Post: sony update/downgrades
03-09-2011, 03:41 PM #1
jordan1985
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); was readin up about the removal of certain functions from the ps3, and would love to know exactly what has been removed from the software with each so called update? I.E. what functions have we paid for, been taken away from us, and how much we, as payin customers, have not been refunded and re-embursed for our losses?

if anyone has copies of the firmware updates and could make any comparisons to find out what we have lost? if we get these comparisons, then we could make a legal argument that sony has effectively stolen from us, WHETHER PROPERTY IS PHYSICAL OR DIGITAL, IF SOMEONE TAKES IT WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT, THAT IS THEFT! and sony have stolen from millions of us!:hitman:

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jus read the new terms on the latest update, sony are tryin to cover their arses by saying they've taken these functions to protect our security and also altered the terms to allow themselves to access all our data on our systems, surely they may be entitled to alter software to do with the network, but altering my software that has nothin to do with online gameplay or networking, is not on! they take the ****in piss!
if that was apple sayin they were now allowing themselves acces to all your iPhones there would be ****in outrage, but as most ps3's are owned by younger citizens, who generally dont make it their business to know their digital rights, these infringements of basic rights seem to be overlooked, as the ppl affected have no idea it is being done. we are old enough to do something about it though!
we need to raise awareness of what sony is doing to the digital rights of its customers! we are paying top money, for a top console, THAT DOESN'T PERFORM TO THE STANDARD THAT WAS PROMISED OR NOW EVEN HAVE THE SAME CAPABILITIES THAT IT WAS SOLD WITH! i want all the functions of my ps3 back! FOR EXAMPLE; WOULD YOU FORK OUT £100,000 FOR A LAMBORGHINI THAT WAS RESTRICTED TO 80MPH?
of course not
WOULD YOU THEN ALLOW LAMBORGHINI TO REMOVE CERTAIN FUNCTIONS, FROM YOUR PROPERTY, AT THEIR WILL, SUCH AS THE STEREO OR TRACTION CONTROL WITHOUT GIVING YOU MONEY BACK????

BLOODY RIGHT YOU WOULDN'T

SO WHY ARE WE ALLOWING IT WITH OUR CONSOLES????

we need to do something about this but alone we dont stand a chance, together we can make them pay attention, a suit has been filed in the US and the amounts of money that they calculated are at stake, were in the MILLIONS, we have the law on our side too.

LAWS MADE FOR DAYS LIKE THESE WHEN BIG COMPANIES TRY AND SCREW THE CONSUMER!

WE CAN GET OUR MONEY BACK!
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03-20-2011, 01:08 PM #20
El Nomeo
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Originally posted by jordan1985 View Post
Seriously now guys i need help! I dont kow how to make a site, or a petition log so without you guys i cant go any further!!!! Tuts advice or anything is good.

We need to work together for this or they will win this and any future similar cases. :(


I wouldn't bother, Sony are well within their rights with what they are doing. The only way you have a chance is if you didn't select i agree on the PSN T&C's. Or i suppose if you put false details in then technically you didn't agree as those details would not hold up in court.
03-20-2011, 05:55 PM #21
xSlimShadyx
Little One
i don't see a difrence at all LOL
03-23-2011, 06:06 AM #22
Solo.
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Originally posted by Troll View Post
Nice post you've put some real effort into this. :bro:


what font did u use for your name?
03-23-2011, 07:57 AM #23
Kombust
At least I can fight
Arian Black I think, just copy and paste my name into word and it should show you the font :y:
03-25-2011, 02:10 PM #24
jordan1985
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Originally posted by El
I wouldn't bother, Sony are well within their rights with what they are doing. The only way you have a chance is if you didn't select i agree on the PSN T&C's. Or i suppose if you put false details in then technically you didn't agree as those details would not hold up in court.


Y'know its attitudes like yours that allow companies to do this shit, if you dont stand up for your own rights who the **** will?
the point is not with their T&C's. british law does not allow companies to charge for services not recieved or removed.

We're not talkin about sonys rights here, they are international corporate rights, we are talkin about british consumer rights, based on british law, something they have violated. regardless of court proceedings elsewhere in the world, we as british citizens have the right to challenge this and claim our money back.

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Originally posted by xSlimShadyx View Post
i don't see a difrence at all LOL


you wont unless you help me man, we need to get the word out and find a lawyer willin to try it, but most importantly we need a list of brits that want their money back, this will work. it has in the past over pennies not pounds so we stand in good stead.
03-25-2011, 06:02 PM #25
El Nomeo
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Originally posted by jordan1985 View Post
Y'know its attitudes like yours that allow companies to do this shit, if you dont stand up for your own rights who the **** will?
the point is not with their T&C's. british law does not allow companies to charge for services not recieved or removed.

We're not talkin about sonys rights here, they are international corporate rights, we are talkin about british consumer rights, based on british law, something they have violated. regardless of court proceedings elsewhere in the world, we as british citizens have the right to challenge this and claim our money back.

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you wont unless you help me man, we need to get the word out and find a lawyer willin to try it, but most importantly we need a list of brits that want their money back, this will work. it has in the past over pennies not pounds so we stand in good stead.


Yeah, but everything they have removed they have Told you what they are doing and have asked you if you agree or not. don't say they dont because they do. So they are well within there rights.

Trading standards do allow a compensation of a service if it has been removed. Especially if they have told you they are taking it away.

People like you who do not have a clue about business or legislation are the ones that ruin all this, becuase you take the argument completely out of scope by arguing about what you want and how you feel, not about whats within your rights, which is what its all about.

So stop flaming, move out of your parents house and GTFO.
03-26-2011, 07:57 AM #26
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hey does anyone know if it is possible to downgrade 3.60 to 3.55 i didn't think it is but i was just asking anybody if it was
03-29-2011, 09:52 AM #27
jordan1985
I am error
Originally posted by El
Yeah, but everything they have removed they have Told you what they are doing and have asked you if you agree or not. don't say they dont because they do. So they are well within there rights.

Trading standards do allow a compensation of a service if it has been removed. Especially if they have told you they are taking it away.

People like you who do not have a clue about business or legislation are the ones that ruin all this, becuase you take the argument completely out of scope by arguing about what you want and how you feel, not about whats within your rights, which is what its all about.

So stop flaming, move out of your parents house and GTFO.


the point is if you have read the arguments bein placed and not jus skim read mine, you'd see that sony were misleading with the maintenance of the linux systems at the time, thus not making themselves clear about the features. READ the legal sourcing i linked.
british law stands in our favour

you really think i wanna take down sony? did you read the rest of the input, some comments are merely to put perspective to a situation that had not been considered by these people but if you wanna get into the nitty gritty, feel free. i jus want them to stop takin advantage of people, us, you and the best way to draw attenton is to use your literacy to paint a picture that joe public can relate to.

so thanks for the negativity, thanks for the insults, thanks for runnin ya gums before ya read the legal doctrines and thanks for no help whatsoever!
well played:rolleyes:
03-29-2011, 06:42 PM #28
GUESS_HU
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technically they haven't removed anything without your consent... if you accepted the TOS they can do what they want... But i still hate them!

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