Post: U.S. Army Accused Of 'Video Game'-Like Behavior In Disturbing Leaked Iraq War Video
04-06-2010, 08:24 AM #1
Caspa
Retired Mod
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Investigative organization WikiLeaks released classified U.S. military video today showing the killing of more than a dozen Iraqis, including two Reuters employees, with a spokesperson for the whistle-blower group slamming the soldiers involved for their "video game" like behavior.

That video, which is incredibly disturbing and graphic, shows a group of Iraqis walking the streets of New Baghdad, identified as armed "insurgents" by military personnel. The group, which reportedly included Reuters photojournalist Namir Noor-Eldeen and assistant Saeed Chmagh, is gunned down by a pair of Apache attack helicopters. Later, a minivan that appears to come to the assistance of the wounded is fired upon.

Australian journalist and WikiLeaks advisory board member Julian Assange released the video at the National Press Club in Washington. "The behavior of the pilots is like they're playing a video game," said Assange, according to a report from Fox News. "It's like they want to get high-scores in that computer game."


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04-06-2010, 09:38 PM #47
Man Dime
▶ ♥ Bieber Fever ♥ ◀
I would have attacked those group of people as well, seeing the guy peak around the corner at the beginning with the RPG would personally give it away that they are doing something fishy. I mean its not everyday some is around a corner of a building with an RPG
04-06-2010, 09:58 PM #48
Now he only he needs a couple more for a nuke Happy
04-06-2010, 10:14 PM #49
Fierceknucks
Former Staff
No one really knows the facts about this. News from Baghdad is always spun and corrupted before it gets out of the country. Whenever stuff like this happens, they always throw in "oh and two children were wounded... just so you know"

The first guy, DID have an RPG, and was cutting the corner watching the chopper, I have to believe thats scary when you're in one.

Also, you can't take chances over there. As for the whole "video game" bullshit, that doesn't even get a response, that's just childish.
04-06-2010, 10:26 PM #50
that is trully a LOL moment.. not at the people dieing but the americans

americans wonder why the middle easy afganistan iraq iran ect all hate them

shit like that is why they hate you
04-06-2010, 10:28 PM #51
Reaper
The Grim Reaper
Teabag the guy with the rpg lol.... Great post and it does look like crossfire at 6:25...
04-06-2010, 10:42 PM #52
In my opinion, both parties should have used better judgement.

Argument A: The soldiers in that apache should have used better judgement in being able to tell those people were not holding AK-47's and RPG's, and the way they were so proud of themselves for shooting these people definitely wasn't right.

Argument B: The people on the ground could have definitely used better judgement as well. If I was a photographer, the middle of a war zone definitely wouldn't have been my first choice of job locations, I'm pretty sure there's a reason they evacuate places like that and try to keep people out. Another thing is, as for the people driving the black van, why would you go pick up bodies in moms minivan after something like that? That's up to the military, not you, and why would you bring children in doing so? I definitely wouldn't want my children seeing me drag dead bodies into my van. You have to think about the soldiers situation, they're sent out there to get rid of any potential threat they see on the ground, and a group of people standing around like that definitely could pose a potential threat, you don't know what these people are capable of or what their intentions are. They shouldn't have been there in the first place.

In the end I don't think either party really wins this one, but the blame shouldn't be placed 100% on the soldiers either. Casualties of war are not uncommon in wars, obviously. It's a shame but it happens.

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04-06-2010, 11:28 PM #53
ikliiu
Bounty hunter
Originally posted by O View Post
Exactly. We shouldn't be blaming the solders for this, because one of our soldiers lives are worth a 100 times more than one of theirs. Civilian casualties are going to happen in war.


Just because we live in a developed nation doesn't mean that our lives are more important than theirs. Sure, we benefit the world more than them but it doesn't mean we should think of us as superior. For example, if 1 person dies in our society, it would be in the news. But many people die in less developed nations and barely get mentioned. After all, we are all just human beings.
04-06-2010, 11:29 PM #54
xinfectedsoulx
Daddy's home.
I think the "video game behavior" is the fact that they are like "****ing prick", "Puck up that weapon" "right through the windscreen", you know, like you would be when playing a war game. You're like "Come on, I got a headshot on a guy and he flew half a mile, hahaha" or whatever you say that makes you seem 'proud'. The fact that they are saying it over real people is a weird way to act. Yeah, I know soldiers see the deaths of friends, seeing people being blown up, but still. Also the fact when he injured the child he was like "That's what you get for bringing a child to a battle" or whatever it was. Kind of heartless considering it is a child, who has no say in where they go.
As for the shooting itself, you have to think what would happen if you were in that situation. One guy DID have an RPG and one guy DID have a gun. I don't see the shot's fired though. I think that at the most they should have surveyed them. See what they were doing, what they are up to, who had guns and who didn't. Not all of them did. Just before he opened fire, you could clearly see that Saaed didn't have a weapon. The shape was nothing weapon like at all and I clearly saw it, but it was too late. If they watched them a little longer they could have seen their intentions. Maybe see that 2/3 were photographers. With the shots fired, it looked like they jumped the gun to start shooting. I didn't see no shots, I saw something aiming at the floor.
04-06-2010, 11:42 PM #55
RICHIE209
March 6, 2011.
I agree with infected, the only reason it's considered video game like is because they were proud they took out terrorists, what a horrible thing /sarcasm.

I'm glad these terrorist pricks were killed and that one had to die slowly. **** him, his unstable government and his terrorist buddies. We are in Iraq to free Iraq "Hence OPERATION:IRAQI FREEDOM" Every soldier in that mission deserves a medal. They saved a lot of lives of not only civilians, but possibly fellow soldiers. They should be glad and willing to kill more. The fajis obviously had weapons and intent to cause damage. Everything in that video was up to ROE standards and up to par with the Geneva convention. Good kills. And comparing war to a video game is an insult to soldiers.

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