Post: This problem is our fault
12-08-2011, 06:35 AM #1
Montealvo_0
KILL WITHOUT MERCY
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Mw3 has been out for a whole month now, so many gamers were tired and discouraged about Black ops. Or like most of my friends would call it Lag Ops key phrase (lag). Last month we counted the days and were just anxious to get our hands on Call of Duty MW3. My thoughts were Treyarc has always been the B company the second stringers, the big guns are about to come out. Infinity ward the better of the two companies, surely they wont let us down. But think about it Infinity ward is a small fracture of the once dominant and intuative developer.

Dave Zapella and others left Activision, they didn't like the pressure and the pace of the franchise. He felt 2 years isn't long enough to develop a game. Regardless we all buy MW3 and man holy **** that game sure looks familiar. Its almost identical to mw2 and i just spent 100 because i bought the hardened edition. No worries we can't go wrong with MW2.5 yet it has gone wrong in my eyes. Maps are over crowded and spawns are all messed up. Things that with a patch will fix the game, but for the sake of pete our buddy (LAG) is back. Reason being is because, although not released Black ops released Lag conpesation. And now MW3 follows the trend and it's affecting a lot of players who perhaps are paying extra money for good internet solely for gaming. We are being punished for good internet, and their response is they want to make the game as fair as possible. You ask me its a cheap attemp and alternative to not purchasing Dedicated Servers.

The biggest franchise in History and they solely care for themselves. Lag compesation is not the solution and once again as a consumer im unsatisfied and frustated. Mw3 is like Mw2 and nothing new has been brought to the table. Activision is milking the cow and we are the fat cow. Support Killstreaks getting rewarded for playing the objective.Is not a new idea as a matte of fact its a stolen idea from HomeFront. Kill confirmed also not a new game mode Stolen idea from Battlefield also the gun profeciencies stolen from Battlefield. And those two games ironically have dedicated servers. Theater mode is something halo did prior to Black ops and now COD Elite. This concept of checking your stats is a stolen idea from EA games, they do that for Battlefield and Fifa and Madden. Sadly Activision did not learn from Black Ops and right now the main topic and problem is lag. LAG LAG LAG i thought that Infinity Ward would learn from Treyarc Mistakes sadly no.

As consumers we have the right to demand more, problem with Gamers is that we are not unified. Some of you will say theres lag on PS3 cause you guys don't pay like Xbox Live. But the facts are the lag has been affecting both consoles. If we could for once petition and be unified we could make a change. But this is not the case and we just keep buying the game we are getting ****ed year in year out. We need to let the issue known and put them on the spot light, lets not play there game, but most of you will overlook this thread and flame and troll me. And with that mentality we will never get what we deserve...

That is all sincerely,
A dissatified gamer
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12-09-2011, 12:09 AM #20
Thrashher
Who’s Jim Erased?
I haven't even noticed lag, maybe its your connection.. I love the game.
12-09-2011, 12:54 AM #21
Originally posted by Wondoh View Post
Mw3 has only been out 1month and 2 days and if you havnt played it in over a month then how did you reach 1st prestige? in what 1 day? :dumb:


yes its possible to get to 1st in a day if i remember right and thanks to 2xp and split between me and my bro we got there with about 17 hours played i havent played it since though my bro did for abit but ultimately like me got bored with it

EDIT** just read your other post and i respect your views but dont agree with the lag, for me has been terrible im running virgin media too and id put a full clip in someone theyd shoot me twice with same weapon and id die , agree with you about black ops i really enjoyed that and im goin to go back to it when im not playing anything else as you said there were some new elements in it which were interesting whereas mw3 might aswelll have been released as a map pack because essentially thats what it is, agree the marketing is done well but its wrong of them by slapping a £40 price on mw3 and calling it a new game theres nothing new of any great significance from mw2, but people buy it, admit i did too but as i said in my other post wont be pre-ordering again
12-09-2011, 04:21 AM #22
Montealvo_0
KILL WITHOUT MERCY
Originally posted by Wondoh View Post
Right so now I'm home from work il give my view on everything that's been said.

Right firstly I don't see why everyone complains about lag. Or "lag ops" because while I played black ops I never experienced lag, and it makes a lot of the lag people talk about seem over exaggerated such as consoles freezing and stuff, it's obviously gonna be those people who don't have good internet, I have virgin media which is like the best provider (or use to be not sure about now) so I never experienced lag so had no complaints in that Section.
Now on mw3 I never experience the same thing either, the game runs fine for me and I have no issues with lag whatsoever.

I always thought treyarch was second best after WAW which was awful in my opinion and I went back on cod4 as it was that bad. Mw2 then came out and that was a huge step up from WAW. But black ops for
Me was great, zombies was amazing and the multiplayer brought a lot of new things to the call of duty franchise.

Right as for activision milking the cow? Well everyone has said that and still says that yet they still buy it. So what if you don't like it, you still bought it.
Activision is doing everything right when it comes to business. They are one of the most profitable business's in the world thanks to the call of duty franchise. As much as people hate them they have to admire that they have done everything correctly when it comes to getting sales and huge profits.

Everyone was expecting mw3 to be mw2.5 and for some people it was but for me an many others it wasn't really that similar, yes it had some same guns but the gameplay and feel of the game felt new compared to mw2 2 years ago.

The only gameplay issues I have against mw3 is the bad headquarters spawn and the low damage of grenades and flash bangs etc.

Now before any of you shoot me down as a fanboy, I not a fanboy, I play and have played other games such as the assassins creed series (which has to be one of the greatest series ever) and I have given battlefield 3 a go, but it really wasnt my type of game, I'm not that type of gamer, I admit the graphics and gameplay were amazing, but I hate the multiplayer with vehicles. After becoming religious at cod4 that set my play style I have today.
I'm not a fanboy who comes up with pointless arguments to back up the game, I actually think about what I'm writing.

All The people after black ops who said "oh il never buy a cod game again" and "**** gayarch" those people still bought mw3 and will likely buy the next game in the series that treyarch likely have planned fr next year.
They have you and I hooked in and it's doing well for them.

This wasn't aimed at the OP it's just my side of the argument.

Ohh an aimed at the guy who quoted me... Don't call people kid when you don't even know their age /facepalm


I'll call you a kid if i want, although you have some valid points... You played Black ops on X BOX 360. On PS3 screen would turn Black or game would freeze or console and we would have to be reset, this happen to my whole clan and other online PSN friends. Lag was not a problem on X BOX, because when PSN went down i gamed on 360. Black Ops ran better on 360 and we all know activision has to favor Microsoft due to their deal. And i assume your a kid since you have all this free time to be on NGU, an adult works. I'm 23 and i game casually and i speak my mind. And you sounded like a fanboy in my opinion, you are blind regarding activision and defend them with no second thought. Such a fanboy all the fanboys like to get ****ed not me and i dont need to play a game to have a life. With that being said be happy with a half ass game and never getting dedicated servers, since your happy with activion making their money...
12-09-2011, 09:03 AM #23
Wondoh
Former Staff
Originally posted by 0 View Post
I'll call you a kid if i want, although you have some valid points... You played Black ops on X BOX 360. On PS3 screen would turn Black or game would freeze or console and we would have to be reset, this happen to my whole clan and other online PSN friends. Lag was not a problem on X BOX, because when PSN went down i gamed on 360. Black Ops ran better on 360 and we all know activision has to favor Microsoft due to their deal. And i assume your a kid since you have all this free time to be on NGU, an adult works. I'm 23 and i game casually and i speak my mind. And you sounded like a fanboy in my opinion, you are blind regarding activision and defend them with no second thought. Such a fanboy all the fanboys like to get ****ed not me and i dont need to play a game to have a life. With that being said be happy with a half ass game and never getting dedicated servers, since your happy with activion making their money...


I use to have a ps3, and had black ops and barely experienced lag, yes it froze a few times, mainly within the first month. After that is was fine and i carried on playing until I got 15th on ps3 and then got bored on it so brought an Xbox instead. On xbox black ops ran a lot smoother, and I since I didn't have an Xbox when the game was released I can't compare it.

Now with mw3 I still haven't experienced this major lag that everyone seems to be getting, now my connection isnt as good as some people here get but it's still never made me suffer from connection issues. Mw3 has never frozen on me, so there is a step up against black ops within month 1.

Lastly I'm not a kid with tones of free time, defending activision. I'm 18, i have a girlfriend who I regularly see, I also work 3 evenings a week part time as I go to college every weekday. So I barely have free time except maybe a couple afternoons/evenings a week. Just because I'm at college, doesn't mean I'm not an adult.
Im studying business at A2 and just think its clever what activision has done, in business we always talk about business strategies and activision are doing so much right, making huge revenue each year throughout the year, peeking in november. The money they make is huge, and that's exavtly what one of their main aims is.

A fanboy has pointless arguments and don't back themselves up with anything. I honestly enjoy playing call of duty as its easy to play and suits my style of gaming. I don't pointlessly defend them, there are points some people make which I agree with but in my opinion it's still a game I'm enjoying and I'm looking forward to see what the DLC will be.

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12-09-2011, 09:28 AM #24
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
I applaud your beliefs but at the end of the day for most it's just a videogame.

The COD series suffers from overhype and a fanbase that will accept shit or steak if Activison gies it. However if the people enjoy the game why is that such an issue?

COD series also has too many people going the anti establishment,"we shall overcome, **** the system, **** greedy company" hippie route.

The game costs $60 USD just like every other game so I don't know why the $60 USD people pay for this game makes them feel entitled so much.

Playing something you enjoy isn't a fanboy it's common sense. I also enjoy NBA2K12, Uncharted and Heavy Rain. It's amazing how people talk shit about a game then say if you disagree you're a fanboy. Being some guy who is anti whatever is popular troll isn't any better than a fanboy anyway. Me personally, am an OBJECTIVE person who enjoys the game. If I disliked it as much of you claim to, I wouldn't waste $60 on it nor waste time on an NGU section discussing it. Majority of people will still buy the next COD game or at least be curious. It's like the ex that knows their girlfriend aint shit and calls her a whore yet is still waiting on her to come back instead of moving on...

The series has issues and is getting stagnant but for me it's still fun. People paying and playing a VIDEO GAME they enjoy regardless of how greedy the creator may be is fine.

It's the people who pay and play the hell out of a game yet complain year after year that are ****ing annoying. It's a videogame not a Pro Choice vs Pro Life Rally.

The only people that are sad are the ones who continue to pump money into something they don't enjoy....Although some people would find someting to moan about if Rihanna gave them a BJ and a new car....

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12-09-2011, 02:08 PM #25
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12-09-2011, 03:46 PM #26
DeslGltch
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Originally posted by psameht View Post
you fight with your $$$$$$ and all you tards went out and bought the game because you swore it was gonna be the best shit ever happen on earth , even after massive hours of footage from the xp live event , even after when they stated no dedicated servers , even after those players who actually got to go the xp event posted on the interwebs oh how it looked like mw2.5 you guys with jobs went out and bought it an the rest of you asked your parents to buy it , wow billions of dollars in activisions pocket and your at home frustrated every night by campers , maps , lag , etc , there is a giant list of great games this 4th quarter and you tards just want your cod fix for the year. BF3 is 100 times better in everyway , Uncharted 3 , Batman , Fukkking Skyrim . If I made video games and every year you buy the same garbage you think I'm a make the next game better ? NO!!!!! because I know you will buy it regardless just because it has a cod title , no wonder the world is the way it is , too many idiots in this world.


Well said.

Originally posted by dannyrhinos89 View Post
i agree 100% careful though all the fan boys will come out and groan you, cod has pretty much no depth and is pretty much a yawnfest for me the saying if the sheep are willing to follow the shepherd..... comes to mind, personally i havent played mw3 for over a month now and wont be pre-ordering another, anyway totally agree with your point good post thanked and nominated Yes


Word.


I used to be a CoD fanboy. Shit it was like a religion to me. My favorite CoD was CoD3, CoD4 was amazing only because it was COMPLETELY different. Ever since CoD4, it's been down grading. Now, I finally got the courage to preorder BF3. Guess what I had to say about it? IT'S AMAZING! I tried BF2, and I wasn't that interested. But with BF3's brand new engine, everything is perfected. The gameplay is wayyy more realistic. All they need to do is work out all the kinks and bugs. Also, there are other games out there other than CoD! I laugh at kids that buy an Xbox 360 or PS3 just to play CoD... It's hilarious, they waste $300 on a game system that can support 100s of games, but all they get is one... Batman, Uncharted 3, DarkSiders, Dante's Inferno, Condemned, Dead Space, Saints Row, GTA, THE LIST GOES ON!

Basically, I honestly think CoD needs to end its franchise and go down the f**king toilet.
12-09-2011, 04:02 PM #27
Montealvo_0
KILL WITHOUT MERCY
Originally posted by Wondoh View Post
I use to have a ps3, and had black ops and barely experienced lag, yes it froze a few times, mainly within the first month. After that is was fine and i carried on playing until I got 15th on ps3 and then got bored on it so brought an Xbox instead. On xbox black ops ran a lot smoother, and I since I didn't have an Xbox when the game was released I can't compare it.

Now with mw3 I still haven't experienced this major lag that everyone seems to be getting, now my connection isnt as good as some people here get but it's still never made me suffer from connection issues. Mw3 has never frozen on me, so there is a step up against black ops within month 1.

Lastly I'm not a kid with tones of free time, defending activision. I'm 18, i have a girlfriend who I regularly see, I also work 3 evenings a week part time as I go to college every weekday. So I barely have free time except maybe a couple afternoons/evenings a week. Just because I'm at college, doesn't mean I'm not an adult.
Im studying business at A2 and just think its clever what activision has done, in business we always talk about business strategies and activision are doing so much right, making huge revenue each year throughout the year, peeking in november. The money they make is huge, and that's exavtly what one of their main aims is.

A fanboy has pointless arguments and don't back themselves up with anything. I honestly enjoy playing call of duty as its easy to play and suits my style of gaming. I don't pointlessly defend them, there are points some people make which I agree with but in my opinion it's still a game I'm enjoying and I'm looking forward to see what the DLC will be.


Because your in college doesn't make you an adult, your taking a step towards that, i too went to college the University of Houston, Computer science and simply i'm just stating this company is greedy and i don't praise them. You stated as a company they have made record breaking profits, because of all the fan base they have. Yet Smaller companies with less profits and sucess have given their small fan base dedicated servers. Activision not once has made an attempt to do something for the fans, they only care about their money. Regardless we are entitled to our opinions that is all

---------- Post added at 10:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:57 AM ----------

One more note i'm running a wired connection and my internet is 24mb download and 3 Upload Ping is like 50
I'm host 60% of the time and i lag so i don't think i have a bad connection... prior to this i had 30 mb download and 6mb upload with comcast and still lag
12-09-2011, 05:19 PM #28
Originally posted by Justice View Post


The game costs $60 USD just like every other game so I don't know why the $60 USD people pay for this game makes them feel entitled so much.

Although some people would find someting to moan about if Rihanna gave them a BJ and a new car....


they feel entitled because when paying £40/$60 for a so called NEW game i dont want it to feel like a large map pack extension from mw2 like it does anyone who says different are kidding thereselves
mw3 should have been £20 at most as dlc for mw2 its a disgrace they can develop it for so long and call it a new game whereas if you buy another game it will be different for example the GTA series different characters, stories

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