Post: Who is Anonymous?
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04-05-2011, 06:55 PM
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RiZ-N
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Please watch the whole video to understand who they are.
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Their plan is to continue attacking Sony until jailbreaking is allowed. They are fighting for GeoHot.
This thread is not meant to be another thread about what is happening now. It is explaining who they are and what they have done.
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04-07-2011, 04:56 PM
#38
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Originally posted by Antagonizer88
There is no kind of attack that they can pull off on Sony that won't affect or inconvenience users of their services. Short of going to Sony HQ and taking people hostage, any "Cyber Terrorism" they pull is going to affect more than just Sony.
They are not standing up for anyone's rights. They're just out to try and be the "big kids" on the block attempting to bully other people to get their way. If they TRULY cared about protecting our rights, why did they wait this long to actually get started? Why not start as soon as the Sony vs Geohot suit started? Why not start once Sony removed OtherOS? Why wait until today?
They don't actually care. They just want people to think they do.
They are not standing up for anyone's rights. They're just out to try and be the "big kids" on the block attempting to bully other people to get their way. If they TRULY cared about protecting our rights, why did they wait this long to actually get started? Why not start as soon as the Sony vs Geohot suit started? Why not start once Sony removed OtherOS? Why wait until today?
They don't actually care. They just want people to think they do.
You are probably right. I think they care. But they care for themselves and not for others.
04-07-2011, 11:29 PM
#39
c01212uqti0n
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Originally posted by Antagonizer88
Cyber-Terrorism has quite a clear definition, and if you look it up, you'll see that they fit that description quite well.
If these "groups" actually cared about the individual, they wouldn't be taking out their frustrations on everyone. If they want to "attack the playstation network", they aren't fighting for me. If they want to attack the official sony website (which thousands use), they aren't fighting for me. Basically, if they attack anything that the public has use of on a daily basis, they are not fighting for us.
These people do not understand the concept of Justice. Their latest upset is that geohot got sued. Big deal. The kid was spreading shit around allowing individuals to hack the various online games (which hurts Sony aswell as developers when people stop utilizing their software).
What people don't understand, is that he wasn't sued for "cracking his own system", he was sued for spreading information and the tools necessary to breach the ToS and cause issues for all these developers and the Sony system.
This "Anonymous" group are just attention-whoring kids, that's all. If they were actually in the right, they'd pursue legal action instead of issuing "cyber threats" while COWERING behind the anonymity that the internet provides.
If these "groups" actually cared about the individual, they wouldn't be taking out their frustrations on everyone. If they want to "attack the playstation network", they aren't fighting for me. If they want to attack the official sony website (which thousands use), they aren't fighting for me. Basically, if they attack anything that the public has use of on a daily basis, they are not fighting for us.
These people do not understand the concept of Justice. Their latest upset is that geohot got sued. Big deal. The kid was spreading shit around allowing individuals to hack the various online games (which hurts Sony aswell as developers when people stop utilizing their software).
What people don't understand, is that he wasn't sued for "cracking his own system", he was sued for spreading information and the tools necessary to breach the ToS and cause issues for all these developers and the Sony system.
This "Anonymous" group are just attention-whoring kids, that's all. If they were actually in the right, they'd pursue legal action instead of issuing "cyber threats" while COWERING behind the anonymity that the internet provides.
Sony is violating the rights of it's users and invading the privacy of individuals. They are breaking the law.... but since they are a huge corporation they can flex their muscle and carry out such acts with the individuals that Sony labeled as violators of their products. No laws were broken... it is not illegal to hack something that you purchased as long as you are not using it for illegal acts such as pirating. It is also not illegal to distribute tools to aid people in hacking their own systems. If that were the case, people who buy automobiles should not be allowed to fix their own vehicles or perform modifications to it like installing better breaks or putting in a better stereo system.
Enter "Anonymous". They understand that Sony is breaking the law and targeting individuals in an effort to control the end user. Sony is also violating several privacy laws of the individual.
Everything is control...control...control! If I buy something I should be able to do whatever I want with it.
"Anonymous" is not a group of terrorist, they are not a malicious mob, they are not a destructive group of individuals. "Anonymous" is a mass of individuals who have quite frankly had enough of the bullsh!t. The more control you place on something... the less control you will end of having.
It's a new era and a new generation of individuals are emerging who will not remain idle and let people be taken advantage of.
04-08-2011, 02:12 AM
#40
Antagonizer88
Bounty hunter
Originally posted by c01212uqti0n
Sony is violating the rights of it's users and invading the privacy of individuals. They are breaking the law.... but since they are a huge corporation they can flex their muscle and carry out such acts with the individuals that Sony labeled as violators of their products. No laws were broken... it is not illegal to hack something that you purchased as long as you are not using it for illegal acts such as pirating. It is also not illegal to distribute tools to aid people in hacking their own systems. If that were the case, people who buy automobiles should not be allowed to fix their own vehicles or perform modifications to it like installing better breaks or putting in a better stereo system.
What laws are Sony breaking? People keep saying that they're breaking the law, but can't say how.
They also are not invading anyone's privacy. If you're referring to the IP Addresses that they subpoenaed, then you should read up on IP Addresses and what they actually show. Without them getting your ISP to give up your information, the only thing Sony gets to know is what ISP you're using and where that ISP is located.
"Hacking" your own system is not illegal. Bypassing Anti-piracy measures however, and distributing the methods to do so is illegal. That is what this lawsuit is about. Sony is not suing him for simply changing things on his own system.
Originally posted by another user
Enter "Anonymous". They understand that Sony is breaking the law and targeting individuals in an effort to control the end user. Sony is also violating several privacy laws of the individual.
Again, this keeps getting said, but nobody can say exactly which law is being violated.
Originally posted by another user
Everything is control...control...control! If I buy something I should be able to do whatever I want with it.
And you can, provided what you want to do is not illegal.
Originally posted by another user
"Anonymous" is not a group of terrorist, they are not a malicious mob, they are not a destructive group of individuals. "Anonymous" is a mass of individuals who have quite frankly had enough of the bullsh!t. The more control you place on something... the less control you will end of having.
DDoSing actually is illegal. Not many script kiddies know this however and do it anyway. And if you look up what defines Cyber Terrorism, the Anonytwats fit right in with that definition.
Originally posted by another user
It's a new era and a new generation of individuals are emerging who will not remain idle and let people be taken advantage of.
This "New generation of individuals" need to grow up a little bit and do a little research on the laws and rights they claim to be protecting. Right now, they're only hurting their own reputation. The reason they stopped the DDoSing on the PSN? They were pissing people off instead of getting the cheers of support they were hoping for.
As I've said, if people genuinely feel cheated and like Sony broke the law, where is this "Class Action" that everyone keeps talking about and threatening?
If Sony is violating privacy laws, why has no action been taken? And don't bother chalking it up to "They're a big corporation", because it takes a lot more than that to get away with breaking many of these proclaimed laws.
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04-08-2011, 04:13 AM
#41
RiZ-N
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Yeah, you are right Antagonizer88. I did not understand many of the laws / rules until I read up on things. There are so many like DDoSing as you said. But when you think about it... it makes sense that it is illegal. It is all reasonable and Sony is doing the right thing. But if Anonymous does decide to "take action" then they will not seem so weak.
04-08-2011, 04:16 AM
#42
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04-08-2011, 10:54 PM
#46
Addictionn
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haha these guys are awsome nothin else to say about it 
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