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So let's see if I understand correctly

1. You're not interested in circuit racing and you know nothing about the WRS, but you feel qualified to mock the WRS, the best standardized speed test found anywhere in the GT series. Makes sense.

/sarcasm

2. You clearly don't understand the difference between hating someone, and disagreeing with their opinions. Clearly you and Jack are on the same page with this. Perhaps when you're a little older this will make more sense.

3. Hami and Praiano are loved by their customers because they produce consistently fast tunes that suit their driving style and the way they want to play the game. I thought that was the entire purpose of buying a game is to play it your way.

4. Tune of the week is a popularity contest, it has nothing to do with the speed of the tune. If someone submits your tune and no other tunes are submitted, you win, that's how it works.

5. I have no issue with Replicas, everyone should play the game the way they want to play. But if you wander into a discussion thread, talking about what works and doesn't work in the game and can't back up your assertions with testable settings, it's nothing but talk and you deserve to get run out of the thread as a loudmouth, blowhard, wanna be. As I've said many times, anyone can pretend they have access to code or copy and paste real world tuning theory, or mishmash the two, but it means literally nothing if you can't demonstrate in the game that what you are saying actually works.

6. Both you and Sinister have a fascination with the size of the penises of certain GT members, along with their asses. I should just be clear on the topic before you get the wrong idea, I am not gay, I like girls, and it's not likely to change in the future. Please don't ask for a picture of my penis either. Sorry to disappoint.

GOOD, its usually comes after I got banned at GTP for bullshit a few pages get deleted at GTP, so IT LOOKS like I just rant for no reason, but people here know the truth about GTP Mods deleting evidence of GTP looking bad, full pages of threads deleted to cover shit up...



Maybe so, but it makes me feel better when I vent. I can walk away from the lap top and console and not feel like anything is bothering me at all. Is it the best way to deal with it? Maybe not but t works for me. Most who know me at NGU are aware of this everybody here knows knows me and knows I like to vent in here. Most get a kick out of the dumb shit I say, and I can say some messed up shit. People here know as I said it many times. I say fucked up shit but its a lot tongue in cheek.



Thats cool man, to each his own. I spend much time helping members in this community thats why if you look up at my rep its nothing to snicker at. That rep has not much to do with this thread, while it does help, I get more respect taking time to help people through various problems I also strongly promote a realistic style of hybriding while accepting those who want crazy fast X1's are just people trying to enjoy their game too. I wont build those but I also wont hate on those who do. Ive helped put together custom turbo codes for many many people trying to get realistic power hybrids working well. Ive posted a few tunes but I got over posting tunes for rep in GT4 where I was considered one of the most popular tuners for GT4 and set the LSR record for the game.

Now Im more into learning how the game works in the code to assist my understanding of how GT6 recreates the physics, teaching people how to tune their own cars with real world techniques as THAT is how I LIKE TO PLAY, I play for enjoyment not being the absolute best, I already did that with GT4... I would prefer to use the same techniques in the game that I use on track days, in fact I have a few tuning options in GT6 that I would have to have serious bank to do IRL and I like feeling like the other guy with what seems like all the money in the world while usually my ghetto ass is duct taping shit I broke together so I can get home, fuck just finish the event. NOTHING GTP throws at me can Phaze me, Not a Damn Thing... Im from the Crack Slums of my City, no E Bullshit, I was raised in a Crack House and spent more time in prison or detention centers then free when I was 25 years old. Parents? Father too busy on crack and mother died when I was a Baby. Ive lost more friends to gun shots and murder then I got fingers and toes. I never killed nobody and I worked my way out of that life. I put myself through Mechanic School on a Gov vocational program and work my ass off to build the cars I build and beat them down the track. I've been shot at, stabbed, and Im still here....

I find making a General Tune pointless. Everybody cars will be better if they stop using other people tunes and tune the car themselves.. But its a take it or leave it deal I dont care if people believe me or not, thats on them. There are many ways to set up a race car, I like using real world techniques. If the guy next to me has a fast car with the nose in the air, I giggle at them for needing to put their nose in the air to be fast.

If you notice many times Ill test stuff for others as my testing has been proven correct in the code and has earned respect. Like my Diff testing. Im just testing it works as I would expect it to in the realms of a video game.... I didnt theorize that 60/40/40 would = the 60/60/60 set ups, I never gave it any thought, but I was able to confirm this is the case through testing,its not like I have anything invested in the theory, thats just the facts that came out through testing...


Things Ive figured out through testing being 100% confirmed in the code says a lot, the things GTP have told me Im wrong about Ive been proven right in the code. I didn't need the code to figure out how camber gain works in GT6 even figured out the general amount used on 99% of the cars n the game. I didn't need to see the code to figure out there is a leverage factor applied to the spring rates and the leverage factor is relative to the spring rate range and to each other to be easily balanced. lol nobody needs the code to see caster in GT6, but GTP told me I was wrong about that too. Most folks only accepted the angle the tires get when turning the steering wheel was related to caster after I already said its caster angle doing it, but other had to chime in to say yeah, the wheel angle confirms it and even still dudes like Killerjimbag run on like there is no caster in GT6 ROFLMFAO go to some serious lengths to avoid saying Jack was right. Everything ended up being proven fact in the code though... I know many at GTP must simply be pissed that the one guy with the SpecDB data is Jack, SiNiST3R well my source doesn't want peeps from GTP to have it, if GTP wants to talk SpecDB they have to come here...

1. stupid sarcasm fail. interest had nothing to do with it, i can mock anyone i want on the net, just like those wise ass mock sinister at gtp. wrs is some kind of standarized test and you need qualification to have a word on it, what an arrogant chest beating, dick swinging people of wrs. its a game, and you make it sound like legit real deal stuff like a f1 championship. stupid reasoning, i bet all aliens in wrs are not guaranteed a pole setter at the real track. pointless dick contest. so good in game, bla bla bla

2. no hate ? anyone who have read your post history on gtp can see it clear as day, your a genius in masquerading your words. i can even see that cargoratt hated you for your cheeky wise ass all mighty posts. im going to be over 40 soon, and im just having fun, its good to be young again once in a while, and you are enjoying it too with your posts here to sinister.

3. ham and praino are dickheads, you have no idea what they have wrote to others, I got members there who have shown me their writings that should have revealed their true selves, yes the members there shared others dirty laundry and shit. praino should have been banned with his last few posts on gtp, but he got away scot free. hami is a con artists, he said nice in front and act bad in the background, i know a guy from there who have been a victim of his abuse.

4. popularity contest ? does that mean rido is popular, many like his cars ? you have no idea how it works, dont be a smart ass, ask the moderator who handle it at gtp, many tune are submitted, do you think in a few weeks period only one submitted that someone can win it easily ? what a dumbass answer. i bet you never win any so you have no clue what it takes to win one. not easy as pie, you have to compete with hami and praino, dollhaus, exeter guy and a few more there, and they all popular with LOTS of fans and worshipper.

5. are you addressing sinister or me ? dont talk about that stuff to me, i dont give a damn if you dont agree with other tuners. you want to know what i think about tunes, try rido m3 or elise s1, and you know my answer, its not about number 1, and many are like me, in fact some of gt6 buddies are now having fun with rido cars.
i still dont get it, someone tune cars with more correct stats than what pd made, a lot of work that should have been a paid job by pd, and yet some questions his work like cls dumb reasoning. i think of rido the same as pc modders on games like rfactor and assetto corsa, and if rido works on pc, he will be one hell of a modder, one that can be trusted with the best accurate setup, not just steal car data from one game to another and just slap it together without caring for if the car is accurate in data or how it drives.
he dare to build a car with setup that would be hurt badly by the stupid bug in physics, but he got the guts to go forth, even if the car is slow, he chose everything else over time. i tried his elise s1 replica, damn that car is smooth, and slow, the attention to details would make pd staff cry, his notes is like story in itself, a journey to make the stock flawed elise better from all aspect of realism and accuracy. imagine that kind of work on pc assetto corsa sim mods.
I have rfactor and ac, nasty mod is nasty, i've driven several mod version of one car and not all of them drive the same or not as close as it should be, WTF. if tuner in gtp question those replica guys, they should question all PC sim cars made by the developer and modders, they can be even worse. gotta ask if rido has ac or not.

6. i would kick your head right behind you ear with so much force that you will hit your other side of the head hard on the floor if I am next to you, so you would have brain damage and never walk straight. you know why i can say it, cuz i already did it to a mugger who tried to mug my fiancee by pointing a little knife. your number 6 post already made you like that mugger, people can call me names, but your post is not acceptable. I was in the army, i can take swear words like a wind going by, but i don't take shits from such homo insult.

I have to say Ive had set ups in GT5 stolen by Praiano and passed off as his own. Ive also witnessed Motor City Hammi attack people in PM while acting like a saint in public. HE GOT CAUGHT, talked shit to somebody who lives close enough to him that when they threatened to kick his ass, he called the cops. Now that was some serious Drama at GTP, great for popcorn and sitting back, but it was most interesting in PM...

However The Hammi has been keeping my name out of his mouth and doesn't come around here, neither does Praiano, So Im not going to harp on them anymore unless they do.


JohnnyPencil Dick what do you have, you always rely on what others do in your arguments, (look at Praiano, look at CSLARC, look at Hammi blah blah blah), oh yeah, your what was it a 50 spot in a Seasonal you brag about lolololol you say your an authority? Fucking Joke of the YEAR... I've never seen you do anything but run your mouth demanding everybody prove everything to you because you are incapable of figuring shit out on your own, all you are is a flapping jaw..............

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And yet more focus on my penis. People are starting to talk you know. You must login or register to view this content.

That's a nice opener to get into things. Thank you!



Is this some kind of a challenge? You're really sure what you're just asking for?
I mean, this isn't GTP. Postings won't magically disappear when things are near about getting disclosed.

But now for something completely different that I've noticed (again). Which is far more important!
I've seen your posting:




And I wonder if this is what you're calling a:

?

Something that you are expecting on another forum? Not bound to do so here on NGU?
Well done! Way to go..

Another two faced prime example..

Do I get a discount on anything if I collect more of them?

Testing OdeFiNN Theory 60/60/60 = 60/40/40

Driving No Assist, No ABS G27, I put on the driving line, & automatic transmission, I drove following the driving line commands as best I could, goal not a hot lap, but to run the 2 laps as identical as possible.

Diff Test # 2
NASCAR @ DAYONA
60/60/60 vs 60/40/40


Diff Test # 3
Abarth Bertone BAT (Stage 2 Clutch)
TR Motege & Tsukuba


All data collected so far shows 60/60/60 = 60/40/40 please provide me a scenario to test where one believes there could be a difference between 60/60/60 & 60/40/40 as you can see in the videos all data collected so far shows the 2 set ups yield identical results with no difference in the 2 at all...

Hi SiNiST3R,

Thanks for your replies above re. springs etc.

I have an idea for LSD testing which *might* be able to shed some more light on whether 60/60/60 = 60/40/40 etc.

Though I will say that your videos show that it appears to be locked at all stages of throttle - looks pretty solid to me! In some ways this is weird though, since if the initial torque is 60% lock, building to 100% with throttle application (60+60 = 120 = 100 max, 60 + 40 = 100), it would seem that at low throttle the lock should increase through 61%, 62%.....100% i.e. there should be some difference in wheel rotation at least some of the time. Your test seems to show that 60% initial torque == 100% lock which makes me wonder why PD used 60 as a number?!

I was looking at this cusco guide (real life) a long while ago
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At that point I wasn't sure if accel and decel in GT5 (long while ago!) were absolute locking values or ramp angles. The relevant figures in the cusco guide are Fig 11 and Fig 13.

I wondered if, dependant on power and tyre grip, it might be possible that the LSD reached full lock but at different stages of throttle.

A further test could be done in a straight line with one wheel on track and the other on grass/gravel i.e. low grip. That way there's no chance of different steering => lateral G => load on tyres => available tyre grip being different. The grass wheel should have such poor grip vs the road wheel that it would definitely spin faster if there was any chance to do so.

Cheers,

Bread

At first I wasn't sure if they were ramp angles or % of lock, I was sketchy to comment and had to use high percentages of lock to test that it locked the diff as those ramp angles would of openned it up instead. Its reversed in ramp angles, Higher the number the weaker the lock, a test of 90 accel would open the diff if it was a ramp angle not % of lock. for example a 90/45 in ramp angles would lock only on throttle but open as soon as throttle is released. 90/90 would open the diff completely and there would be no lock at all.

There is zero transition, as soon as you release the throttle instantaneously coasting the INT setting takes over THIS IS BECAUSE THE INT IS SO STIFF, usually we have a super LOW low LOW INT to allow it to offset and activate with accel aand decell where the amount of throttle WILL have an impact on transition, the issue in or test is we are testing higher int than accel and flips the scenerio around completely, at 60 we have a 60% lock, more than if we only had 40% lock on throttle. The INT is locking more than accel so the lock on accel with the 2 will be fully locked, but when coasting 60% allows some wheel speed offset, however 60% is soooooo tight its hard to get any offset without throttle or brake but both of those lock it up, it creates a scenario where its pretty much locked most of the time near impossible to unlock.

Remember this is 60/60/60 vs 60/40/40 theory being the super high INT is canceling out the transitions, the diff is identical in both set ups as to how it performs. The trick in the diff is the accel and decell lower than the INT s pretty much irrelevant with the INT so high.. I originally though there would be some transition variation but the INT so high just doesn't allow it. With an INT of 60 % the % of lock can never be below 60%, it will never see a 40 % to 60 % transition as its blocked from going lower than 60%. For there to be any transition at all we have to go from a locked to unlocked state, but on throttle we are locked, and let off the throttle we are locked with 60% INT because we cant get the 60% to unlock.

Theoretically we would have to coax the 60% INT to UNLOCK before grabbing throttle to have any transition. As with 60% INT its already locked when we grab throttle, the throttle cant lock it up any more than already locked. If so the transition is from how far past 60% lock we were able to get an offset back to locked again. The higher the INT the more difficult it becomes, at 60% its near impossible this is evident in the videos.

HOWEVER if thing were the reversed and the settings were 40/60/60 this would create a much different scenario. Locking more on accel than coasting creating an offset only because the int is low enough to allow one.

Its NOT to trash the guys who use 60/60/60, its just testing theory shows its the same as a 60/40/40 set up, both the ame neither better or worse than the other and essentially both do what they have been used for lock the diff up as locked as one can in GT6 with the limited ranges of adjuster.

Why they limit from 5 to 60 I do not know, I would like 0 to 100% personally lol

I don't know why they go all the way to 10 deg Camber too, PoDi is an odd boy sometimes but at the same time they may have reasons that are not as apparent as it might seem. I try not to think about it too much but work with what we have. Id like a boost controller and air fuel maps but I think Im asking too much lol for a console game. I just could of swore remembered boost controllers at least in GT1 or GT2, been a looong time.

Thanks for your post.