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My how the tables have turned once again. A surprising turn of events occurred the other day. In regards with the court case between George Hotz (Geohot) and the Sony Corporation. The Judge overhearing the case actually went into the favor of Sony Corporation.

The judge decided California did indeed have jurisdiction of the case and granted Sony's request for a temporary restraining order (TRO) against George Hotz.

What does this mean? It means that he has to surrender his PC's, PlayStation 3 consoles and just basically anything he used while hacking into the PlayStation 3 console/gaming equipment.

So in this thread I would like to see what your comments about this is. Do you feel bad for him or do you agree? Can't wait to see what you guys have to comment on.

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Thats like a car company sueing your for changing the transmission to YOUR car.

No, when comparing things you should use something of equal value or measure. Your example would apply to somebody upgrading their hdd. Geohot altered the software to add extra features.

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Hypothetically compare your house to your console. Say you've bought your house, and payed for all the materials. This is like buying a PS3, you've only payed for the hardware. There are additional bills to pay for a house to provide electricity and what not, just like there are terms and conditions when buying a console that runs the manufacturers software. You can't alter your bills just because the prices don't suit you, like you can't alter the software because it's missing something that you want. If you don't pay your bills, those things get taken away from you, if you don't abide by the terms and conditions, those things get taken away from you and as we can see you get sued.

Sorry for the long post, I should actually be asleep :FU: But I'm tired and bored and couldn't resist a legit fanboy post (Doesn't happen often lol) But this will probably bite me in the ass :n00b:

No.

Read the TOS.

Well, if I don't like how it works, then I'll change how it works adjusting it to my needs. If we are breaking the law by jailbreaking, then Sony also broke the law by removing a key feature (OtherOS).

Great, another dip-shit.

Sony created it, they can change it and tamper with it all they want.
Also, you can change it to fit your needs all you want but remember it's illegal.

Don't mention bills as this implies money which mean it promotes piracy, while Geohot strictly mentioned that he didn't promote piracy and his firmware shouldn't be used for it. Money is completely different and custom OS has been around for the iPod/iPhone which actually comes across many piracy issues. By the way what should they sue him for? Releasing the keys for free? This is a pathetic attempt by Sony to fix a problem they left in the open for a long time. How is having a custom OS for the PS3 any different than custom OS for the iPhone/iPod?

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I did... Geohot bought the PS3. Therefore he now owns it.

Keep the flaming off, I thought we were having a mature conversation.
You need to realize that if you buy the product, then you OWN it, I'll do whatever I feel like, If I want to destroy it with a ****ing Bull-dozer then I'll do it.

I don't know how Sony expected people were going to pay $300+ just to play games in a console. The damn thing has a lot of potential. If that were the case, then why they didn't simply put a simple dashboard, strip all features different than executing games and lower the price to less than $200?

In the old days, people bought the PS3 because it had backwards compatibility and OtherOS, you could essentially turn it in a PC, something the other consoles do not offer, but now it's just like the others, but more strict.

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Quoted to notify you too.

If you see if from another point, the hackers are HELPING the companies, making they to learn from their errors and improve.

Once you buy something, that doesn't give you the right to change it illegally.
You obviously didn't read the TOS.

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Once again, just because you bought it doesn't mean it's yours. You have the right to play it and such BUT once you start tampering and jailbreaking your PS3 all bets are off. Sony can give you a fine if they wanted to, instead they just ban the PS3 ID. If you want to cheat because you need to cheat for the fact you suck at the games go to PC.

That can't make it illegal to jailbreak it. The best they can do is say do it at your own risk and if caught you're banned. Plus, the OP was about Geohot being sued, so answer me what are the conditions on which they are suing him under.