I can tell you have never even looked into owning an AMD product in your life. First of all AMD CPU's don't "heat up pretty fast." Actually Intel chips heat up much faster compared to AMD chips. Most AMD chips don't even hit 60 degrees under full load. They use a different type of silicon in their chips that make their chips overall cooler, however they cannot withstand 70+ degree temps on the chips, but they'll never hit those if you are running something like an H100.

I don't know if you've seen the 3770k temps. Intel crapped out and saved cash by using a very poor IHS. Not only that but the 22nm manufacturing process and the very tightly packed transistors caused even more problems for heat dissipation. I'm not sure why countries have anything to do with this. The chips you buy in the UK are the same as they are in Canada, or in the USA.

I highly doubt your machine only has 20 degree temps when rocking 5GHz. The voltage for that chip is at least 1.4V. My 2600k with a H80 isn't even hitting those temps at 4.3GHz on idle. And you are still missing the point. The point is that the 8350 is still the best chip out there for the money. Sure the 3770k almost always beats it, but it's an extra 100+ dollars for not that huge increases in performance. I know the intel chip is better, but Intel has always been a little more on the expensive side of things.

And I don't know what you mean by "drops in value extremely quickly". You mean resale? Or do you mean the retail prices drop quickly? Regardless of that, every PC part looses value.

And finally, AMD chips are much more overclockable in general. The 8350 can go from 4GHz to 5Ghz on almost all chips. They can withstand more voltage and appeal to those who are exotic coolers because they can hit ridiculous clock speeds using liquid nitrogen (like 7-8Ghz).

Intel has a voltage/heat barrier. Every intel chip has one, although some are at much higher clock speeds. There is very little consistency with Intel chips, meaning that you could buy one but the overclock you can hit on it is a hit or miss. Some people get lucky and get one that hits 5Ghz, while others can't even get close to 4.5GHz. Also, Intel chips have a voltage wall. Eg. I'm at 4.5Ghz using 1.36V. If I want to get 4.6GHz I will need to increase my voltage all the way to 1.45V. These are problems that a lot of Intel chips had, especially during Sandy Bridge times.

AMD chips don't have the above problems nearly as much, and are far more consistent when it comes to overclocking.

And the GPU overheating on the AMD side of things is just bogus. GPU's are made to withstand higher temps for prolonged periods of time. Anyone who leaves fans on auto while doing hardcore gaming is going to hit high temps. Download MSI Afterburner and increase the fan speed, and your problem is solved. If I leave my 580 while gaming on auto fans it will hit 80 degrees. If I turn the fans up it won't even touch 70 degrees. It boggles my mind how people can just leave the fans on auto then complain about their GPU temps.

Well, looking into the site that you have suggested me, the intel 1 destroy the 8 cores at 4ghz of amd in terms of FPS. So, what details should i look for choosing a cpu? i know you have said it's all about the architecture but... how can i know which one is better in terms of numbers xD

Thx for the answer!

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Thx for the answer, however i was watching the site that Millz suggested me, and as i see the intel is always better in terms of fps. i dont know to what belive xD
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Thx again

I would agree to disagree. I'll be honest last time I used AMD was in 1999/2001 i think. And I did say GENERALLY SPEAKING intel cpus are better. You can check every forum and they will say the same thing that Intel cpus in the long run are better. Anyway thanks for your thoughts/opinions, I will check up on that AMD cpu. Nice chatting to you. Nice to see a few grown ups on NGU.

you never stated what you were doing the amd 8350 will win in gaming though but both are good

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9/10 people are intel fanboys who say that.

Intel has always been better. Who ever tells you AMD performs better then Intel is lost in the head. Also AMD value drops pretty fast compared to Intel. Intel will out perform Amd in 98% of bench mark testing.

Well everyone is free to say what they think, however i never had AMD, but i had a computer rig, and the CPU intel gave me problems, but also the ati GPU (that if im not wrong is from AMD). now i have a stupid notebook, and a day i got mad with it because the integrated graphic of intel.
However from what i hear, everyone say that intel is better, so before i buy a cpu i would like to understand why everyone tell that. Thx for telling me the urs!

What about alien gaming laptop? I think that would be ok to use?

lol ..so I'm guessing your a AMD fanboy?

Nooo please, for god sake, i'm sick of laptop! i hate them though i had an alien one! i have it but i carry it nowhere so i have no point to chose a laptop. they overheat, they burns after a year, the batteries sucks... well you ve understood that i hate them xD

no :ha!: i 2 intels and a amd but nice try

you never stated what you were doing the amd 8350 will win in gaming though but both are good

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9/10 people are intel fanboys who say that.