Post: Rac3rX GT6 Tuning Tools / Camber / Gear / Suspension
04-24-2014, 06:38 PM #1
SiNiST3R
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The tuning technique works best with no assist.

They are straight forward. And designed to aide tuners tune the car based on how it performs. All of the generic tuning apps or other Bullshit at GTP are generic crap that generically tune cars to feel and drive the exact same so they can do hot Laps in cars that all somewhat feel and handle the same way and that IMO defeats the nature of Gran Turismo in favor of Arcade style bull shit.


Dampers are tuned to spring stiffness, then tuned on the track.

The damper tuner I've been continuously testing and IMO works very well. Damper tuning can provide a lot of performance in the corners. The dampers are most active during transition points in the corners, this is why its important to first balance them to the spring rates. The Dampers literally can take your spring rates out of the equation if they are too strong, so its important to make sure the dampers are not overpowering the spring rates. During transitions in the corner they work when different corners of the car are apposing each other. The damper tuner works on this principle and uses known real world tuning technique to alter handling for the driver as the driver feels out the car/tune, adjusting as the driver needs. Keep in mind there are different techniques the tuner uses an advanced technique over basic quick method.

Neil Roberts
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Neil Roberts On Damper Tuning
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I may do a write up on a much simpler technique that also uses real world techniques albeit a much quicker style its results are not as refined. It may be useful to establish a baseline tune with the results on page 1 and then use the outcome of that technique on page two to refine, but this is getting complicated.



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Gear Tuner

Video Walkthrough of the Gear Tuner Advanced Techniques coming soon.



The Dyno shows a complete graph. (I would still like to refine it with some trig)

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Calibration & Input Data.
The data you input is your best gears tuned in the game. You can use this page like the in game tuner with more and better details.

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Gear Tuner
Here is where you adjust the gear set to a particular track, adjusting the gears by speed to the corners on the track. You can also adjust the FDG keeping the same gearing.

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Shift Point Tuner
On page 3 is the Shift Point Tuner. Here you calculate when speed/rpm its best to shift at in each gear for best acceleration, and to shift under for best tranny braking.

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I left the input fields open with the tuned gear set from page 2 displayed. This way you can use the tuner quickly without having to redo pages 1 and 2.

The object is to find the crossover point on the chart. The point first crosses second is the best shift point. If they do not cross you shift at rev limit.

Settings Spreadsheet

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All tuning parts are on drop menus, if there are any suggestions let me know.

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Gear Tuner / Damper Tuner / Settings Spreadsheet version 3.0

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All are opened with Excel

Camber Tuner being revised while I improve its applicability and adapt it to data logger input.
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10-10-2014, 07:02 PM #65
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Great to hear.

The gear tuner is complex and is a form of advanced tuning. Unfortunately the gear range is FD and rev limit dependent and at time you need to mess with the FD and max speed slider to get the desired ratio available.

I will put a video together to help people see what it can do and how to use it.

Great to hear the damper tuner is helping.
10-10-2014, 07:27 PM #66
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Thanks. I will play with the fd and speed to get ratios to fit. I am still unsure what i should input into the field named GEAR at the top in between red line and fd.

looking forward to video, keep the good work up Smile
10-10-2014, 07:38 PM #67
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Thats a calibration test, you do a pull to top speed and input the gear then speed at rpm and it uses that to make all the calxulations
10-16-2014, 05:59 AM #68
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Video walkthrough on how to use the gear tuner

& Updated tools to fix small error

They have been added to the OP

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Latest Tool set

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10-16-2014, 08:18 AM #69
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Originally posted by SiNiST3R View Post
Video walkthrough on how to use the gear tuner

& Updated tools to fix small error

They have been added to the OP

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Latest Tool set

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Thanks for this and the other videos on tuning. I have understood much but have been unable to apply what you have been explaining due to lack of time to tinker with gt6. Please keep up your cutting edge work on the game dynamics as it is appreciated by this backyard grease monkey.

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10-25-2014, 07:10 PM #70
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10-29-2014, 04:49 PM #71
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In the works is an upgrade to the damper tool. Working in spring rates and ARB. I want to include camber and toe, but there are both tuned by feel and tire temp/longevity its hard to implement into tool like this.

Camber and toe basically need tweaking for every track, every driver, and every adjustment made. Establishing a base quickly comes from experience feeling out a "feel" set up then smoothing the feel & tire temp/longevity with every change.
10-31-2014, 12:56 AM #72
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Still Beta, this adds in a Spring rate & ARB tuner to the damper tuning tool

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video to show how to use it coming soon, but its not much different from the damper tuning

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10-31-2014, 09:20 PM #73
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