(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Accused Scammer's NGU Name: Weescotty
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What is the item that was bought/sold/traded? 11 Pairs of Beats and a single pair.

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When did this happen: Started mid-april. Been waiting some time now.

How did you purchase: Via Paypal

How much?: £80.00 + £48.00

Did you;
- Buy? Yes
- Sell?
- Trade?

Have you contacted the scammer?:- Yes, multiple times through private messages.
If yes, What did they say?:- That the refund should be on wednesday. But it's now friday. I've waited a long time now and I just want my money back.

Other comments: If any more proof is needed just hit me up.

It means that paypal think that there is insufficient evidence to show that the items did not arrive this could be due to the fact that our business has successfully delivered over 500 pairs of earphones in the seasonal turnover. This according to paypal means that i am not liable to pay him any money but for the sake of not having my name begrudged i am wanting to refund him when possible.

This is the email from paypal to my legal team:

Dear Kevin Scott,

We recently received a complaint regarding merchandise that was never
received or received significantly not as described. The details of this
transaction are as follows:


Buyer's name: Tyler Nicholson
Buyer's email: [email][email protected][/email]
Transaction I 3CN83816RN*******

Transaction date: 21 Mar 2012
Transaction amount: 48.00 GBP
Invoice I 438
Your transaction I 45362889FN*******
Case number: PP-001-800-480-***



Your Transaction I 45362889FN*******
Buyer's Transaction I 3CN83816RN*******
Invoice I 20


We are contacting you to let you know that we will not be continuing this
investigation because this complaint was filed 45 or more days after the
original transaction date. And there is a serious lack of evidence to
suggest there is any wrong doing in your field.


We are committed to providing our community a safe environment in which to
transact. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, we reserve the right to
close or limit an account in response to excessive complaints received
about failure to send merchandise, non-delivery of services, merchandise
not as described, or problems with merchandise sent.

You do not need to contact PayPal at this time, however, we encourage you
to work directly with the buyer to amicably resolve this matter.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Yours sincerely,
PayPal Protection Services Department

Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
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PPID *****

That was for the £48.00 Pair. Don't worry about that. I'm talking about the £80.00 bundle i never received. That is the money I want back as it was through NGU.

What about the rest of the money?
Tyluuh needs the money ASAP, I know you are probably trying your best but he can't wait forever.

I appreciate this. I've also already said don't worry about the £48. So there's just £80 that I need for the items I never received.
Hopefully we can come to an agreement.

As I have previously stated I have fully complied with this user according to paypal he does not have any case for any of the money, this means that they have found in my faviour and thus I dont have to re pay him, but as the user has purchaced from the site before I class him in good standing order and therefor I wish to refund him anyway. This means that there is no longer a valid case according to paypal in which I believe you as a moderator are in no place to contest with. The dispute is still ongoing but this means that I am under no legal obligation to repay any tender. A dispute will continue to be ongoing until both parties are happy with the final outcome, it is your decision as the manager of this dispute to take into consideration the evidence that has been portrayed by both parties and decide the best route to take with this. You must also take into consideration the information that paypal uk have profoundly illustrated and use you initative to ensure that fair points have been made.

I bet you wont forget this dispute :p

Sorry for any typos im on a phone.

Well you do kinda have to refund because I paid £80 for some headphones which I never received. I purchased on this site NGU and I'm a returning customer. Even if you send it in chunks i'm not too bothered but I just want my money back now as this is ridiculous. As for the whole paypal thing that is kind of bullshit as you told me to send as a gift to avoid seller fees...

i dont think you understand the service that you made the payment though says that you have no case, lets put this in Heinz sight, if i told you to murder someone and you did, i would not be charged for it you would so in this case you are being punished for your decisions weither you where lead to the action that was preformed, if you want to contest paypal's decision take that up with them as i am just abiding by what they say also may i ask you what age you are, its just for legal reasons.

No offence but what you are saying could be done in any scam situation.
E.g.

I sell you a psn account, you go first and I recieve the money and don't give you the account.
Now it's clearI have scammed you.
You dispute on PayPal and it goes in my favour...
So that's it I walk free Because PayPal didn't didn't dispute it in your favour.
It's 100% clear I didn't give you the account but as long as the PayPal dispute goes my way nothing will happen?

That is basically what you are saying.


The fact is he can't prove he doesn't have the doesn't have the item and you can't prove he has them Becuase you didn't do recorded delivery so you are at fault.
Now going down the route stated above is wrong, and you know it.

also the above amount which he disputed was the £48.
What about the remaining £80, seeing as that hasn't been disputed, so you are still liable to repay him the £80.

You have 48hours to issue at least some form of refund. You are not getting off this Becuase PayPal didn't dispute it in his favour.
It's your fault and yours only that you did not do recorded delivery.
You are liable to refund the user.
If you refuse you will be banned.

Yes your very good at resolving things so you are (SARCASM) You see the thing is i doubt that you are in the position to claim that you a moderator on a small site in comparison to PayPal are in any position to contest the decisions of a company that payments are made through, this website merely acts as a portal between the seller and the buyer, there for the fact of the matter is that no money has be interchanged through any part of this site therefor the site has only been used for discussions. I must also give you another example to put it into prospective, if i talk about dealing drugs in asda and then i walk out and go outside the grounds and deal them it has nothing to do with asda the conversation only took place in their grounds and not the transaction. They would have to refer me to a higher source being the Police in which they would deal with the matter accordingly, in this case it is paypal and when they where referred to they found in my favor. I must also illustrate that your ways in dealing with a dispute of this matter lack decision making and thought (No Offence) but if you where to ban me this would mean that there would be no communication between the buyer and me and to be frank thats not very smart. And again i must also ask the user what age is he (this is for legal reasons as im looking to bring this a step further.

Wondoh i have noting against you and you do a good job on the forums and i respect you for that but you have not exactly had this dispute under control, you have been good at prompting answers from both sides but then all of a sudden you are accusing paypal of lying and then holding me liable for not using recorded delivery even though the user knows our company does not send through recorded delivery which is illustrated on our website. Yes i know that a seller has the responsibility of getting a parcel to the buyer, but the buyer aslo has to have the responsibility of using the correct payment methods on the site that he is using as a gateway. Your threat to ban me just sums up as a sign of desperation that you can not take into consideration the evidence that sits infront of you.
As a website you can only pressure members to make a re-payment and they have no legal obligation to do so but you must also remember that the company that has legal obligation to do so says i dont have to so the problem for you is that you have take a side (which is considerably easy to do in any case if you where to put your self in the buyers shoes) but you must also remember that not all sellers are scammers and in fact they are honest. Wondoh thanks for all the help but this is going no where, i must also illustrate again can you pressure this member to reveal his age as it is important in the investigation that i plan to launch in the next week.

Oh and also incase that you can read i am not liable to pay him anything, as he sent the £80 through gift therefor he is liable for his own mistakes.

Thanks
Weescotty