(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Sadly removing stopping power did not balance the game , i feel that they need to look at the core first then add stuff on top.

Weapons classes
ARs (Change hip fire spread, reduce clip size and less starting ammo)
30 to 20 clip
Reduce hip spread so that ARs need to use STEADY AIM no point in that perk for ARs and ARs beat SMGs in hip fire at close range :/
Well two do anywho....two of the fastest fire ones (guess which ones you get a cookie)

SMGs (Bigger clip size and more starting ammo)
20 to 30 clip
Less powerful gun gets less ammo then a AR which has more power :/
Why lol
Does not sound fair to me your forced to use one blue perk to counter this. I would increase the SMGs starting ammo.

LMGs (Keep the same)
Snipers (Remove)

Perks (Maybe the weak part of this post and don't need changing)
Move them around

Group 1
Ghost
Sleight of Hand
Ninja
Hacker
Marathon

Group 2
Hardline
Scavenger
Scout
Warlord
Flak jacket

Group 3
Lightweight
Steady Aim
Hardened
Tactical Mask
Second Chance

Short version
ARs are too strong compared to SMGs due to more ammo and hip fire spread. And the perks need to change so your not 100% off the radar.


If you don't agree with my idea tell me why
And yes this is a little rant >_>

take the game serious much? they only need to change 1 thing TBH, and thats sniper's....they screwed snipers so hard.... but, choosing rapid fire doesnt mean that you have to use a certain perk? thats dumb...and also that i know there are 2 SMG's that have dual mags, ak74u and the mpl. its all about preference dude. its not unbalanced, lets put it this way AR's recenter quicker then SMG's when ADS. but at close range the SMG's have better hip fire accuracy....my second most used gun is a SMG, not my preference anymore but was when the game first came out. its all about PREFERENCE
but you think they need to remove snipers? lol why is that? snipers are shit anyway, why remove them?

Nope i don't take gaming serious if i did
I would play GBs and also feel like crap each time i don't win.
Am only questioning the core of the game , and the gameplay mechanics. And putting forward my view trying to explain what i feel wrong with the game. It far too easy for feedback to say something and not explain the real issue.

As for rapid fire....yes i am
If i want to carry on longer KSs then 3 or 4. Am forced into using scavenger. With rapid fire am burning my limited ammo and already have a small clip. Meaning am forced into using two perks. Scavenger and SOH.
You can get away with not using them perks however some SMGs need them or they are crippled.

Only two SMGs have dual mags and that gives them same ammo as ARs with dual mags. They have lower damage to start with and get less ammo to compared to more powerful ARs
Balanced ?
Along with the fact two ARs have the same rate of fire to the SMGs and a bigger clip.

Your right ARs recentre faster then SMGs , and SMGs have better hip fire but ARs still do more damage close range and puts it out faster. And overall bigger clips
SMGs have better move speeds which is the only plus side to a class.

There is a reason why the low recoil but semi powerful SMGs are used over the others. It because they can just outclass the ARs at mid range and close range.
Spectre
AK47u
MPL

Snipers should be removed because they don't fit into COD and have no role. Tell me the role of snipers in COD none the maps don't suit it and they feel forced.

For the record
8 ARs at 1,000 kills
3 SMGs 1,000 kills
5th most used gun is a SMG
And i have over 650 kills with the other SMGs.

End of the day sadly no reason to use a SMGs. When ARs are overall beat SMGs in almost all cases apart from move speed.

Ghost and Flack Jacket not on same teir? LOL
Ghost, Flack Jacket, and Second Chance Class much? Remove snipers? Why? Too OP? XD

You want Balance?

• Remove Sniper Patch Completely
  
• Remove Second Chance
  
• Remove Flack Jacket
  
• Remove RC-XD
  
• Remove Claymores
  
• Remove Grenade Launchers and All under-barrel attachments
  
• Make Warlord Pro give secondary attackments, not extra nades.
  
• Only Spawn with 1 Flash, or 1 Stun instead of two
  
• Add Sway to Assault Riffles and SMGs
  
• Slow Down G11 Fire Rate
  
• Slow Down Famas Fire Rate and increase Hip Fire spread
  
• Slightly Add Recoil to the AUG
  
• Add Dedicated Servers
  
• Make Footsteps Louder
  
• Make the Hit Detection not Shit.
  
• Add damage to all pistols
  
• Make the python a 2 shot kill across the board
  

ok, as for clip sizes on ARs no clip is smaller than 30(not including FN FAL & M14) with regular clip size, and SMGs i do beleive the smallest clip size is 20. with SMGs the mp5k and ak74u have a 30 round clip(45 w extended mags) and with ARs the galil i beleive has the biggest clip 35(50 with extended mags) now the point, the 2 main used SMGs match up with most ARs in clip size. with this being the truth with every other SMG that doesnt have regular clip size of 30 is crippled....your point proven :y:

as for rapid fire, yes you do need scavenger, if your going for high kill streaks. there is 120 starting bullets in a SMG? thats not just 4-5 kills its about 7-9 if your shots are on point. yes i do agree they should give you more starting ammo with SMG's. but that doesnt mean that they should give you less starting ammo with AR's. your point proven again if you want a terribly high KS at least a 11 killstreak you do need scavenger. :y:

as for snipers, its not forced, snipers were in all previous COD titles. some people just like to snipe(again preference). black ops did manage to nerf snipers so hard that its not likely that you would use a sniper in any situation. the maps are mostly small-medium sized also, not good for sniping.

Galil-14,000 kills
ak74u-13,00 kills
Famas-13-000 kills
i have about 2000 kills with each AR(excluding the AUG, its garbage), but i only have 2000 kills with about 3-4 SMGs
if you rush, you're more than likely going to do it with a SMG, if you're at a distance then weapon of choice AR.

im starting to see what you're saying about SMGs being dominated by ARs......they do need to fix some things. but you know that they wont

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meh forgot the quote

Maybe my perk list was a bit rushed
Am willing to say that perk wise it balanced

The overuse of ghost is a problem but i covered why in reply to another post

As for sniping it feels forced and forced in the COD series for me.



Yea i see your point on the ammo change for ARs
SMGs have like 20/60 if they have a 20 clip.
ARs 120 , 30 and 90

I believe

As for sniping i can agree they bee nerfed to crap along with maps which don't suit it now. Sniping never felt right for me feels too fast for COD. Maybe other people think it not forced but i do lol
Still thank you for replying and seeing my point also the AUG is good

i have yet to play a "balanced" call of duty game,and why would you remove snipers? there are alot more problems than a shitty sniper rifle,the only thing wrong with black ops is that its laggy and broken

I think second chance should be removed entirely. Can't count the amount of hardcore matches I've been in with the entire opposing team using second chance. If they do decide to keep it, it should be unavailable in hard core mode. Hard core isn't hard core when your using second chance.

No, its not balanced too many Agay74u FAMAS, Ghost, and Second chance.

I get this is your opinion and I like some ideas but you seem to base things of YOUR preference. You like SMG so they need bigger clips. You don't like Sniper Rifles so they need to be removed. Maybe AR have more ammo than SMG in real life. I have said lots of times how useless Sniping and Shotguns are in BO. I have changed my tune. Sniping can be effective if:

1. It's a map like Discovery, Array and maybe WMD
2. You aren't some idiot who thinks its MW2 quickscoping
3. You switch to something else if Sniping ain't working.

The maps hinder Sniping and a gun like G11,M16 or FN FAL can pick off snipers. Besides most people are terrible with AR,SMG & LMG so of course they are terrible with Snipers. Snipers belong in COD because they are a fixture of any Army.

I don't see the community crying out for SMG so they won't change. They work well on most maps.