Post: My largest question about god
01-06-2013, 10:35 PM #1
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The most puzzling question i have about god is how is it possible that god is infinite future and infinite past. I use this analogy to explain my point, imagine an infinitely long highway, its infinitely long in the north direction and infinitely in the south direction. This highway represents god. The length of the highway represents time, and the highway is infinite. This means that god has come in from the middle of the highway and started creating the north end and south end at the same time. That would mean that the past is still being created and the future is still being created. The reason i say god came in the middle is because if you think about it, that is the only way a man could create an infinitely expanding highway in both direction, let’s say you had a million guys working on the north end and the south end. And they NEVER stop building in any direction because the south end never stops and the north end never stops because the highway is infinite. Remember the highway represents time, or “Gods time/lifetime” if you will.
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01-11-2013, 07:31 PM #29
i had a creepy message about god on psn
01-11-2013, 11:05 PM #30
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
There's a pedophile priest joke there somewhere, but we'll leave it...
01-20-2013, 12:35 AM #31
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Originally posted by Lamputt View Post
Ive watched too much discovery channel to believe in God. We all came from the spontaneous "Big Bang."
Since time began with the Big Bang, there was no previous moment in time for any God to create the Big Bang.

That is very ignorant, what started or created the big bang? when you answer that i have another question for you. What started the thing that started the big bang? When you answer that i have another question for you. What started the thing that started the thing that started the big bang? When you answer that i have another question for you.......................

Im not saying that your ignorant for not believeing in god, im saying that because you didnt ask my question about infinite time, you make it seem like you believe the big bang started every thing when in fact, it wasent even near the begining, for the way i see it there cant be a beginning of time, something had to start something that had to start something.

Also other dimensions dont answer my question, if dimensions also have a past and a future.
01-20-2013, 02:04 AM #32
Originally posted by SLiiTH3R View Post
That is very ignorant, what started or created the big bang? when you answer that i have another question for you. What started the thing that started the big bang? When you answer that i have another question for you. What started the thing that started the thing that started the big bang? When you answer that i have another question for you.......................

Im not saying that your ignorant for not believeing in god, im saying that because you didnt ask my question about infinite time, you make it seem like you believe the big bang started every thing when in fact, it wasent even near the begining, for the way i see it there cant be a beginning of time, something had to start something that had to start something.

Also other dimensions dont answer my question, if dimensions also have a past and a future.


The word "before" can't really be applied to the big bang as it started time.

The science isn't false just because it's difficult for the mind to comprehend.

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01-20-2013, 02:47 AM #33
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Originally posted by Clutch
The word "before" can't really be applied to the big bang as it started time.

The science isn't false just because it's difficult for the mind to comprehend.


aaaaaah but that is where you contradict yourself. That also means you cant use the word "started".

Allow me to elaborate. If you say the big bang started time that would mean that what ever equated to the big bang had to have come before it. IN that case if something comes before something its chronlological. Which is directly related to time. TIME.

x-->big bang--->time
x= something before the big bang implying that time was before the big bang. The big bang itself is flawed because as another person said, "With the big bang thing... It makes a start... But it have always been there..." implying time. He also said, "wait wait wait.... Time = Movement... The universe have always been there." I agree with this too, but not only is time = to movement but it is also equal to existance in my somewhat factual opinion.
Clearly the big bang THEORY is flawed, and heck it is a theory after all.
01-20-2013, 04:16 AM #34
Originally posted by SLiiTH3R View Post
aaaaaah but that is where you contradict yourself. That also means you cant use the word "started".

Allow me to elaborate. If you say the big bang started time that would mean that what ever equated to the big bang had to have come before it. IN that case if something comes before something its chronlological. Which is directly related to time. TIME.

x-->big bang--->time
x= something before the big bang implying that time was before the big bang. The big bang itself is flawed because as another person said, "With the big bang thing... It makes a start... But it have always been there..." implying time. He also said, "wait wait wait.... Time = Movement... The universe have always been there." I agree with this too, but not only is time = to movement but it is also equal to existance in my somewhat factual opinion.
Clearly the big bang THEORY is flawed, and heck it is a theory after all.


How old are you? The scientific ignorance here is absolutely astounding. Offence intended(this is the part where you go learn how science works, et cetera).

1) A beginning does not implicitly imply a before to said beginning due to the unique subject matter. You're just used to talking specifically within time, so your mind is having trouble comprehending it. That's normal. I'd be surprised if Stephen Hawking can really comprehend that after a life full of what we're used to. This is similar to the fallacy people commit when they say "everything I know has a creator and therefore so does X".

2) The big bang theory is flawed? Please submit your paper on its flaws and collect your Nobel prize.

3) Just a theory, eh? You clearly don't know how theories work in science - they are "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."

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01-20-2013, 05:21 AM #35
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Originally posted by SLiiTH3R View Post
aaaaaah but that is where you contradict yourself. That also means you cant use the word "started".

Allow me to elaborate. If you say the big bang started time that would mean that what ever equated to the big bang had to have come before it. IN that case if something comes before something its chronlological. Which is directly related to time. TIME.

x-->big bang--->time
x= something before the big bang implying that time was before the big bang. The big bang itself is flawed because as another person said, "With the big bang thing... It makes a start... But it have always been there..." implying time. He also said, "wait wait wait.... Time = Movement... The universe have always been there." I agree with this too, but not only is time = to movement but it is also equal to existance in my somewhat factual opinion.
Clearly the big bang THEORY is flawed, and heck it is a theory after all.


If you actually knew any part of the big bang theory, or the work that is still going on to support and expand the theory, you would know that the theory does support something being there before the big bang - just not in the conventional sense.
Before the 'Big bang' the theory provides that a singularity - a single point of infinite density and energy - existed. Since everything was at this one point space, and so time which is in direct proportion to space's existence, did not exist. It was not until after the rapid expansion called the big bang theory - currently supported to have happened due to the opposing forces contained in this singularity- that space and time existed.

And yes this theory does need a little bit of faith in the fact that this singularity simply existed
but at least this faith is based on more than the tales contained in a book written 2000+ years ago
02-02-2013, 04:23 PM #36
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Originally posted by Clutch
How old are you? The scientific ignorance here is absolutely astounding. Offence intended(this is the part where you go learn how science works, et cetera).

1) A beginning does not implicitly imply a before to said beginning due to the unique subject matter. You're just used to talking specifically within time, so your mind is having trouble comprehending it. That's normal. I'd be surprised if Stephen Hawking can really comprehend that after a life full of what we're used to. This is similar to the fallacy people commit when they say "everything I know has a creator and therefore so does X".

2) The big bang theory is flawed? Please submit your paper on its flaws and collect your Nobel prize.

3) Just a theory, eh? You clearly don't know how theories work in science - they are "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."


your first point is wrong. In every aspect of life there is a subsequent event to a beginning.
im 15 btw. Fuck you offence intended.
your great at being wrong(offence intended.)
02-02-2013, 07:05 PM #37
Dman93
Crawl to your cross
Originally posted by Ehhx View Post
Whatever you prefer is up to you. God will always have his hands and heart open, unlike the devil , which WILL give you what you want but in return for something (like your soul) and once you stop giving him stuff , you are done for.


Are you for real?

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Originally posted by Dr.
is there any proof of Him NOT being there?


That is the stupidest thing ever to say. There is no proof of something not being there but yet you believe. So I think a giant cat runs the universe please prove me wrong as there is no prove to say otherwise.

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Originally posted by Ehhx View Post
You don't deserve god in your life since you are denying him right now , but one day you may really need him and he WILL be there but just don't deny him anymore.


Yeah like he is there for all those kids with cancers, he was really there for them .Grown up and stop believing in fairy tales.

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