Post: Guns.
07-20-2012, 11:40 PM #1
Frog
Gotta risk it for the biscuit
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Well I'll start off by saying that I am an avid gun lover, own some guns myself, love to shoot etc. But what I'm curious about is what you people think. I believe guns are amazing devices as they save lives everyday. I strongly believe that guns shouldn't ever become illegal, as there are millions of people who own guns and take care of them responsibly. Occasionally we have bad people that do bad things; especially with the Colorado shootings that happened on 20/4/12 but I do not believe others should have to lose their rights because of some thing some psychopath did. Guns do not have a mind of their own, if you told a gun to kill someone/thing it obviously wouldn't do it, its people that are bad; not the guns. I believe that guns are great tools, for protection, defense, and many other things. I hope that guns aren't ever illegal, as then you're defenseless and just a "bitch" per say. I could get all political on you guys, but thats not what my intentions are in this thread. So saying that, what do you guys think.\

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"The first thing you have to do is disarm the people. A disarmed public can't fight back" -- Adolf Hitler
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07-21-2012, 03:31 AM #20
Grumpy
Grumpy is God.
Originally posted by Frog View Post
OP


You know I have always liked guns, people need to realize that guns save a shit load more lives than they take. People say oh no, I hate guns they cause violence they are bad, they kill people etc. they save so many more people than the kill. Not to mention that as Gizmo said guns over in the United Kingdom are illegal without exception but people that have bad plans still manage to get ahold of them.

They are still always on the black markets. Another words if you want to do bad things guns being illegal would not stop them. I own several guns and throughout my household there are plenty. I plan on getting my pistol license at 21 and carrying a handgun also. You know when you buy a gun you don't buy it planning on shooting someone unless you have bad intentions that is but it first of all brings a feeling of safety to you and those around you not to mention for example the movie theatre shooting he wouldn't of killed 14 people if somebody would have shot that mother fucker in the head.

That's my take on guns.

/Discuss.

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07-21-2012, 12:16 PM #21
TAFF
Climbing up the ladder
Originally posted by Cpt.Slow View Post
Guns don't kill people... bullets do.... we don't need gun control we need bullet control..




I was just about to post this then I saw your post. I find this clip hilarious :happygrin:

Guns don't kill people, rappers do.
07-21-2012, 12:42 PM #22
NorCal
Banned
Originally posted by iLLuSiOnZ915 View Post
The army should only have guns, regular citizens should not be allowed to have guns. That way no stupid killings happen.


Um, how old are you? My family owns guns, I hunt, nothing bad ever happens. So you're saying that the government should take away our constitutional rights and take our guns away, that would cause more violence buddy.

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Originally posted by Frog View Post
Don't take this personally or anything.. but you're a complete idiot for thinking that. I mean, I honestly can't even take you seriously.



I live in California, and we have the 10bullet max mag rule here as well. Along with no full auto and no foregrips on semi-automatic rifles.. which i think is stupid.. what am going to use a foregrip for? a bolt action? But anyways, AK's are really cheap guns and being so affordable it can get into the wrong hands quickly. I mean AR15's (M4's) cost $1500+, you can get an AK for under $500. I have a Ruger 10/22, a Mini-M14, a Glock 19, a Remington 870 shotgun, and a Remington 700 bolt action rifle. I also use some of my guns my dad has, which i can't even count lol. But still, even at semi-auto its still fun to go shoot at targets anywhere from 50 to 700 yards and test your accuracy.


Just thought i'd correct you, a AR-15 is a civilian version of the M16.not M4 :y:

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Originally posted by NorCal View Post
Um, how old are you? My family owns guns, I hunt, nothing bad ever happens. So you're saying that the government should take away our constitutional rights and take our guns away, that would cause more violence buddy.

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Just thought i'd correct you, a AR-15 is a civilian version of the M16.not M4 :y:


Also, for all the people who wana say i know nothing about guns, for the hell of it when i was 15 I took these NRA youth classes and im a sharpshooter by NRA standards. And just to clarify, all standards are the same for kids and adults, so i didnt have it easy. And to qualify has a sharpshooter for the the NRA you need to score i believe 25 or 35 points 10 times,which isnt that easy lol. and then you can try for expert which is 10 sitting,10prone,and 10 standing all with 45 point score or higher, imv not that good yet :p


How did i quote myself wat
07-21-2012, 01:14 PM #23
i--DanieL_
Edgier than an octagon
Yeah sure there's nothing wrong with sensible people owning guns and denying the psychopaths of the privilege. But when there's literally millions of guns in circulation how hard would it be for a crazy person to get his hands on one and go on a rampage. Idiots can get their hands on guns very easily so it would be better if there were no guns at all.

Think about it. The only reason you guys feel the need to have a gun is to protect yourselves from other people with guns, wouldn't it be better if there were no guns at all? Here in Ireland there really is very few guns with a few exceptions, farmers, certain divisions of the guards etc. because there is very few guns I don't feel the need to go out and buy one for my own protection, do you not think this is easier?

Of course the shit that happened in Colorado wasn't an accurate representation of the full population but say you owned a gun and had a mental breakdown, maybe started taking drugs and such, what's to stop you from going out and emptying a few mags into a crowded area? I know a lot of you guys aren't going to like this post but it does make sense. The world would be a much better place if idiots couldn't get their hands on guns.
07-21-2012, 07:59 PM #24
Frog
Gotta risk it for the biscuit
Originally posted by NorCal View Post
Um, how old are you? My family owns guns, I hunt, nothing bad ever happens. So you're saying that the government should take away our constitutional rights and take our guns away, that would cause more violence buddy.

---------- Post added at 08:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:30 AM ----------



Just thought i'd correct you, a AR-15 is a civilian version of the M16.not M4 :y:

---------- Post added at 08:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:33 AM ----------



Also, for all the people who wana say i know nothing about guns, for the hell of it when i was 15 I took these NRA youth classes and im a sharpshooter by NRA standards. And just to clarify, all standards are the same for kids and adults, so i didnt have it easy. And to qualify has a sharpshooter for the the NRA you need to score i believe 25 or 35 points 10 times,which isnt that easy lol. and then you can try for expert which is 10 sitting,10prone,and 10 standing all with 45 point score or higher, imv not that good yet :p


How did i quote myself wat

M4 and M16 are essentially the same thing, same gas system, same take down, same parts, etc. only difference is the M16 has a 20inch barrel and the M4 has a 14.5in barrel... which can be interchanged. Just saying ^^

As for the the rest of your response, I'm not into that competition shooting stuff, I like to shoot skeet and other shit with my shotgun but other than that shooting at target is much more entertaining for me.

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Originally posted by i
Yeah sure there's nothing wrong with sensible people owning guns and denying the psychopaths of the privilege. But when there's literally millions of guns in circulation how hard would it be for a crazy person to get his hands on one and go on a rampage. Idiots can get their hands on guns very easily so it would be better if there were no guns at all.

Think about it. The only reason you guys feel the need to have a gun is to protect yourselves from other people with guns, wouldn't it be better if there were no guns at all? Here in Ireland there really is very few guns with a few exceptions, farmers, certain divisions of the guards etc. because there is very few guns I don't feel the need to go out and buy one for my own protection, do you not think this is easier?

Of course the shit that happened in Colorado wasn't an accurate representation of the full population but say you owned a gun and had a mental breakdown, maybe started taking drugs and such, what's to stop you from going out and emptying a few mags into a crowded area? I know a lot of you guys aren't going to like this post but it does make sense. The world would be a much better place if idiots couldn't get their hands on guns.


What you fail to see is how reasonable your post is, there will always be guns, always. No matter how hard a dictator tries to get rid of guns in a country, there will still be guns. And guns aren't just to protect from other guns, what if you had a robbery and someone threatened to stab you? There are more stabbings than shootings so are you saying knives should become illegal? Like the picture says 65,000,000 legal gun owners didn't do anything. There will always be a bad apple.

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Originally posted by Grumpy View Post
You know I have always liked guns, people need to realize that guns save a shit load more lives than they take. People say oh no, I hate guns they cause violence they are bad, they kill people etc. they save so many more people than the kill. Not to mention that as Gizmo said guns over in the United Kingdom are illegal without exception but people that have bad plans still manage to get ahold of them.

They are still always on the black markets. Another words if you want to do bad things guns being illegal would not stop them. I own several guns and throughout my household there are plenty. I plan on getting my pistol license at 21 and carrying a handgun also. You know when you buy a gun you don't buy it planning on shooting someone unless you have bad intentions that is but it first of all brings a feeling of safety to you and those around you not to mention for example the movie theatre shooting he wouldn't of killed 14 people if somebody would have shot that mother fucker in the head.

That's my take on guns.

/Discuss.


Agreed. :y:

No concealed carry here in California :fa: But that wont stop me from owning firearms.

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07-21-2012, 08:10 PM #25
Hannah
Banned
Originally posted by Frog View Post
its people that are bad; not the guns


I have only one thing to say about this. I think guns are okay, in a retrospect of a tool for hunting and self defense. Nobody really needs a Saiga 12k or any other sort of semi-automatic shotgun to go kill a deer though. I believe that, to a certain extent, people have to understand certain firearms should only be available to military due to the fact that there is no practical use for it in a normal life. People who own assault shotguns for "quail hunting" should really reconsider their understanding of quail hunting.
07-21-2012, 08:46 PM #26
BAMF
Social Engineer
Originally posted by kenneyfive View Post
Guns don't kill people
I kill people
with guns

Originally posted by MATT23116 View Post
Guns don't kill people. I kill people... with guns.


I'm a menace of society, a boy on the hood.
07-22-2012, 01:53 AM #27
NorCal
Banned
Originally posted by Frog View Post
M4 and M16 are essentially the same thing, same gas system, same take down, same parts, etc. only difference is the M16 has a 20inch barrel and the M4 has a 14.5in barrel... which can be interchanged. Just saying ^^

As for the the rest of your response, I'm not into that competition shooting stuff, I like to shoot skeet and other shit with my shotgun but other than that shooting at target is much more entertaining for me.

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What you fail to see is how reasonable your post is, there will always be guns, always. No matter how hard a dictator tries to get rid of guns in a country, there will still be guns. And guns aren't just to protect from other guns, what if you had a robbery and someone threatened to stab you? There are more stabbings than shootings so are you saying knives should become illegal? Like the picture says 65,000,000 legal gun owners didn't do anything. There will always be a bad apple.

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Agreed. :y:

No concealed carry here in California :fa: But that wont stop me from owning firearms.



Yea, and plus the stocks are different, but thats all :p But truly, the AR-15 is a civilian version of the m16

Also, cali doesnt have concealed carries? What about open carries?
07-22-2012, 01:53 AM #28
gamer89117
Can’t trickshot me!
the whole make guns illegal deal is just plain stupid. if you are going to use a gun to do something bad it is usually illegal anyways so what is going to stop them from illegally getting a gun and using it against all of the know unarmed citizens because guns were made illegal?

making guns illegal will only make the world a worse and scarier place because the only people with guns are the bad people and you will have nothing to protect yourself.

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