
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Originally posted by iChris View Post
Was having a look at some news articles earlier and some of the things people have been locked up for are repugnant. Especially seeing as how a lot of prisons are full, unable to take new inmates. I reckon for severe or repeated crimes you should receive the death penalty, perhaps then the crime in the UK would reduce; as would the overall number of the population but no one can complain for good over evil.

On a side note, I fucking loath the fact that eastern europeans have pretty much flocked the prison system of the UK. Thousands of them are locked up each day. Also, fuck human rights.


Im so fucking for the Death Penalty in the UK, as you said prisons are getting full. Maybe if the government decided to do something for severe as punishment for certain crimes such as murder.. then maybe it won't be taken as lightly as it is or people would definitely think twice before doing a foolish act!

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