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now this is really a mix between a potential discussion and a question.

I am very keen when it comes to working out, I go to the gym 4 times a week and try to go for as long as possible. I recently started taking supplements and a friend of mine who is a personal trainer told me to start off with a supplement called CLA (Conjugated linoleic acid). It is a non-essential fatty burning acid which allows you to burn more calories for longer, aiding in fat loss and muscle growth. In short it is supposed to give you a lot of energy.

Now I'm almost at the end of my months cycle and I'm not noticing anything on a daily basis at the moment. When I first started taking them I felt like I was full of energy, but now I just feel normal. It has me questioning the supplement and considering if its a placebo effective drug.

here is a detailed summary of what the placebo effect is:



a short sentence to sum it up: it's a fake drug that makes you think its "curing" you, but really it does nothing, and helps you get over what ever you're suffering, mentally.

Now the heart of the discussion is, do you think I'm under the placebo effect? Or is the drug actually working? Because there have been many positive results since I started, and I know many people that say this helped them very much when they wanted to achieve the same thing.

if you've been taking the product for a month & havent noticed changes, stop taking it...

i thought the ultimate placebo effect supplement was acai, but ive never heard what your taking...

whoever said supplements dont work take a look at a bodybuilder, you think they get like that on a healthy diet alone?

obviously you dont need supplements if you have a perfect diet with the correct intake of proteins, carbs, fat, vit, min etc, but you still wont see results as fast or great without supplements...

for you i'd recommend a diet protein shake, i hear phd belgian choc is good, maybe an all in one supplement for pre/post workout like synergy & creatine, either pills or flavourless powder, along with a healthy diet & working out, you will see results!!!

you should have 7 or more meals a day, on workout day the diet protein & pre/post workout count as 3 meals on rest days take protein twice & all in one once so it 3 meals still, you can swich the diet protein for mass gainer for carbs & fibre or have both & alternate & do high intensity training...

Lolkid? Again I'm in college, so most certainly not a kid. And supplements like Creatine occur naturally in the body (because I'm assuming you eat meat) where you are already getting (for the most part) the maximum amount needed. Supplements like Creatine and protein shakes for body building don't have to be tested by government regulators like the FDA, so excuse me for my lack of trust towards the safety and scientifically proven effectiveness of said supplements. Good day kid.

show me one bodybuilder who doesn't take supplements!!!

You're not going to make it far if you seek validity from the government when studies have already proved it to be effective.

So essentially what you are saying is that you are fine with consuming a product that has not been tested by the FDA? What about examples like Cocaine and Coca Cola (which eventually became smaller amounts til eventually none in the recipe?)

The FDA is nothing. It's been proven already that is helps, I don't need the FDA for something that's already been verified. What about the Coca Cola thing? It has no relevance, cocaine had no significance back then. It helps to speed up the release of endorphins, dopamine, etc. - that's why they used it in the drink - to make it more enjoyable.

The FDA is nothing? What kind of retard are you? I'll say this, Creatine may not be bad for you, but there are other supplements that body builders and such have been using for years and it wasn't until recently scientific bodies and government organizations like the FDA proved them to be dangerous. For example: GHB, GBL, BD, Androstenedione, as well as many supplements with Xtreme in their name. So kid, you know nothing obviously. If it weren't for scientific research and the FDA, people would still be consuming this garbage. But then again, you're fine with cancer I presume?

He obviously hasn't seen those commercials advertising a new drug as good and safe, but 3 months later another commercial comes out saying "If you or someone you love has used so and so in the past 3 months, and is suffering from this and that, you must take legal action now."

Thank you someone with a brain. It doesn't matter if it's a supplement or not. Any substance has the potential to have negative consequences and without third party research and government organizations like the FDA, we'd all be screwed. It wasn't that long ago when asbestos and lead-based paint was all fine and dandy to use and now we know they are alll cancerous.